On the topic of evolution, it is a founded scientific theory. Meaning all that the theory is remains yet to be discovered. That is why I state that more information is still needed. That is where all confusion resides.
Religion is beyond the theory of Evolution. Religion was a birth place for evolution. Evolution was an idea, and now it has become scientific research.
A good thing we have scientists and priests or there would be no knowledge and understanding of our world.
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
It's the actual bible, with notes. It displays the good parts, and the not so good parts. There are far more bad parts than good parts.
God didn't just create humans, he created evil. That's basically worse than anything Satan can ever do.
what the ... ?? I'm off after a long night and nuts come here without me knowing??? that's it!
*claws come out*
kingcoot > yeah, there are holes but scientists try to patch those, that is still a LOT better than creatists who say "it's in the bible" and will never change it ... as they still yet have to realise the worls is NOT a square in example.
and I don't need priests for their "knowledge and understanding of our world" because they simply don't have it if they stick to a fairytale.
hunchy > go to the link Arachnoidfreak provided, it will show how many errors, continuity problems and hate there is in the bible
Originally posted by hunchy
That site is full of crap. It has misquotes, it suggests things that the quotes say, but if you look at the passages they continue on to disprove what the site was trying to prove. Yes, there was some harsh laws back then...but the bible full of hate...I don't think so.
Really?
The site is actually wrong, this is what Moses said:
Num. 31:15
Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Wow, Moses must really have had to hate these people to command his army to kill them all, and sleep with the virgins. Clearly these are both violations of the Ten Commandments. Those guys are going to Hell... Oops 😐
And yes, skepticsannotated.com is a much better site than the other one.
For one, Moses isn't Jesus, for two, Are you sure he did? Moses was said to have lived 900 years too. Physically that is an impossibility especially without the use of medicine. Carbon based mammals can't exceed 120 or 150 years. Seriously that doesn't change or evolve no matter how good the carbon based creature is given care.
What I mean is, maybe time was kept by full moons... then moses was 75 or so.
So maybe Killing people back then was giving them all circumcisions. Moses is the Beginning of Judaism.
I don't know how you would circumcise a girl... I haven't figured that part out yet.
Maybe that was to prevent aids... did the infected boys and girls all die?
Chromosomes decide your basic features sex and mind usage, and DNA decides many physical features including color, shape, and immunity (has to do with chromosomes too) to some diseases and not to others.
Evolution happens over millions of years... like 1,000's of millions. Over time, the proteins have combined in a way that creates an asexual being that split into separate sexes if those are the creatures that survive. Everything that exists depends on if it will survive. Everything exists the way it is, all species, because it can survive how it is. That is simply how it works. And throw in millions and millions of years, you get quite a combination of evolutions.
I don't think something such as number of chromosomes matter, since mentally hadicapped are down syndromed.... and they die out sometimes, that is why not many are handicapped.
The worlds plants and animals branch out with chromosome and DNA types because of their environment. Only the right chromosome type and number will survive in their environment.
The Big bang happened, but those who wrote the bible only had knowledge of their time. So they could only see a small part of time (1000s of years) Now we do know the Earth is Billions of years old.
A day for God in the bible could be 10 or 100 million years. That satisfies me. Makes sense. Because that is how long it would take in the Big Bang theory (if true) to have all the "light" scatter across space.
kingcoot > if the bible says moses is 900 year, then that is the truth, cause you gotta take it all literal, right?
and yes you can circumcise girls, it's one of the biggest causes of death in ...Ehtopia I think?
Lask > I can't, but our local scientist TO will gladly help you out, don't think that you can "destroy" a theory that has been going on for a while and constant gets refined
... and read kingcoots one in the mean time 😉
FB > if the big bang is when god spoke, why isn't it in the bible?
have you read DR's post? saying WHAT A THEORY REALLY IS?
it has still MUCH more proof than what creationsts have: one old fairytale-book, where is YOUR proof?
FR... if your holy spirit is real... PROOF IT
I can not proof a negative, you must by now know the reindeer-theory:
if I say reindeers fly, I have to proof it
and if someone says reindeers CAN'T fly, they have to find every single deer, throw him off a cliff and then change every variable to check if it's indeed impossible/possible for them to fly, which is impossible to do.
So, ... where is your proof?
and please, if you're so sure of what you're talking about, you sure do talk a lot of bull... there is TONS of things to disprove the bible!
Thanks for the reply... I know what chromosomes are, but organisms with different numbers of them in their dna can't, on the genetic level, breed. (Or maybe they can, but the offspring will be, well, pretty messed up.) So how do groups of organisms with different numbers of chromosomes- species- arise? Help, please!!!
I odnt htik anyone knows where we came from.
sure you can say god created s, or some alien made us, but we still really dont know, its specualion. and evoltuion is all like, we evolved*(to lazy to finish)
but evolution doesnt know hwere we came from either...so basicly, were screwed, and are rpobably gonna blow ourselves up. merry christmas.
First off, I go to these anti-Bible websites, and they just take stuff out of context...and again, more misquotes. I'm not wasting my time on trying to tell you what the Bible really says. Again, you can't compare the big bang to the Bible...Evolution and the Bible do not go together. In the Bible, it says that God created humans and animals for us to govern over us. Evolution states that we evolved from animals...again, that contradicts the Bible...You guys are the only guys I've ever met you mixed the two together. Everyone I know and have heard of, either that is an Evolutionist or a religious person did not believe the others theories. I'm sorry, but the two just don't go together. Darwin did not believe in the Bible, and evolution was created by a guy who thought of this idea...how can he really know how we created? Again, the Bible, if you follow the general timeline will show that Earth isn't as old as evolutionits say it is...they says its billions of years old...The Bible does not.
erm...R-C... read the theory please, we DO know where we come from, we trace it back till Time Zero
hunchy: so basicly... you're chickening out. "you're not wasting your time" huh? then don't bother posting here if you're not willing to discuss at all.
It will come as a shock to you... but men also created the creatism theory😱 😐
yeah, the bible says it's 6000 years old... dinosaurs are older than 65 million years 🙄