Originally posted by Gecko4lif
3 years of debating..Is this a record?
Originally posted by Larceny
It his amazement of the length of the debate. 🙂And I did no editing. 😇
About the lenght of the debate yes i really think its a record, never saw another thread lasting so long.
But come one surfer vs thor its a classic 😮💨
Originally posted by Loot
About the lenght of the debate yes i really think its a record, never saw another thread lasting so long.But come one surfer vs thor its a classic 😮💨
I agree. I posted somewhere once that SSvT is probably the most debated, even more than Superman vs Thor. Surfer and Thor are a great match-up, and I gotta say, IMO, it's in part because Thor fans are some of the most level-headed fans I've had the pleasure of debating with.
Originally posted by LarcenySurfer was almost completely drained by the Sonic Shark in FF#72. He refers to it several times in his own series (as Mr. SlippyBran pointed out).
See above explanation.Fraction of his original power? The only powers taken from Surfer at that time were I believe his time manipulation power. Assuming he only possessed a fraction of his normal is speculation. Not only that, but it's obvious that at the point of the fight, the writer was no longer writing Surfer as if he restrictions were placed upon him.
It is speculation to assume that Surfer was operating under his normal levels during the Thor fight when Surfer has clearly stated in several issues that he is less than he once was.
The first Thor/Surfer fight was a muddy one, that much is not speculation.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Surfer was almost completely drained by the Sonic Shark in FF#72. He refers to it several times in his own series (as Mr. SlippyBran pointed out).It [B]is
speculation to assume that Surfer was operating under his normal levels during the Thor fight when Surfer has clearly stated in several issues that he is less than he once was. [/B]
Originally posted by Mindship
The Surfer's Power Loss: circa 1966 - 1969 (no retcon since)...
1. FF#50: Galactus removes the Surfer's "space-time powers" (first power reduction).
2. FF#72: the sonic shark "almost totally" drains the Surfer of his power (second and most profound power reduction).
3. FF#74: Surfer states (while blasting Galactus' Punisher) that his "...power is but a fraction of what it once had been..."
4. FF#76: Surfer states (while fighting the FF) that he "...no longer possesses the limitless powers of the cosmos..."
5. SS#2, Vol#1: Surfer states (while blasting a giant alien), "Once I might have felled you with a shrug! But, though I am less than before..." (This is just 2 issues before his first fight with Thor).
6. SS#4, Vol#1 (prior to fighting Thor): Surfer fights Loki to a draw. This implies that, at best, Loki could only have doubled Surfer's power in prepping him to fight Thor. This still puts Surfer way below his original power level.When the Surfer states that he's never felt "so powerful, so strangely invincible"; this, in light of the above, is writer's hype.))
Originally posted by LarcenyI understand the sentiment. Unlike the nice objective evidence of on-panel feats/dialogue, PIS, hype, whatever, is more subjective, though some characters seem to have a lot more of it than others.
I find double standards in your post. You acknowledge Surfer's previous statements of feeling less powerful than before yet label his claims to have never felt so powerful as hype? Doesn't seem fair. ❌
Originally posted by AcrosurgeNot that others haven't done their part ... angel_not
Ahem... erm, as Mindship pointed out, Surfer did receive a significant power-down before Loki added to his power prior to the Thor fight.*Begins brain defragment*
Fact 1: If Thor throws his hammer and misses SS then he is lost. For Thor is now a sitting duck that cannot fly while SS blasts him like its no tommorow. If Thor doesn't miss then SS is stunned and Thor would get the hammer back and finish him with a combo until ko. But I say that Thor has a 30% chance of hitting SS per throw (and this is generous). Thus Thor's chances of winning due to a hammer throw are no more than 30%.
Fact2. If Thor doesn't throw the hammer, then what I see is a blasting war between the two. I don't know the outcome of what a blasting war would be between the two though. A guess would be 50% either way.
Fact3: SS can stalemate Thor if he decides to only fight for a stalemate.
He can do this by staying phased for the entire battle.
Fact4: Thor is almost totally dependent on his hammer. So making Thor drop the hammer through a stun hit will result in a win for SS by the reasoning of Fact1.
Since Thor is stupid a good percentage of the time, then it would be CIS if he doesn't try to throw the hammer in more than 5 out of 10 battles. Thus SS wins the majority (if SS doesn't decide on stalemate though).
