silver surfer vs superman

Started by Cosmic Cube51 pages

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well I dont think he can. Caue its not a fundamental element of his powers creation.

That like taking a GameCube game to you buddies house and trying to play it on his Playstation 2.

Who's to say that the Kryptonite wavelength does not exist in Marvel?

With the proper technology, that's entirely possible.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Who's to say that the Kryptonite wavelength does not exist in Marvel?

With the proper technology, that's entirely possible.

Are you being serious?

Can you prove kryptonite exists in Marvel 😆 Good luck. 😉

Face it Norrin is not doing anything K-nite related.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Are you being serious?

Can you prove kryptonite exists in Marvel 😆 Good luck. 😉

Face it Norrin is not doing anything K-nite related.


Quite serious.

I can't prove that it does. You can't prove that it doesn't.

Why should we assume that DC's electromagnetic spectrum is any different than Marvel's?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube

I can't prove that it does. You can't prove that it doesn't.

Cosmic why are you so arrogant. Does Krypton exist in the MU? Cause that is the only place you could have gotten Kryptonite.

Thats like saying that DC has Adamantium and Vibranium.

Ill admitt you crack me up sometimes. 😂

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Cosmic why are you so arrogant. Does Krypton exist in the MU? Cause that is the only place you could have gotten Kryptonite.

Thats like saying that DC has Adamantium and Vibranium.

Ill admitt you crack me up sometimes. 😂

Not talking about the actual rock called Kryptonite, which is a fragment of the planet Krypton.

Surfer could create purple stone called "Dolomite," and if it has the same frequency and energy signature as Kryptonite, it would have the same effect on Superman.

I'm not saying that Kryptonite exists in Marvel, or that Adamantium exists in DC. I'm saying that the radiation frequency of Kryptonite can be duplicated. Saying that the frequency of Kryptonite can not be duplicated in Marvel is like saying "in Marvel 2 + 2 = 4, but in DC 2 + 2 = 5." Illogical, huh?

Glad to give you a laugh. 😉

Glad to give you a laugh. 😉

i didnt feel like reading the previous 30 pages but someone must have mentioned that SS b-itched out gladiator(supes baby bro) by telling him to keep cool cuz he knows that he is suseptible to certain radiations he can easily re-create with his power cosmic, so whats stopping him from conjuring kryptonite, the same way the GLs can do it but not make it as good as the original

Originally posted by manjaro
i didnt feel like reading the previous 30 pages but someone must have mentioned that SS b-itched out gladiator(supes baby bro) by telling him to keep cool cuz he knows that he is suseptible to certain radiations he can easily re-create with his power cosmic, so whats stopping him from conjuring kryptonite, the same way the GLs can do it but not make it as good as the original

That's one of the many ways Surfer could win.

Snoop doesn't think that it would work because there is no Kryptonite in the MU. Thing is, it doesn't have to be Kryptonite(TM). Surfer could scan Supes like he did Glad, find his weakness, and create radiation blasts that exploit it. That's the beauty of cosmic awareness.

cosmic scanning is another feasible option for superman isnt vulnerbale to just kryptonite radiation. also ive read oodles of captain marvel comics where his "cosmic sense" assessed perilous situations for him, and told him how to combat them. and he ususally says something like wow my cosmic sense is telling me that something really dangerous is down there and that i really need to be careful(amped up spidey sense basically)...the same way when galactus made johhny storm his herald and he went to that world his comsic sense told him that the little guy was the actual ruler of the planet, instead of the tall domineering one and that the other planet they were trying to send him to were thier enemies and they just wanted to use him to exterminate thier foes.

so once SS steps back a minute he'll know what to do and when to do it. i mean it wasnt luck or anything that he was able to discern that the hulk was fueled by gamma radiation. so however, corny they wanna write it's still possible. even if they wanna throw up a thought bubble that says wow my cosmic sense tells me that this guy is solar powered maybe i should give a blast of red solar energy and sap him or maybe just sap his solar reserves first hand, or maybe i should attune my energies to the correct frequency of kryptonite

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Who's to say that the Kryptonite wavelength does not exist in Marvel?

With the proper technology, that's entirely possible.


Radioactive man in JLA/AVENGERS blasted Supes with kryptonite radiation.

