Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Rival maybe.Exceed - possibly not.
Superman here prevents the Earth from being pulled through a blackhole by blocking it with his own body.
Then he closes it, defeating the infinite well of gravity using his pure muscle power and strength.
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He closed a black hole?! 🤨
Never mind. You're right, Zephro.
How the hell do you 'close' a black hole?
Originally posted by olympian
"when did the story itself say booster to be wrong"Everytime Lois Lane made the report on how the fight was going, everytime a camera was catching all the action and everytime pll on the streeth could see where they wer heading.
"meh..doesn't matter... doomsday owned flash twice in doomsday wars... once WHILE he was buisy kicking the crap out of wonder woman"
Thats another different Doomsday. Im talking DOS where that statement shows up.
booster's claim was in reaction to doomsdays hand to hand and reaction speeds, not his overall movement. doomsday wasn't zipping around anywhere fast, but he was outspeeding supes and maxima in h2h.
Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Regardless - I believe that this fight depends on your definition of Doomsday's evolution.He's been killed by physical force before - does that mean he's now immune to physical force?
Or does it mean he's only immune to the LEVEL of force used before?
If it's the first, then Doomsday wins.
If it's the second, Hulk wins.
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There's no reason to believe that Doomsday is, or ever will be totally immune to physical harm. However, he's still strong enough to beat some incarnations of the Hulk.
Jinzin wants this fight to be is Gog-wars Doomsday against a normal, calm Hulk. Totally unfair. If we're going to use the highest level Doomsday in this fight, it's only fair to use the highest level Hulk. In that case, Hulk will not lose.
"booster's claim was in reaction to doomsdays hand to hand and reaction speeds, not his overall movement. doomsday wasn't zipping around anywhere fast, but he was outspeeding supes and maxima in h2h"
Its still wrong. Reaction speeds its something they werent at Flash level either.
And h2h Maxima was doing quite well. Doomsday didnt showed superior h2h skills. He showed superior brute strenght.
Maxima was helding her own pretty well with Superman until the gas station explosion knocked the two out.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
There's no reason to believe that Doomsday is, or ever will be totally immune to physical harm. However, he's still strong enough to beat some incarnations of the Hulk.Jinzin wants this fight to be is Gog-wars Doomsday against a normal, calm Hulk. Totally unfair. If we're going to use the highest level Doomsday in this fight, it's only fair to use the highest level Hulk. In that case, Hulk will not lose.
gog wars doomsday is what the character currently is.. that's not my fault.. a while back you were arguing that doomsday could be KOed easily since supes did it to dd rex.. that wasn't fare either..
I'm using current versions.. hulk loses plain and simple...
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
There's no reason to believe that Doomsday is, or ever will be totally immune to physical harm. However, he's still strong enough to beat some incarnations of the Hulk.Jinzin wants this fight to be is Gog-wars Doomsday against a normal, calm Hulk. Totally unfair. If we're going to use the highest level Doomsday in this fight, it's only fair to use the highest level Hulk. In that case, Hulk will not lose.
Very true.
Hulk at Max strength defies the laws of physics.
Even if DD WAS immune to physical harm - Hulk would STILL get strong enough to beat him, lol! 😄 Hulk's strength allows him to do the impossible.
But yes - it's unfair to use Hulk at his lowest showing.
Iy's a bit like all these threads that popped up a coupla weeks back:
Superman With One Arm Tied Behind His Back, No Heat Vision, Blindfolded With Lead, No Speedblitzing vs These Characters.
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Originally posted by olympian
"booster's claim was in reaction to doomsdays hand to hand and reaction speeds, not his overall movement. doomsday wasn't zipping around anywhere fast, but he was outspeeding supes and maxima in h2h"Its still wrong. Reaction speeds its something they werent at Flash level either.
And h2h Maxima was doing quite well. Doomsday didnt showed superior h2h skills. He showed superior brute strenght.
Maxima was helding her own pretty well with Superman until the gas station explosion knocked the two out.
