Silver Surfer vs Thor

Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Actually, yes, I am 'admitting now that Thor without the OdinForce is superior to Surfer.' I'm surprised you are though, lol.

ok ok i amde a mistake, big deal, i wanted to say if you now admit that thor without the odin force is inferior to surfer, but you already knew what i meant

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
ok.......... your point being??

Point being you were not even in the discussion, so why are you asking me what MY point is?

ummmm ok........ odin could run circles around surfer, and finish him off before breakfast....... that is NOT a fact. you are simply blowing smoke.

Odin/Skyfathers are a category (pursuant to my posting) higher than Silver Surfer - and feel free to offer us examples of Odin being routinely MUCH more powerful than Silver Surfer. If you can.

thats not what S.S. says 🙂

Big deal. Characters have told The Hulk that he is the "quickest being that they have ever seen."

not him sorry...... i dont think he should be mentioned either considering he has nothing to do with this thread.

Again, I was not addressing you or one of your posts, so...why are you here?

if i'm not mistaken superman has taken MM??? please correct me if i'm wrong. also i see the problem, you are comparing dc to marvel, when this is clearly a marvel/marvel battle. the crossovers hold very little water, if any at all......

If I'm not mistaken (and I am not) Superman has said over and over and OVER and OVER again that Martian Manhunter is his superior. Superman and Thor are VERY equal. Superman is Surfer's inferior, and quite so. MM is roughly Silver Surfer's equal. MM is Thor's superior. YOU do the math, if you are at all capable. Re: crossovers, LoL - they are in CONTINUITY (especially the JLA vs. Avengers crossover). Of COURSE they hold PLENTY of "water." And again, if one character "takes" another in ONE fight, are they necessarily more powerful? HELL no. Spiderman has knocked out Firelord. Beat his ASS. You know, Galactus' herald? One time Class 70 strength, interplanetary-travelling Firelord?

actually the collective might of the watchers is = to the celestials. and the watchers are roughly as powerful as galactus. also i think it should be mentioned that odin has said that he has repelled galactus himself (not to mention, that it has been said more than once by various characters) so i'm not sure where you are drawing your conclusions from. also, galactus is said to be a very powerful psion, yet a watcher shielded reed richards mind from galactus reading it. odd dont you think?? i think you have your heirarchy all screwed up.

What is this garbage? One, heh, Dark Phoenix has "repelled" Galactus alone. Rachel as Phoenix has "repelled" Galactus. So what? Full power Galactus would hachoo Odin all around the galaxy; in addition, is Galactus one of the characters who is characterized inconsistently? YES. Re: A Watcher shielding RR from Galactus, whoop de doo? What has that to do with the issue at hand (which, by the way, you were not even a part of)?

i dont think i have to comment on the rest of the list.......

You comments were neither warranted nor needed in the first place.

and it should stay as the marvel universe, and i think i've provided enough information that sky fathers are indeed more powerful than silver surfer, thor is roughly equal to, but slightly more so considering surfer has admitted it.

Show me please where I said that Silver Surfer is more powerful than a Skyfather. ANYWHERE in ANY thread. See what happens when you misread, misquote, misfire? Did I say it HERE?

Skyfathers are not much more powerful than The Silver Surfer, and that is fact.

No. So whom are YOU addressing?

this is irrelavant.......

So is what, 65% of your response?

ok, spidey beat fire lord cuz hes marvels mickey mouse, he would win in a fight against god himself if marvel made the comic, all spidey fights are irelavent

and did u say the MM was more powerfull than superman, thats a good one

Originally posted by crazyspinz
ok, spidey beat fire lord cuz hes marvels mickey mouse, he would win in a fight against god himself if marvel made the comic, all spidey fights are irelavent

and did u say the MM was more powerfull than superman, thats a good one

I cannot believe I am doing this, but...all Spidey fights are irrelevant? Okay.

Superman and other members of the JLA have ALL stated that MM is more powerful than Superman. Heh, if you knew the characters like you THINK you do - wait, here's one for you, smart guy:

"Physically he is Superman's league in terms of strength and endurance -"

http://www.dcuguide.com/Who/MartianManhunter_Bio.php

Hmm, the DCU guide to DC comics. I wonder if THEY know what they are talking about? Now how about what sets him apart from Superman?

"He has the ability to totally control his physical structure allowing him to shape shift, morph fluidly, and even turn invisible or intangible briefly."

http://www.dcuguide.com/Who/MartianManhunter_Bio.php

TOTAL control down to the atomic level. Next:

"Also a powerful telepath with knowledge of many advanced Martian techniques. Can project an energy beam from his eyes called Martian Vision."

