I agree with everything you said except that humans evolved from apes. I know it's possible, I'm just not buying it yet. I believe we probably share a common ancestor and we did in fact evolve, just not from apes. Even though there are a lot of similarities, there are a lot of differences as well which are much more than just appearance. I'm just not willing to accept it as a fact until there is convincing evidence.
Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I agree with everything you said except that humans evolved from apes. I know it's possible, I'm just not buying it yet. I believe we probably share a common ancestor and we did in fact evolve, just not from apes. Even though there are a lot of similarities, there are a lot of differences as well which are much more than just appearance. I'm just not willing to accept it as a fact until there is convincing evidence.
To each his own. It's understandable that you would need more proof, any scientist(or just person for that matter) would be stupid not to ask questions until they were fully satisfied with the answer.
At least you don't think we were made out of clay 😖
I don't keep bringing up the teeth issue. It came up again, because somebody was referring to one of my old posts. Again, I told you that there are different sizes of humans...midgets, short people, tall people, skinney people, fat people...that doesn't mean that we were all fat once, or that we were all midgets once...it means there are differences in genetics, and diseases and disorders that affect things...and you still never replied back to me on that one...in fact, you have ignored me on that point about three times...I don't care what your websites say...obviously they are trying to prove your point...Scientists constantly bring up new theories and things they think are fact until they are later proven wrong...now they are trying to say the T-Rex was a leaf eater, when before there was no question that it was a meat eater...Your websites give NO proof to what they are saying...they just say that they evolved, blah blah blah...etc, etc...well, where is their proof? How can they tell from fossils when and where they came from and that they slowly evolved...when they are looking at fossils? I told someone awhile back, that when I think Mount Saint Helens erupted, the lava destroyed things nearby, and fried a tree...when scientists examined it...it said the tree dated back tons of thousands of years ago, when really it hadn't...you can't tell from fossils how old they are...So again, the fossils they found can be from anytime...there is no proof to it...thus it is simply a theory...and a dumb one at that.
"Ok, wow. I just sent you a website listing EVERY genus of horse ever, and you're still arguing about teeth?"
Ok, let me address that topic directly, because I was trying to answer your other 50 arguments, I skipped over one. Sue me. I didn't ignore it, just didn't get to it.
YOU DON'T HAVE A POINT THERE. You're basically saying that just because fat people today exist, doesn't mean we are all fat. Yes? So? What's your point? What does that have to do with eohippus and the other pre-evolved horses? State it clearly please, so I can refute.
WHERE did you get that they are trying to prove T-Rex was a leaf eater!? You are GRAVELY misinformed. They're trying to find our if he was a scavenger or an actual predator.
About the stupid volcano thing: It was a VOLACNO! Do you think every bone on the planet has been covered in lava!? Wow, one mistake and you pounce on it like it will get you somewhere. The stupid tree doesn't mean anything, because of the circumstances. It was covered in lava, which is super-heated rock from the center of ther earth. The age they found wasn't the tree's age, it was the rock's age. So yes, it does work.
Why don't you actually look for yourself? Why don't you sign up for an archeology class, and then discover for yourself how they do it? You seem to think we know everything. No, we just try to find answers when we have questions, unlike you, who sits back while a preacher quotes from the Bible, and tell everyone else to find proof for you.
Chill dude. I didn't know you didn't see it three times. I didnt' say that just because fat people live today that people must all have been fat a long time ago...you missed my point...You have to listen to ALL of what I said...We have MIDGETS, SMALL PEOPLE, TALL PEOPLE, EXTREMELY TALL PEOPLE, FAT PEOPLE, SKINNEY PEOPLE...but that's not to say that we all evolved from say, midgets into tall people in that order...there have ALWAYS been VARITIES of types...DISEASES that affect things...and DEFECTED animals and humans... Some scientists have claimed that the T-Rex was really in fact a leaf eater and not a meat eater...I read it somewhere because I remember thinking yeah right! I'll find the article. I wasn't trying to prove that volcanos covered the earth in lava...just that fossils cannot prove how old something is...that was the point...which you again missed. Hey, there are some Christian archeologists and scientists...And actually, I don't go to church and listen to only what my pastor tells me. I was very interested in dinosaurs as a kid...You make it sound like I just listen to my pastor...well, what are you doing? Your not actually going out and searching for evidence? Your listening to what they say too...so don't be a hypocrite and contradict yourself there dude.
"Ok, let me address that topic directly, because I was trying to answer your other 50 arguments, I skipped over one. Sue me. I didn't ignore it, just didn't get to it.
YOU DON'T HAVE A POINT THERE. You're basically saying that just because fat people today exist, doesn't mean we are all fat. Yes? So? What's your point? What does that have to do with eohippus and the other pre-evolved horses? State it clearly please, so I can refute.
WHERE did you get that they are trying to prove T-Rex was a leaf eater!? You are GRAVELY misinformed. They're trying to find our if he was a scavenger or an actual predator.