All in all, Thor is very powerful with that hammer. But take it away and he is orders of magnitude weaker. So the absence of Thor's hammer is his kryptonite. And SS is more than capable of giving Thor his kryptonite.
Originally posted by Larceny
Just something to note...... We've sen how a non retarded, Loki amped, opportunity driven Surfer fought a Thor whom at the time was worried about his surroundings and was holding back. We saw the outcome of the fight. Since that Time Thor has seemingly become more powerful with a change of attitude that may eliminate his need to hold back.What happens if they fight again? A fight where Surfer isn't amped, Thor isn't holding back, and the battle takes place at a neutral site?
For those of us who've read Surfer and Thor's it's obvious Thor wasn't the victor. It's also obvious he was holding back, and briefly incapacitated by his fellow Asgardians whom at times became liabilities. The fight wasn't fair in any sense of the word.
What would happen if the circumstances behind the fight were different? What would happen if Thor wasn't holding back? What would happen if Thor was blood lusted as he would be in a forum battle? What would happen if Surfer wasn't amped by Loki? It's obvious. Eliminating the nuisances would allow him to focus on the task at hand instead of those around him. Being able to fight without restriction would enable him to use his powers in a more intelligent and effective way. Eliminating the outside interference by Loki would have Surfer operating at normal levels. All in all, the fight would be more fair. With all of the above the end result may be the possible change of the outcome of the fight.
Although people despise the Blood and Thunder arc you cannot ignore the content of the arc. Surfer and a host of others were incapable of defeating and or restraining a blood lusted, rage induced Thor. They made their attempts, and failed miserably. Could it have been written better? Of course. Would the premise of the battle be different if written today? Of course. Would the outcome of the battle be any different? I doubt it, at least in Surfer's case. This was the first time we were exposed to the power of a blood lusted Thor. A Thor without restraint or remorse. A Thor whom only wished to bust ass, and well, thats exactly what he did. Fortunately for Thor's case, and my own the forum rules pre determine his mentality, placing him in a blood lusted state, making Warrior Madness an obtainable possibility.
How'd their fight go after Surfer claimed not to be holding back any longer?
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS15.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS16.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS17.jpgHis reflexes may be up to snuff. As for his durability? He should be alright.
Here he takes a bomb thats capable of destroying a planet.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/planetdestruction.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/planetdestruction2.jpgHere the takes the pressure of score of planets.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorAnnual09-29.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorAnnual09-30.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorAnnual09-31.jpgTakes a blast equivalent to an exploding sun.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/journeyintomystery103092bx.jpg
Survives the pressure and heat of the suns core.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/atlantisattackspart13thkr8.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/atlantisattackspart13th4ev.jpgI think his durability will hold up. 😉
Now I've set by and read lets a lot of arguments regarding why each character should be capable of defeating the other. Quite frankly I've seen a lot of poster without knowledge of either character blindly scream Surfer would win. Basically because of the hype surrounding Surfer and other heralds of Galactus. Sure a few posters such as Bran or Goober form strong arguments supporting Surfer's case, but nothing would persuade me in thinking Surfer's capable of taking the majority against Thor. Maybe 3 or 4 wins, or possibly even a split. However the majority? No. Not against a rage induced Thor.
My take on the fight? Possibly Thor 6/10 or even a 5/10 split. At least while operating at levels such as these.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30030le2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30031pw4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30032sw7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30033nn7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30034lv6.jpgSure Thor was killed, but he had a great showings against a Galactus level character.
Lets talk about speed. The speed Surfer doesn't have without his board which has proven to be no so indestructible. In fact it was broken by Durok.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor3.jpgOutside of his his board, I don't think Surfer will be able to use his speed in any way to gain an advantage over Thor.
Power? Thor's power rivals if not eclipses Surfer's. In fact, Surfer admits it himself.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsSurferfirstbattle8.jpg
As for examples of power....
"The fabric of infinity itself starts to shatter"
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thor_432-21.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thor_432-22.jpgA blast capable of tearing the very fabric of the universe.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorelementals1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorelementals2.jpgExitar... (note, Thor has the belt of strength, however through WM he should be capable of duplicating a similar attacks.)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor38809hc7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor38810yh9.jpgThe famous cheap shot hat nearly killed Galactus.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst7.jpgThere is much, much more but this should be enough to get my point across.
