Wolverine VS Cyclops

Originally posted by manorastroman
scoobless (at least i think it was scoobless) had that whole threaed about who ought to be able to dodge bullets, and he did a fine job of drawing the line between dodging bullets and just evading the aim of the gunmen.

like what you said about quicksilver, basically.

Oh, yea. I remember that thread now.

Yea, that's basically what I'm trying to say.

Doesn't work the same way as bullets, but show me proof they can go lightspeed

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Even then, Quicksilver during the old days was mach 1 at best yet he was face to face with Cyclops and he avoided the blasts. Also hard to dodge the aim, as Cyclops can extend or narrow his optic blasts

Not for someone that moves as fast and as has such incredible reflexes that make Cyke look like he's standing still. If I had Quicksilver's powers (Pre-HOM, of course), I could dodge Cyke's blasts all day, too. Just by avoiding where he's looking and such.

Here let's put it this way, their concussive blasts right? Well a concussive blasts moving at light speed would kill basically anyone it hits as it's like a bricking hitting you at light speed. Then what about Wolverine, the goons at the bar? and various other heroes and villians who have dodged his blasts.

Once again show me proof his blasts move at lightspeed

* dude, Quicksilver BARELY dodged Cyke's blasts because of his speed, Wolverine is way out of Pietro's league in terms of speed so saying Logan can dodge Cyke's blasts is, excuse the term, absolutely bullcrap...

* about Northstar, Cyke had tagged him once, and in my humble opinion, Cyke can do it again... you can also pay a visit to the Cyclops respect thread ... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* dude, Quicksilver BARELY dodged Cyke's blasts because of his speed, Wolverine is way out of Pietro's league in terms of speed so saying Logan can dodge Cyke's blasts is, excuse the term, absolutely bullcrap...

* about Northstar, Cyke had tagged him once, and in my humble opinion, Cyke can do it again... you can also pay a visit to the Cyclops respect thread ... 😉

not to mention logan has hit speed demond
dodged lving lightning and so on.

I think cyclops wins.

How will Wolverine ever even get close to cyclops?

In AOA, Cyke blasted Wolves hand off.

Originally posted by bigbran
In AOA, Cyke blasted Wolves hand off.

also you do remeber he cut scots eye out right?

Originally posted by capt it up
aoa logan is not 616 nor does he have the same bonding proccesses.

also you do remeber he cut scots eye out right?

Originally posted by capt it up
lets see hmm since they started lol.

AOA even states mult times that logan is an alpha.

most every one on the x-men team is an alpha

Originally posted by bigbran
It seemed pretty canon earlier today.

also you think your smart or some thing like I did not see that comming a mile away, but ya nice try

it true aoa = not cannon so technically the power clase they used would be false though it pritty clear that most of the 616 counter parts are far more powerful.

Originally posted by capt it up
that two different things and when did I say it was cannon? I said it was stated in it that they were alphas. the protocal stated it as well and that is cannon.

also you think your smart or some thing like I did not see that comming a mile away, but ya nice try

Originally posted by capt it up
it true aoa = not cannon so technically the power clase they used would be false though it pritty clear that most of the 616 counter parts are far more powerful.

Originally posted by bigbran
😄

That's all I needed.
I just wanted to use a non canon comic to support my comic too! 😱

by the way who said I was using a non cannon source I said even in aoa I did not use aoa as a primary source

Originally posted by peejayd
* dude, Quicksilver BARELY dodged Cyke's blasts because of his speed, Wolverine is way out of Pietro's league in terms of speed so saying Logan can dodge Cyke's blasts is, excuse the term, absolutely bullcrap...

* about Northstar, Cyke had tagged him once, and in my humble opinion, Cyke can do it again... you can also pay a visit to the Cyclops respect thread ... 😉

Yet he did, so how does that prove it's lightspeed? if anything it actually hurt your case since he did it. Also others have dodged his blasts with relative ease.

Maybe you should read the whole comic as Cyclops tagged Northstar when he wasn't even fighting him. Northstar took out Storm, so Cyclops tagged him. Tag Northstar again?...wow your off, before Cyclops tagged Northstar, he kept pounding on Scott even Cyclops still felt the punch afterwards. That was Northstar's first apperances, if you think he could actually tag him again you would be wrong and I suggest you go to the Aurora/Northstar respect thread

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=423434&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by capt it up
you really love ing a dick don't you?

Originally posted by capt it up
aoa logan is not 616 nor does he have the same bonding proccesses.

also you do remeber he cut scots eye out right?

Was is clearly stated anywhere in AOA that Wolvie's adamantium bonding process was different from his "mainstream" counterpart? Specifically stated?

...AoA IS 616 Marvel.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...AoA IS 616 Marvel.

Well, I know that. Some people just aren't getting the memo. 😬

The only difference between either universe is that xavier wasn't in it...

um... yah... cyke still developed the same.

Wolverine still developed the same...

Cyke makes wolvies hand go bye bye..

you make up excuses. adamantium is still adamantium. cyke is still cyke....

excuses excuses...

now if you wanna go with the smvsfl excuse.. that he's never done a feat of that caliber apparently before... and hasn't since...THAT excuse i could handle... but ... otherwise...

excuses.. excuses....

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Here let's put it this way, their concussive blasts right? Well a concussive blasts moving at light speed would kill basically anyone it hits as it's like a bricking hitting you at light speed. Then what about Wolverine, the goons at the bar? and various other heroes and villians who have dodged his blasts.

Once again show me proof his blasts move at lightspeed

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's concussive force that displays the properties akin light with regard to reflection, diffraction, polarization, refraction. A single unidirectional "ray" can simultaneous strike multiple places at one time via reflection. From this, and in lieu of any better estimate, one can infer that it may have speed akin to light.

Besides, why is it so incredulous to reconcile Cyclops' beam speed with people dodging it? I already explained how easy it is to dodge Cyclops' beams. Why is this even an issue anymore? If you want me to repeat it, imagine if you had a flashlight taped to your head and it is shining it's beam of light. Now picture me at 20 feet away running around. You'd be able to keep the flashlight beam on me pretty well. Now imagine me 2-3 feet away from you ducking side to side, you're gonna have a ***** of a time training that beam of light to stay on my body. Cyclop's light-speed beams is easily reconciliable with people dodging Cyclops, even as depicted in 'Wolverine: Origins.'