Originally posted by manjaro
cosmic scanning is another feasible option for superman isnt vulnerbale to just kryptonite radiation. also ive read oodles of captain marvel comics where his "cosmic sense" assessed perilous situations for him, and told him how to combat them. and he ususally says something like wow my cosmic sense is telling me that something really dangerous is down there and that i really need to be careful(amped up spidey sense basically)...the same way when galactus made johhny storm his herald and he went to that world his comsic sense told him that the little guy was the actual ruler of the planet, instead of the tall domineering one and that the other planet they were trying to send him to were thier enemies and they just wanted to use him to exterminate thier foes.

so once SS steps back a minute he'll know what to do and when to do it. i mean it wasnt luck or anything that he was able to discern that the hulk was fueled by gamma radiation. so however, corny they wanna write it's still possible. even if they wanna throw up a thought bubble that says wow my cosmic sense tells me that this guy is solar powered maybe i should give a blast of red solar energy and sap him or maybe just sap his solar reserves first hand, or maybe i should attune my energies to the correct frequency of kryptonite


Agreed. The Silver Surfer is simply too versatile and powerful.

There are oodles of ways for him to win. Surfer probably wouldn't turn Superman to stone, but he's capable of doing so. Draining Supes is an option. Slowing Supes solar metabolism would work as well. Hey, he could take the slightly longer route and use cosmic blasts.

Superman's only option is punching Surfer. If Surfer doesn't want Superman to touch him, he could totally evade him, taking away all chances of victory. Super breath? Cold doesn't affect Surfer. Heat vision? Surfer will absorb it, say "thanks," and keep it moving.

Surfer wins this fight. If Superman is nice, Surfer might get rid of that pesky kryptonite allergy for him.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Radioactive man in JLA/AVENGERS blasted Supes with kryptonite radiation.

Ahah! So it is possible! So much for that notion, snoop. 😉

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Ahah! So it is possible! So much for that notion, snoop. 😉

But not cannon😄

Well, cannon only counts when it is convenient. 😄

That goes for both sides. 😎

Indeed😄

<<I dont know if Norrin can make krytonite cause they dont have it in his universe His power cosmic makes him able to transmute elements within his own universe.>>

first, why would they be fighting in ss universe? second, regardless, i'm with cube on this - it'd be preety easy for ss to duplicate the wavelength of k-radiation.

<<Well Leo, I wont say Supes is immune to kryptonite.. but it wouldnt be as easy as surfer just making some to win. Here is supes standing next to a giant boulder of the stuff and not having any ill effects. He even locks himself in the room with it.>>

i know it wouldn't kill him outright - supes would fight through it for a while. the problem - even WITHOUT the radiation hindering him, supes would have a hell of a time beating ss. anything that weakens him, (and has no effect at all on anything ss can do) would make it even that much MORE difficult. a 100% supes would have a tough time ko'ing ss (but i think he could) - a supes weakened by continual exposure to k-nite? supes would still make a fight of it for a while, but i couldn't see him winning.

as for transmuting - i'd need to see further evidence of that (the power used against high level opponents) before i accept he could do it to supes. as for balsting him - supes durability is legendary and he's taken monumental shots and gotten up again. it would take more than blasting him to beat him. unless he's being blasted over and over again by k-nite.

by the way, someone a while back asked what is the power cosmic. it's an interesting question. you could say it is part of the primal force that created our universe and was given to galactus. he in turn gave a tiny fraction to his heralds. ss 's power however is at least in part based on gathering the ambient energies of stars. the stranger almost killed him by putting him in some sort of a 'black body' and preventing him from drawing on the stars for power. another time, a weakened ss was geeting punished by wonderman until he was at last able to draw power from the stars again. stars were the first things to coalesce out of the big bang though, so it sort of makes sense. in a comicbook sort of way, anyways . . .

I'm going with Surfer, he's just way too good, not at all like the version on the FF cartoon show.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
But not cannon😄

That's 'canon'. Things are only canon when I say that they are. It's to my sole discretion.

Originally posted by leonidas
as for transmuting - i'd need to see further evidence of that (the power used against high level opponents) before i accept he could do it to supes. as for balsting him - supes durability is legendary and he's taken monumental shots and gotten up again. it would take more than blasting him to beat him. unless he's being blasted over and over again by k-nite.

He once did it to Impossible Man. His body is like a GL ring, and he can manipulate matter. That's pretty darn high level.

<<He once did it to Impossible Man. His body is like a GL ring, and he can manipulate matter. That's pretty darn high level.>>

hmm, i'll check it out. i know the issue you're referring to but didn't remember him transuting the little bastard.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<He once did it to Impossible Man. His body is like a GL ring, and he can manipulate matter. That's pretty darn high level.>>

hmm, i'll check it out. i know the issue you're referring to but didn't remember him transuting the little bastard.

He did. Impossible Man turned Surfer into a chicken. Surfer turned himself back, and turned Impossible Man into Wolverine. Classic.