About the stupid volcano thing: It was a VOLACNO! Do you think every bone on the planet has been covered in lava!? Wow, one mistake and you pounce on it like it will get you somewhere. The stupid tree doesn't mean anything, because of the circumstances. It was covered in lava, which is super-heated rock from the center of ther earth. The age they found wasn't the tree's age, it was the rock's age. So yes, it does work.
Why don't you actually look for yourself? Why don't you sign up for an archeology class, and then discover for yourself how they do it? You seem to think we know everything. No, we just try to find answers when we have questions, unlike you, who sits back while a preacher quotes from the Bible, and tell everyone else to find proof for you."
Originally posted by hunchy
Chill dude. I didn't know you didn't see it three times. I didnt' say that just because fat people live today that people must all have been fat a long time ago...you missed my point...You have to listen to ALL of what I said...We have MIDGETS, SMALL PEOPLE, TALL PEOPLE, EXTREMELY TALL PEOPLE, FAT PEOPLE, SKINNEY PEOPLE...but that's not to say that we all evolved from say, midgets into tall people in that order...there have ALWAYS been VARITIES of types...DISEASES that affect things...and DEFECTED animals and humans... Some scientists have claimed that the T-Rex was really in fact a leaf eater and not a meat eater...I read it somewhere because I remember thinking yeah right! I'll find the article. I wasn't trying to prove that volcanos covered the earth in lava...just that fossils cannot prove how old something is...that was the point...which you again missed. Hey, there are some Christian archeologists and scientists...And actually, I don't go to church and listen to only what my pastor tells me. I was very interested in dinosaurs as a kid...You make it sound like I just listen to my pastor...well, what are you doing? Your not actually going out and searching for evidence? Your listening to what they say too...so don't be a hypocrite and contradict yourself there dude.
Haha, call me a hypocrite. I actually get off my ass and look for answers. You wouldn't know that, would you? Right now I'm in Advanced Placement Biology, and I'm going to take Physics and Biology in college. We do experiments and laborotory reports, so we can see the evidence for ourselves. There you go again, making ignorant assumptions.
Fossils DO prove how old something is. Carbon dating and other methods of dating on the bones of fossils give us the fossil's age.
Yes, there are "varieties of types", what you don't get is that I'm saying that it was a different "type" of horse. Not a variety. There were fat and midget and tall eohippuses. I'm not disputing that. How do I know? I've looked over the evidence of scientists and researchers. DNA testing also proves how the two are different.
You are thinking that the Eohippus is just a smaller horse...it isn't. It's a different animal.
I noticed you basically ignored how I ripped apart that little website you posted...have yet to see you do the same thing to one of mine.
I want to see this article on the T-Rex. Made by a creationist I suppose. No scientist on earth with half a brain would think that shrp pointy 8-inch teeth were made for leaves.
The Universe began 13,7 BILLION years ago. That’s 13 700 million years. The Solar-system and hence Earth didn’t start until 4,5 billion years ago.
And the earliest traces of life the geologists and biologists have found are some 3,8 billion years old. An homo sapiens? A couple of million years old.
So even with the idea of trying to make a Biblical day into millions of years (WHY, one would ask – did God have so little faith in mankind’s ability to grasp big numbers?) there’s something lacking.
Okay, so let’s divide 13,7 billion with seven… 1,95 billion years should be a biblical day.
So BANG – Universe begins –
Then 1,95 years later
1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Kinda odd that God spends an entire day on creating a firmament.
We just have one problem. 11,75 billion years ago there WAS no earthly waters, the Earth wasn’t even there yet
1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
Oy! We’re now in the day3/year 3,9 after Big Bang, 9,8 billion years ago. The Earth STILL wasn’t formed yet, not even the nebula out of which the Solar System arose had gathered. But heck… The earth brings forth plants. There’s no sun to drive the photosynthesis, not in real life and not in the Bible either.
Day four: 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
NOW, the stars the moon and the sun is created. This is supposedly 5,85 billion years after Big Bang, 7,85 billion years ago (STILL no Solar-system, but well…). And God places stars on the firmament – but why then are only a fraction of the stars visible from Earth? And he puts them there “for signs”? That’s astrology, reading signs in the heavens. Does the Bible condemn or accept astrology?
Day five: 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
Life! 7,8 billion years after Big Bang, 5,9 billion years ago God asks waters to bring forth marine life. No Earth yet… but well.
And so on an so forth… It doesn’t add up. No matter WHAT religious people do…
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SURPRISE!
About T-rex: I did a couple of articles on that for work in spring.
No – T-rex was NOT a leaf-eater nor was it a scavenger. Horner got it ALL wrong. He’ misses the VITAL point of evolution, that T-rex, along with many other Cretaceous dinosaurs were EVOLVING (into birds).
T-rex would not let a carcass just lie there, if it passed. A free meal – hoorah! But it was definitely a hunter!
I’ll dig up the interview with a paeleo-zoologist who’re an expert on the topic an translate it, should any moron claim T-rex ate leaves.