spider- man vs daredevil

Started by Cosmo Kramer34 pages

How is Spider-man better at dodging punches? DareDevil has caught bullets before and blocked them. Are you saying that Spidey is faster then a bullet. Or a machine gun? Especially when DD is up against shotguns. Those shells spread everywhere. When has Spidey ever caught a bullet before or outran one?

Originally posted by willRules
when talking in terms of speed who is faster with superhuman speed? spidey

Thats nulled because DD's senses allow him to hit Spidey as well as dodge him. Running yea, but in terms of fighting, theres really not much of an advantage.

Originally posted by willRules
when talking in terms of strength who is stronger with superhuman strength?
spidey

Once again strength doesnt = win in fights. Spideys stronger obviously, but hed never land a good enough hit on DD.

Originally posted by willRules
superhuman reflexes?
spidey

The reflexes are about the same. No real advantage there.

Originally posted by willRules
who is better at dodging?
spidey

Thats all a matter of opinion. I think they are equal.

Originally posted by willRules
Plus like Daredevil himself said, spidey is alot stronger and faster and DD can barely keep track of him. DD has to hit spidey numerous times to stand a chance of KOing him. its possible but very unlikely. Spidey has to hit DD once for a knockout. Its very likely.

DD has to hit Spidey numerous times to ko him, yet Spidey cant get a good enough hit to ko DD either. He also needs numerous hits on DD.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
When has Spidey ever caught a bullet before or outran one?

Why would Spider-Man try to catch a bullet if he can simply dodge it ? 😕

(Oh and he recently caught a bullet with his hand although a second later there was a big gap in his hand, and he fainted lol).

Oh, something else...

Still think reflexes and speed are about the same ?

He caught the other bullet, but not the second one.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Still think reflexes and speed are about the same ?

Yep.

A bloodlusted Spidey is a sloppy Spidey.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Oh, something else...

Did DD get knocked out afer that punch? What happeneed next?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Yep.


Hmmm

Strange evidence : a 35 years old comic in which DD himself admits SM is too strong for him (SM didn't even use his webs btw).

Have you actually read my scan ? If you had, we don't need to argue anymore about the speed.

A non cis spidey wins 10/10

Originally posted by who?-kid
Hmmm

Strange evidence : a 35 years old comic in which DD himself admits SM is too strong for him (SM didn't even use his webs btw).

Have you actually read my scan ? If you had, we don't need to argue anymore about the speed.

Daredevil always admits when someone is faster or stronger than him. Does he get ko'd? Can you show that he does? Spidey didnt use the webbing because he knows it would be useless against DD.

Ive read your scan. Did you read mine? Spidey says "No matter how fast i am, he manages to roll with the blow! I havent landed a real solid punch yet!"

Meaning he wasnt able to land a strong enough hit to ko DD.

DD on the other hand already ko'd Spidey's ass. And even then he admitted that if he let up, Spidey would cream him. However, that didnt happen and Spidey was ko'd on the floor.

Originally posted by thesilverspider
A non cis spidey wins 10/10

With a non cis DD, Spidey would never hit him. Cant say one without saying the other.

Originally posted by jrodslam
With a non cis DD, Spidey would never hit him. Cant say one without saying the other.

how you figure spidey would never hit him? spidey is way faster then him, dd can't dodge spidey forever plus with the use of the webbing dd goes down hard.

Originally posted by thesilverspider
how you figure spidey would never hit him? spidey is way faster then him, dd can't dodge spidey forever plus with the use of the webbing dd goes down hard.

A non cis DD, predicts movements before they are completed. Sometimes before even being started. Much like the scan who?-Kid showed. However it was complete cis because DD knew what Spidey was going to do, yet couldnt dodge? And DD dodges rapid gun fire on a norm? That was put in there to allow for a better fight. Like in other fights, even if DD gets tagged, hes still able to roll with the punch and give a counter attack. Webbing? Thats nothing to DD.

