silver surfer vs superman

Started by Avalonofthewind51 pages

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Read the forum rules, buddy. Crossovers aren't canon.

No Non-canon Sources

Non-canon sources are invalid for evidence. With rare exceptions, comics not in continuity such as Elseworlds, What Ifs, or alternate universes are not used for evidence in debates of a particular mainstream character.
As well, instances of PIS (plot induce stupidity - see below) and SvFL (Spiderman vs. Firelord - see below) are generally removed from consideration in standard versus debates.

A canon source is one that is regarded as being 'in continuity'. In the example of Star Trek; instances from the series and movies can be used, but books are definitely out. [b]Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!). [/B]

"Comic book crossovers are usually unusable"

Read that part over and over again... is doesnt say they are unusable.
DC vs Marvel was a fan voted Crossover. Mine weren't. Nice try though.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Isnt the middle of a planet where all of the gases and stuff are.

Shouldnt be too tough to ignite them and blow up a planet from the inside.

Gases? 😆 I'm sorry, that's incorrect.

The core of a planet is molten rock. There are no gases present to ignite.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
"Comic book crossovers are usually unusable"

Read that part over and over again... is doesnt say they are unusable.
DC vs Marvel was a fan voted Crossover. Mine weren't. Nice try though.

It doesn't say anything about Fan voted crossovers. It says crossovers ignore a character's abilities, like in GL vs Surfer, or any other crossover.

It also says that crossovers aren't in continuity. 😄 Sorry about that.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Gases? 😆 I'm sorry, that's incorrect.

The core of a planet is molten rock. There are no gases present to ignite.


There was nothing like gas or anything

It was a planet size object and every bit of matter attracting SS ( magnitize)

Which is much hardly than blowing a normal planet

This was done by Korvac a powerful being who rivals near Galactus level of power cosmic.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Gases? 😆 I'm sorry, that's incorrect.

The core of a planet is molten rock. There are no gases present to ignite.

He was still in the middle of it. That cant be denied.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He was still in the middle of it. That cant be denied.

read my post

Originally posted by kgkg

It was a planet size object and every bit of matter attracting SS ( magnitize)
.

Now it goes from a planet to a planet size object.

Now this is totally useless cause if its a object of numerous peices that means that it is already broken. 😆

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He was still in the middle of it. That cant be denied.

What does that have to do with anything? It was magnetized to him by Korvac, a Galactus level being.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Now it goes from a planet to a planet size object.

Now this is totally useless cause if its a object of numerous peices that means that it is already broken. 😆


already broken?

do you know what magnitize means?

Korvac made a planet out of rocks and trapped SS inside it.

And he broke that planet.

Originally posted by kgkg
already broken?

do you know what magnitize means?

Korvac made a planet out of rocks and trapped SS inside it.

And he broke that planet.

That would mean that there would be cracks all over the place like a giant Egyptian pyramid. You guys have to do better than this.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
It doesn't say anything about Fan voted crossovers. It says crossovers ignore a character's abilities, like in GL vs Surfer, or any other crossover.

It also says that crossovers aren't in continuity. 😄 Sorry about that.

Show me where it says that...here let me put it back on for you:

"A canon source is one that is regarded as being 'in continuity'. In the example of Star Trek; instances from the series and movies can be used, but books are definitely out. Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!). "

Hmmm..Usually unusable... Dc vs Marvel..a voted on crossover.
Doesnt say all crossovers dont count..especially if they are in continuity.
Feel free to show where it says ALL crossovers are unusable. 🙂

So how does Superman win?

Originally posted by kgkg
So how does Superman win?
He dont. 😉

But this is sure fun.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He dont. 😉

But this is sure fun.


Then why am I arguing lol peace.

Surfer has the best chance of winning but in the last few days I am more convinced that Superman does have a shot at winning. He has defeated other guys who posed just as great as threat as Surfer does.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Show me where it says that...here let me put it back on for you:

"A canon source is one that is regarded as being 'in continuity'. In the example of Star Trek; instances from the series and movies can be used, but books are definitely out. Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!). "

Hmmm..Usually unusable... Dc vs Marvel..a voted on crossover.
Doesnt say all crossovers dont count..especially if they are in continuity.
Feel free to show where it says ALL crossovers are unusable. 🙂

Feel free to show me where it says any crossovers are in continuity.

Surfer doesn't use his powers to the best of his ability in the crossover. Obviously, it isn't canon, or usable.

The only crossovers that suck are the fan voted one.

All of the others arnt that bad.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Surfer has the best chance of winning but in the last few days I am more convinced that Superman does have a shot at winning. He has defeated other guys who posed just as great as threat as Surfer does.

If Surfer stands still, and let's Superman hit him with his best blows, Superman will win. How else can he win?

The only time Superman beats foes that are more powerful is when he is enhanced, (example: Imperiex.) He doesn't have a way to beat the Surfer.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Surfer has the best chance of winning but in the last few days I am more convinced that Superman does have a shot at winning. He has defeated other guys who posed just as great as threat as Surfer does.

-The fact is Surfer has got hit from Savage hulk and at the end of the fight it was like nothing had happened.

-Superman heat vision won't work - SS goes through stars.

- Superman speed - No match for SS speed and reaction.

- Superman Durability - SS also has high durability
Has survived planet destroying attack , Took hit from all the avengers(at the same time) and wasn't hurt etc.

SS weaknesses ? None

SS has been said to be stronger than Gladiator , BRB

Superman weakness ? Kry , Red Sun light , Gold light ---- All SS can produce.

SS can go back in time, Can turn Superman into clay etc too many thing SS can do

Originally posted by snoopdogg
The only crossovers that suck are the fan voted one.

All of the others arnt that bad.

Still, Surfer doesn't do what he has shown he can do in his in continuity comics. Surfer vs GL wasn't nearly as bad as Wolverine vs Lobo. It was pretty good, but it doesn't give a fair depiction of the Silver Surfer, either.