Add all those up and you get a beast ass Thor. At least while he's blooslusted and not fighting like an idiot.
Also, did I mention that as of his new series Thor is new longer holding back? Thor not holding back equals an unlucky Surfer. Just look above as he was knocked at for brain refreshment.
As for speed, Thor should be able to find ways around it. He could summon omnidirectional storms, break Surfer's board, summon shields, etc. In fact below is a shield that nullified a bomb capable of destroying 1/5th the universe.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/tricksterpriestsucks04.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Tricksterpriestsucks11.jpgWith massive absorption abilities, unparalleled strength, millions of years of battle experience, exceptional skill and prowess, unrivaled godly power, and a mean right hook(See Surfer ktfo'd above), he should have this battle in the spades.
Of course this is my opinion. Whether or not you agree is irrelevant as I doubt you could sway me to think differently. You're welcome to try, but fail to see any reason to debate against it. So do as you wish, debate until your fingers fall off, but this is my opinion and will remain my opinion. 🙂
I mean, how could a bad ass warrior god lose to a square with metallic skin anyways? 😎
😗
Well... for the first time in months I feel like debating... not little snide comments that turn into me joking around while arguing I guess, etc... and what better way to do this, than to debate over a subject I've never technically debated on. 🙂
Souja thinks his post is good... but we shall see. 🙂
Originally posted by LarcenyThe funny thing that you never stated in this paragraph is that at the same time, Surfer got rid of his board to save BRB's life. 🙂
Just something to note...... We've sen how a non retarded, Loki amped, opportunity driven Surfer fought a Thor whom at the time was worried about his surroundings and was holding back. We saw the outcome of the fight. Since that Time Thor has seemingly become more powerful with a change of attitude that may eliminate his need to hold back.
Surfer was worried about his surroundings at the same time Thor was completely pissed.
Originally posted by LarcenyA fight where Surfer is amped from his last couple fights with Thor.
What happens if they fight again? A fight where Surfer isn't amped, Thor isn't holding back, and the battle takes place at a neutral site?
Thor not holding back increases his speed somehow, on an opponent like Surfer?
I like how you repeatedly pepper this throughout your post, but at the same time, the Asgardians were taken out before Surfer had his way with Thor.
Neutral ground or not, Thor is going down.
Originally posted by Larceny
For those of us who've read Surfer and Thor's it's obvious Thor wasn't the victor. It's also obvious he was holding back, and briefly incapacitated by his fellow Asgardians whom at times became liabilities. The fight wasn't fair in any sense of the word.
And again, the Asgardians were gone when Surfer basically three paged Thor. They were out of the picture, and Thor met Surfer in some sort of rubble.
Originally posted by LarcenyI'll tell you what happens without going into dept... Surfer wins.
What would happen if the circumstances behind the fight were different? What would happen if Thor wasn't holding back? What would happen if Thor was blood lusted as he would be in a forum battle? What would happen if Surfer wasn't amped by Loki? It's obvious. Eliminating the nuisances would allow him to focus on the task at hand instead of those around him. Being able to fight without restriction would enable him to use his powers in a more intelligent and effective way. Eliminating the outside interference by Loki would have Surfer operating at normal levels. Basically the fight would be more fair. With all of the above the end result may be the possible change of the outcome of the fight.
Originally posted by LarcenyYou just said it could have been written better, and then at the same time, continuously use that arc as an accurate gauge for Thor vs Surfer. Please.
Although people despise the Blood and Thunder arc you cannot ignore the content of the arc. Surfer and a host of others were incapable of defeating and restraining a blood lusted, rage induced Thor. They made their attempts, and failed miserably. Could it have been written better? Of course. Would the premise of the battle be different if written today? Of course. Would the outcome of the battle be any different? I doubt it, at least in Surfer's case. This was the first time we were exposed to the power of a blood lusted Thor. A Thor without restraint or remorse. A Thor whom only wished to bust ass, and well, thats what he did. Fortunately for Thor's case, and my own the forum rules pre determine his mentality, placing him in a blood lusted state, making Warrior Madness an obtainable possibility.
Actually... that was the second time we were exposed to it... and the first time we were exposed to it, he had more trouble with Adam Warlock back in his old days.
Originally posted by LarcenyI believe I've explained why that's bad writing.
How'd their fight go after Surfer claimed not to be holding back any longer?http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS15.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS16.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS17.jpg
Do you honestly believe that's how Surfer would have fought minus terrible writing?