Originally posted by jrodslam
A non cis DD, predicts movements before they are completed. Sometimes before even being started. Much like the scan who?-Kid showed. However it was complete cis because DD knew what Spidey was going to do, yet couldnt dodge? And DD dodges rapid gun fire on a norm? That was put in there to allow for a better fight. Like in other fights, even if DD gets tagged, hes still able to roll with the punch and give a counter attack. Webbing? Thats nothing to DD.

webbing is nothing to dd.😕

even spidey don't know what he's doing next when reacting to the spider-sense.

counter attack is what spidey does best.

also don't bring up dodging bullets we all know who's the best at that. 😉

Originally posted by jrodslam
A non cis DD, predicts movements before they are completed. Sometimes before even being started. Much like the scan who?-Kid showed. However it was complete cis because DD knew what Spidey was going to do, yet couldnt dodge? And DD dodges rapid gun fire on a norm? That was put in there to allow for a better fight. Like in other fights, even if DD gets tagged, hes still able to roll with the punch and give a counter attack. Webbing? Thats nothing to DD.
He "predicts" what is happening next due to some skill and relying on his senses, this is not nor is it precognition however.

His webbing has a tensile strength of 120,000 lbs a meter. So its very much so something to DD, the biggest mistake is to treat this like a comic book where the goodguys always tie.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Thats nulled because DD's senses allow him to hit Spidey as well as dodge him. Running yea, but in terms of fighting, theres really not much of an advantage.

Nope. Spidey's speed in in the superhuman league, DD is peak human at best. And its only as nulled as you claim. DD senses tell him who is where, like feeling 360 degrees all around him at the same time. That only goes so far against an opponent who is faster than you has better reflexes (yes his reflexes are better, they are in the superhuman league) and just need to hit you once to win.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Once again strength doesnt = win in fights. Spideys stronger obviously, but hed never land a good enough hit on DD.

actually spidey has hit DD before. He only has to hit him once to win. DD has to hit spidey loads to stand a chance of winning, whereas spidey with superhuman physical attributes can dodge and hit all day.

Originally posted by jrodslam
The reflexes are about the same. No real advantage there.

Nope. spider-man has superhuman reflexes whereas DD has peak human reflexes. again spidey is better physically

Originally posted by jrodslam
Thats all a matter of opinion. I think they are equal.

Spidey is better than daredevil in every physical attribute which = him being better than daredevil in terms of dodging. The spider-sense means its even easier for him to dodge DD.

Originally posted by jrodslam
DD has to hit Spidey numerous times to ko him, yet Spidey cant get a good enough hit to ko DD either. He also needs numerous hits on DD.

spidey needs to hit DD once to KO him. DD needs to hit spidey numerous times to hope to KO him. Spidey is better every way physically and is a borderline precog.

Webbing and the billy club means they are both equal in terms of range.

The only advantage DD has is his enhanced sense will mean he will smell defeat just as spidey's fist knocks him out or worse.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Webbing? Thats nothing to DD.

😆 thats a joke right? 😕

webbing has held characters like the blob, rogue or the Hulk

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He "predicts" what is happening next due to some skill and relying on his senses, this is not nor is it precognition however.

His webbing has a tensile strength of 120,000 lbs a meter. So its very much so something to DD, the biggest mistake is to treat this like a comic book where the goodguys always tie.

Hed predicts things due to momentum, angles and velocity. Thus he does know where things would end up, such as bullets, punches etc. Hes usually right in his predictions 9/10. To his opponent, it would be like precog.

Spideys webbing is tough. Im not saying that its not. It would be something to DD IF he were to get caught in it. Thats not very likely and thats what i was referring to. Not IF DD gets caught with the webbing it would be nothing to him.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Hed predicts things due to momentum, angles and velocity. Thus he does know where things would end up, such as bullets, punches etc. Hes usually right in his predictions 9/10. To his opponent, it would be like precog.
Its really more or less super hearing and smell, that way he can detect a pin drop, or a person's movement. I understand what you mean, but he still lacks the physicality.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Spideys webbing is tough. Im not saying that its not. It would be something to DD IF he were to get caught in it. Thats not very likely and thats what i was referring to. Not IF DD gets caught with the webbing it would be nothing to him.
The webbing is like a waterhose not a bullet, and it is faster. Spiderman has held faster, AND stronger characters with it.