the thing has more fighting ability and they are equal in strength, the only advantage colossus has is in durability. The only universe colossus has more fighting ability than the thing in is in Ultimate, but we are not talking about ultimate in this thread, were talking about mainstream 616. by the way the thing is smarter too and has more experience.
Originally posted by armandovalles
the thing has more fighting ability and they are equal in strength, the only advantage colossus has is in durability. The only universe colossus has more fighting ability than the thing in is in Ultimate, but we are not talking about ultimate in this thread, were talking about mainstream 616. by the way the thing is smarter too and has more experience.
equal in strength? no, colossus is stronger...
colossus is faster, more agile...
and he is a lot more likely to use his brain than thing, and is a better fighter due to his being smarter... and thats 616...
the thing also has moved up to class 100, and they are the same strength, colossus may be faster, but not more agile, and the thing, FOR THE LAST TIME, IS THE BETTER FIGHTER! plus the thing, now that i think about it, is more durable. He proved he is more durable by taking 3 punches from Juggy b4 getting knocked out, while Colossus got knocked out on the first punch Juggy landed.
Originally posted by armandovalles
the thing also has moved up to class 100, and they are the same strength, colossus may be faster, but not more agile
he is more agile... in his metal form he keeps all his agility he has as a human...
and the thing, FOR THE LAST TIME, IS THE BETTER FIGHTER!
and your proof is what? his brawling?
plus the thing, now that i think about it, is more durable. He proved he is more durable by taking 3 punches from Juggy b4 getting knocked out, while Colossus got knocked out on the first punch Juggy landed.
how long ago was that? its common knowledge that colossus in his current form is more durable than thing...
and again it comes down to popularity... the same kind of thing that lets wolverine beat namor...
i dont care anymore, im no longer posting as much on this thread cuz i very much dislike anyone such as yourselves who actually like to argue. Everything i say is usually true, im not biased, but someone always has something bad to say about everything i say for some unknown reason to me. So im not gonna post as much anymore.
Originally posted by armandovalles
i dont care anymore, im no longer posting as much on this thread cuz i very much dislike anyone such as yourselves who actually like to argue. Everything i say is usually true, im not biased, but someone always has something bad to say about everything i say for some unknown reason to me. So im not gonna post as much anymore.
that bs...
you think everything you say is fact?
Originally posted by armandovalles
no, but im just saying that im not always wrong, i mean, everyone always says im wrong when im not.
no, people are just disagreeing with you, it happens because we all have different opinions...
i believe colossus would win, you believe thing would win... its a debate, nothing more...
Originally posted by armandovalles
no i realize that, but it gets annoying when people say things like "dude, what r u on, colossus is way stronger!", i hate when people say things like that. I would have no problem if people could just say "actually, colossus is way stronger."
i see your point... and i apologise if i seemed insulting in any way...
colossus doesn't just retain his human agility, it actually increases. same thing with his speed.
colossus is stronger, more durable,a BETTER TRAINED fighter (not saying better fighter, for fear of being lit on fire), faster, more agile...
thing is more experience, has more heart (though colossus has a ton himself), and might be a better fighter.
i'd say after a good fight, colossus would take it home without any significant trouble.
Originally posted by Wynndar
but concerning who would win in a fight, colosss is in no way on the same level of fighting as the thing, even if wolverine gives him a few lessons...Wolverine and human Ben Grimm fought in the army together...like his bio says, he was a great fighter even before he became the thing..does anyone remember when champion wanted to fight all the great heroes from earth...Thor and the Hulk were disqualified, Thor because he couldnt be separated from Mjolnir and Hulk because he was a raging brute...however....most all the big named strong guys fought him....colossus got trashed though...although he lasted longer than almost everyone else (everyone but one guy)...he was all bruised up and appeared to even be bleeding if my memory is right?...ya bruised up steel...he couldnt even defend himself at all from Champion's punches...so who was able to go toe to toe the longest?...The Thing, even though he was eventual all bruised and bleeding too...this fight went for a very long time and the Thing never quit...colossus has put up a fight against Gladiator, but was knocked out...The Gladiator took the thing by surprise too and punched him through about 40 cars...threw him through the baxter building....and then hit him with a bus...knocking him out...but he was back and at full strength in about 5 minutes, punching the bus far into the air with one arm...then he fought a colossus doppleganger...a skrull imposter who was supposed to be tougher than the real colossus...he hit Captain America in the shield and Cap went flying....the thing was beating him, but when he found out he was a skrull he no longer held back and totally demolished him...how about the Hulk? has colossus ever been able to go toe to toe with him...Colossus has fared very well against the juggernaut i will say that...the Juggernaut downed the thing in 3 blows in the secret wars II...but i think this was just horendous writing...regardless, present day thing and present day colossus are a lot stronger than they used to be and I think they would be a very good fight if colossus ever comes back to life...but i would still honestly give it to the Thing for being a far better fighter and basically the toughest most strong of will fighter in Marvel
None of the Colossus supporters can back anything up...basically, u like colossus, u think he looks cool, uve been reading X-men for years, and now that Colossus is back ur really hyped. But none of this supports why Colossus would beat the Thing. Stop saying Colossus can beat the Thing...just say u LIKE Colossus better, cuz thats what this is about.