I'm not claiming maxima didn't do well against doomsday... doesn't hurt that she attacked him from bhind by the way...
i'm saying that doomsday was outspeeding her, which is true... a beautiful display of such was when he dodged her punch then smacked her with a van before she could react...
now my question is, if doomsday's speed has been proven ANYWAYS.. why are you continuing to argue against it?
Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Very true.Hulk at Max strength defies the laws of physics.
Even if DD WAS immune to physical harm - Hulk would STILL get strong enough to beat him, lol! 😄 Hulk's strength allows him to do the impossible.
But yes - it's unfair to use Hulk at his lowest showing.
Iy's a bit like all these threads that popped up a coupla weeks back:
Superman With One Arm Tied Behind His Back, No Heat Vision, Blindfolded With Lead, No Speedblitzing vs These Characters.
😛
hulk at his lowest showing? no one's doing that here.. if i wanted to do that I'd be making claims against grey hulk.
Originally posted by jinzin
gog wars doomsday is what the character currently is.. that's not my fault.. a while back you were arguing that doomsday could be KOed easily since supes did it to dd rex.. that wasn't fare either..I'm using current versions.. hulk loses plain and simple...
That's BS and you know it, Jinzin. Doomsday isn't currently Gog Wars Doomsday. That happens in the future. In fact, I'm not sure if the Gog Wars are even in regular continuity.
I said that Doomsday doesn't become immune to physical damage after being defeated by it because Supes KOed him twice. I never said KOing him was easy.
"now my question is, if doomsday's speed has been proven ANYWAYS.. why are you continuing to argue against it?"
Anyways nada. What im stating is that both Doomsday and Superman werent fighting at top speeds and definatly not Flash fast. Neither Maxima.
Unless and i said this before, humans at DC can perceive and see those speeds. Wich they cant.
That Doomsday got faster later on its a fact. Im going strickly DOS.
"hulk at his lowest showing? no one's doing that here.. if i wanted to do that I'd be making claims against grey hulk"
The Hulk with the lowest showings isent the Grey. Its Savage Hulk.
Well its the green version of the month. Gravage, Banner Hulk, Merged whatever you like to call it.
Originally posted by olympian
"now my question is, if doomsday's speed has been proven ANYWAYS.. why are you continuing to argue against it?"Anyways nada. What im stating is that both Doomsday and Superman werent fighting at top speeds and definatly not Flash fast. Neither Maxima.
Unless and i said this before, humans at DC can perceive and see those speeds. Wich they cant.
That Doomsday got faster later on its a fact. Im going strickly DOS.
"hulk at his lowest showing? no one's doing that here.. if i wanted to do that I'd be making claims against grey hulk"
The Hulk with the lowest showings isent the Grey. Its Savage Hulk.
Well its the green version of the month. Gravage, Banner Hulk, Merged whatever you like to call it.
Not Savage Hulk. It's just "The Hulk." He's unidentifiable. Last I saw him he was in "Grizzly Hulk." The story sucked.
"would say that while doomsday may not have been fighting as fast as flash he was fightig at comparitive speeds.."
Like at the same footing?
Nah, otherwise pll wouldnt be able to perceive his moves.
"Not Savage Hulk. It's just "The Hulk." He's unidentifiable. Last I saw him he was in "Grizzly Hulk." The story sucked."
I get lost with so many versions honestly. He had his most recent low showing (also bad writting) when Spidey Ko him. That was Savage or "Grizzly"?
What about when that snake chocked him? Was it during Pad`s run? Probably Merged then.
Awright. Ill just call him Green Hulk.
Originally posted by jinzin
gog wars was in regular continuity as regular continuity supes' friends and family are saved by gog wars doomsday....the second example you're using is when dd was obviously depowered to ridiculous extents.. and yet you think that's okay?
That doesn't mean that he exists in regular continuity. He's from another timeline. An alternate reality.
I think that the very nature of Doomsday's power shows that once he's defeated by a form of attack, he adapts to that level of power, not that type of power altogether.