Originally posted by LarcenyWait... where have you proved his reflexes were up to snuff? You've said a statement, and used a fight that's about as good of writing as the time when Spider-Man speedblitzed Masterson Thor... no wait, as good of writing as when Thor was shot by a handgun, and KO'ed.
His reflexes may be up to snuff. As for his durability? He should be alright.Here he takes a bomb thats capable of destroying a planet.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/planetdestruction.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/planetdestruction2.jpgHere the takes the pressure of score of planets.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorAnnual09-29.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorAnnual09-30.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorAnnual09-31.jpgTakes a blast equivalent to an exploding sun.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/journeyintomystery103092bx.jpg
Survives the pressure and heat of the suns core.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/atlantisattackspart13thkr8.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/atlantisattackspart13th4ev.jpgI think his durability will hold up. 😉
You do realize that it clearly explains how Thor was able to take that bomb on-panel right? It was because he was traveling too fast for it to have any effect.
And while that's a good feat, Thor was the one who said he was being crushed with that weight. Thor knows how much pressure a score of planets has?
That holds about as much merit as Sentry having the power of a million exploding suns... except Sentry has multiple confirmations in almost every appearance.
Although, I like how Thor says he has unlimited strength in the same page... and well, that's not true at all.
Nevermind the fact that that may or may not be him in a sort of bubble... but that proves Surfer can't hurt him... how? Didn't Surfer make a black hole out of his raw power... twice? Certainly enough to hurt Thor...
Plus, all of the hundreds of times Thor's been hurt by far less. Ya know.
Originally posted by LarcenyWhat? Punching 2000 feet tall giants?
My take on the fight? Possibly Thor 6/10 or even a 5/10 split. At least while operating at levels such as these.http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30030le2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30031pw4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30032sw7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30033nn7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30034lv6.jpgSure Thor was killed, but he had a great showings against a Galactus level character.
Nevermind the horrible writing...
In the same issue (it's been a while, so I may be wrong, but I know for a fact it was the same arc) Odin, Zeus, and Vishnu shoot all of their power at a Celestial and manage to barely get his attention... Thor did more damage against six Celestials than three Skyfathers did against one...
Do you believe this? Honest answer.
Originally posted by LarcenyNow, first off, you've never proven how Thor would hit him.
Lets talk about speed. The speed Surfer doesn't have without his board which has proven to be no so indestructible. In fact it was broken by Durok.http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/BetaThor3.jpg
The mere fact that Thor has to catch Surfer in a handlock, while he holds him until he has time to fire off his blast kind of makes that silly... especially since Surfer could destroy the planet, and knock Thor away at the same time.
Plus, that attack is kind of a hit or miss type attack. If it works, Surfer's done. If it doesn't, then Thor is automatically weakened, and Surfer is either OK, or weakened. At which point, if he's weakened, he can regain his strength hundreds of times faster than Thor.
I know about Durok's durability, and yes he's powerful, but how exactly would it work against Surfer? I mean, his metal like skin, would it actually even hurt him?
Originally posted by Larceny
Outside of his his board, I don't think Surfer will be able to use his speed in any way to gain an advantage over Thor.
Originally posted by LarcenySo? Even going by this, you've acknowledged that Thor has to tag Surfer in this fight... you haven't proven this, so what good is your power being roughly even, when you can't hit your opponent?
Power? Thor's power rivals if not eclipses Surfer's. In fact, Surfer admits it himself.http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsSurferfirstbattle8.jpg
Plus, Surfer has gotten like two power ups since then... and before it gets brought up, Surfer was talking purely about his cosmic force... not Loki's added power. With Loki's power, he was more powerful. 🙂
Originally posted by LarcenyNot only do all of these attacks take a lot of time to build up, they are all against opponents who aren't fighting back, and all of them except one are against people over 20 feet high, two one thousand tall guys, and one 20 000 foot tall guy. How exactly did you make the connection from Exitar to Surfer?
As for examples of power...."The fabric of infinity itself starts to shatter"
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thor_432-21.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thor_432-22.jpgA blast capable of tearing the very fabric of the universe.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorelementals1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorelementals2.jpgExitar... (note, Thor has the belt of strength, however through WM he should be capable of duplicating a similar attacks.)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor38809hc7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor38810yh9.jpgThe famous cheap shot hat nearly killed Galactus.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst7.jpgThere is much, much more but this should be enough to get my point across.