Alright, it's things like that piss me off. Don't just assume that people are voting for certain characters just because they "like him"/"think he's dreamy/cool", whatever. We are supporting Colossus just as much as the Thing supporters are supporting Thing. I can assume that you like Thing more, so you're going for him. DUH. If you feel that you can back up your claims, then the art of arguing is still alive! It's just a debate, there will be two sides. Without two sides, there would be no debate, and then there would be no "comic vs" forum.
Relax, dude.
There is very good, very equal support from both sides. From fans, yes. But also from people who actually know what they're talking about, since they know the character so well.
Look. I like the Thing. I think he's one of the best characters there is.
But Colossus is, in fact, slightl stronger, which could prove to work in his favor.
And yes, believe it. Colossus is FASTER and more AGILE than the Thing. Like previously, Colossus gains speed, agility, AND endurance when transformed.
And don't say he is just a bit more durable. Colossus can withstand temperatures up to 12,000 degrees farhenheit and down to just 70 degrees above absolutle zero. That is a huge gap. Thing does not share the same statistics. Colossus is virtually invunlerable, as proven many times in the comics. Thing is also quite durable, but not nearly to the same extent.
Colossus takes this fight in a very long and drawn out battle.
u did it again...made a ton of statements with nothing to back it up...I do agree Colossus can withstand greater temperatures, however it has been demonstrated over and over again that in a fight with fists, the Thing can take more than almost anyone. Why is colossus faster or more agile? the Thing did not lose dexterity or agility after his transformation. Who has Colossus fought on his own? Ord? The Thing has a much better resume. Colossus is not more durable in a fist fight. When Colossus fought the Champion he still had those same heat resistant stats, however, he was left senseless after one punch by Champion. Thing wins...rather easily too, just as he stated when the Skrull imposter Colossus kept going longer than Thing thought Colossus could go. This wasnt a coincident, this is the way Thing figured out that the Skrull was an imposter.
Tempature gauges off...
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Alright, it's things like that piss me off. Don't just assume that people are voting for certain characters just because they "like him"/"think he's dreamy/cool", whatever. We are supporting Colossus just as much as the Thing supporters are supporting Thing. I can assume that you like Thing more, so you're going for him. DUH. If you feel that you can back up your claims, then the art of arguing is still alive! It's just a debate, there will be two sides. Without two sides, there would be no debate, and then there would be no "comic vs" forum.Relax, dude.
There is very good, very equal support from both sides. From fans, yes. But also from people who actually know what they're talking about, since they know the character so well.
Look. I like the Thing. I think he's one of the best characters there is.
But Colossus is, in fact, slightl stronger, which could prove to work in his favor.
And yes, believe it. Colossus is FASTER and more AGILE than the Thing. Like previously, Colossus gains speed, agility, AND endurance when transformed.
And don't say he is just a bit more durable. Colossus can withstand temperatures up to 12,000 degrees farhenheit and down to just 70 degrees above absolutle zero. That is a huge gap. Thing does not share the same statistics. Colossus is virtually invunlerable, as proven many times in the comics. Thing is also quite durable, but not nearly to the same extent.
Colossus takes this fight in a very long and drawn out battle.
😎 That would make a difference if they were fighting someone that is using the elements as a weapon. But they aren't, they are fighting each other. No weapons other than what they can find during the tussle.
So how hot or how cold they can physically stand matters not.
It's about taking and dishing out a beating. Colossus is out of his league IMO. 😎
THING wins.
Originally posted by Wynndar
uThing wins...rather easily too, just as he stated when the Skrull imposter Colossus kept going longer than Thing thought Colossus could go. This wasnt a coincident, this is the way Thing figured out that the Skrull was an imposter.
Besides, Colossus is stronger, has as much as heart as Thing, is more durable and the slight difference in fighting skills won't make much difference.
Colossus has the better cards. That's why he should win.