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1185/jfiles/martianmanhunter.html

SO. ALL of the abilities (that merit mention) that Superman possesses, PLUS complete control over his physiology, incredible telepathy, telekinesis, AND can become intangible.

Any further questions?

ok, but manhunter is basicaly the dc version of vision, and u cant deny that

and thor is mutch stronger than vision, but superman is equil to thor and surfer is above them both

DC version of Vision? what What WHAT!?

um look at there powers dude, they are the exact same.

wait are u voting for surfer or thor

Exactly the same?

Um, Vison is an android. Thus...no telepathy.

Can Vision shape-shift? No. How strong is he? How fast is he?

The only thing they have in common is the ability to rend themselves immaterial and the ability to shoot beams.

No need to vote - I know Surfer is more powerful.

well, they are very similar, and i think he can kinda read minds in a weird technical way that makes sense somehow...

and yes surfer would win

wrathofachilles

Thor with OdinForce is at his most powerful, thus when one states 'Thor at his most powerful' the OdinForce must be taken into account.

Facts are facts eh? You seem to have a misunderstanding of the definition of the word then. "Surfer > Thor" is not a fact.

Fact.

Look at the very first post, read what the RULES ARE.

The two cosmic beings go at it head to head, Thor heir to Asgard rumbling against Silver Surfer herald of the Devourer Of Worlds Galactus.

Magic Vs. Cosmic: Thor Vs. Silver Surfer

- regular Thor, not King Thor/Odin Powered Thor
- Bloodlust
- On a deserted planet
- Utilize abilities to their fullest

Who wins? Who's more powerful?
Let's start some shit people!

As for the fact, I was refering to what I wrote in that same post. "The bum was powered by anger, adrenaline, & maddness, attacking even Sif." Surfer was only fueled by anger & concern - not total madness & relentlessness.

Never

Odin/Skyfathers are a category (pursuant to my posting) higher than Silver Surfer - and feel free to offer us examples of Odin being routinely MUCH more powerful than Silver Surfer. If you can.

Gladly 😉 Warlock and the Infinity Watch #25: "Raid on Asgard" Odin, with one back hand blast, swatted Surfer right out of the picture as SS attacked Odin from above while Thanos & Odin were engaging in battle. SS was out of the fight like that. Odin also easily broke free of the power prism which Thanos used on him, a tricked that held Warrior Madness Thor W/ the Power Gem. While encased, Thor with the assistance of the Power Gem was slowly breaking through (slowly being it lasted the entire Infinity Watch Vs. Asgard, then SS & Thanos Vs. Odin fight). Odin easily broke free within seconds - even stating that that tricked might have worked on the son but not the father.

Odin also easily blasted Annihilus right out of Asgard when Annihilus was mouthing off about being "The Walking Death." Odin surpasses Surfer in power no doubt. He also kicked Seth's butt, as there fight was shaking across the universe. People on Earth and else where felt the waves from this battle.

Originally posted by crazyspinz
ok, spidey beat fire lord cuz hes marvels mickey mouse, he would win in a fight against god himself if marvel made the comic, all spidey fights are irelavent

and did u say the MM was more powerfull than superman, thats a good one

What? Spider-Man would not win a fight against God himself even if Marvel made it. Spider-Man has had his ass handed to him so many times it's...well actually it is funny, lol. Doom literally knocked him through buildings in Amazing 350 *best Spidey fight ever*, Venom has nearly killed him, Doc Ock has nearly killed him, Green Goblin has nearly killed him, etc. etc. Yes Spidey always comes back to win, he's the hero, but he loses quite frequently. He usually beats other heroes because the other heroes underestimate him and Spider-Man hates to be underestimated. Hell, he beat the hell out of Silver Surfer too, screw Firelord. He does it cause he doesn't care about 'power', he just has a temper and takes it out on cosmic demi-gods, lol.

I know what the rules are, but people keep talking about 'Surfer is so powerful and when he's at his strongest.' When Thor is at his strongest, he is vastly more powerful than Surfer. As for normal Thor vs. Surfer, more powerful doesn't mean anything. This is about a fight. Thor is the superior fighter in every aspect. If it's a 'look what I can do' contest, Surfer wins, if this is a hand-to-hand combat, it's one of those match-ups where either can come away with the victory as easily as the other, but Thor is the better fighter.

almost true

They already fought, neone remember who one?

and y?

send this thread back to hell where it belongs

thor won

50/50

thor only won because he had warior madness and surfer was holding back because he consiterd thor a friend and didnt want to hurt him

no he didnt hold back