Also, talk about one time use powers for the win...
Originally posted by LarcenyAnd make those fights relevant to a Surfer vs Thor fight, and that only leaves one option... and that's that Surfer is fighting like a complete moron.
Add all those up and you get a beast ass Thor. At least while he's blooslusted and not fighting like an idiot.Also, did I mention that as of his new series Thor is new longer holding back? Thor not holding back equals an unlucky Surfer. Just look above as he was knocked at for brain refreshment.
And Surfer's not holding back either... very interesting.
Originally posted by LarcenyOmnidirectional STORMS? Um... that's not going to work, I'll tell you that right now. Besides the pis of the Storm feat... heat doesn't effect Surfer too much. He's went through the sun feeling refreshed. He's taken a cosmic heat bolt from Korvac that would have destroyed a planet with no effect. Unless he's going to make it rain... then Surfer might be in trouble...
As for speed, Thor should be able to find ways around it. He could summon omnidirectional storms, break Surfer's board, summon shields, etc. In fact below is a shield that nullified a bomb capable of destroying 1/5th the universe.http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/tricksterpriestsucks04.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Tricksterpriestsucks11.jpg
Break Surfer's board? With what? His magical TK, and with his strength as high as Durok's?
Anyway...
http://img429.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor193250fz.jpg
And if Thor manages to completely destroy it...
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9127/annihilationsilversurfedz7.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9393/annihilationsilversurfeeq6.jpg
He's going to hide behind shields? Great way to get around someone's speed...
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
What? Punching 2000 feet tall giants?
That might be relevant in a thread where you didn't acknowledge that the other character would be using his speed in the fight, and Thor would have to tag him...Nevermind the horrible writing...
In the same issue (it's been a while, so I may be wrong, but I know for a fact it was the same arc) Odin, Zeus, and Vishnu shoot all of their power at a Celestial and manage to barely get his attention... Thor did more damage against six Celestials than three Skyfathers did against one...
Do you believe this? Honest answer.Now, first off, you've never proven how Thor would hit him.
Second, how bringing up Durok breaking his board is beyond me. In the same appearance, Thor got shit stomped by Durok, and Surfer ended up KO'ing Durok... with his speed. 😐The mere fact that Thor has to catch Surfer in a handlock, while he holds him until he has time to fire off his blast kind of makes that silly... especially since Surfer could destroy the planet, and knock Thor away at the same time.
Plus, that attack is kind of a hit or miss type attack. If it works, Surfer's done. If it doesn't, then Thor is automatically weakened, and Surfer is either OK, or weakened. At which point, if he's weakened, he can regain his strength hundreds of times faster than Thor.I know about Durok's durability, and yes he's powerful, but how exactly would it work against Surfer? I mean, his metal like skin, would it actually even hurt him?
You'd thinks so... wouldn't you?
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7940/story2page01combatwa4.jpgSo? Even going by this, you've acknowledged that Thor has to tag Surfer in this fight... you haven't proven this, so what good is your power being roughly even, when you can't hit your opponent?
Plus, Surfer has gotten like two power ups since then... and before it gets brought up, Surfer was talking purely about his cosmic force... not Loki's added power. With Loki's power, he was more powerful. 🙂
Not only do all of these attacks take a lot of time to build up, they are all against opponents who aren't fighting back, and all of them except one are against people over 20 feet high, two one thousand tall guys, and one 20 000 foot tall guy.
Also, talk about one time use powers for the win...
And make those fights relevant to a Surfer vs Thor fight, and that only leaves one option... and that's that Surfer is fighting like a complete moron.
And Surfer's not holding back either... very interesting.
Omnidirectional STORMS? Um... that's not going to work, I'll tell you that right now. Besides the pis of the Storm feat... heat doesn't effect Surfer too much. Unless he's going to make it rain... then Surfer might be in trouble...
Break Surfer's board? With what? His magical TK, and with his strength as high as Durok's?
Anyway...
http://img429.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor193250fz.jpgAnd if Thor manages to completely destroy it...
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9393/annihilationsilversurfeeq6.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9393/annihilationsilversurfeeq6.jpgHe's going to hide behind shields? Great way to get around someone's speed...
What's the point? BTW, you lied. ✅
