spider- man vs daredevil

Originally posted by jrodslam
Hed predicts things due to momentum, angles and velocity. Thus he does know where things would end up, such as bullets, punches etc. Hes usually right in his predictions 9/10. To his opponent, it would be like precog.

so he would be able to predict the fact that spidey was about to hit him in the face? even if he was would he be fast enough to do something about it? spidey is the faster one in this fight, with better reflexes, strength, agility and boderline precog.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Spideys webbing is tough. Im not saying that its not. It would be something to DD IF he were to get caught in it. Thats not very likely and thats what i was referring to. Not IF DD gets caught with the webbing it would be nothing to him.

You think DD can dodge spideys webbing and his fists? despite the fact spidey is clearly faster, more agile and much better reflexes?

Originally posted by willRules
Nope. Spidey's speed in in the superhuman league, DD is peak human at best. And its only as nulled as you claim. DD senses tell him who is where, like feeling 360 degrees all around him at the same time. That only goes so far against an opponent who is faster than you has better reflexes (yes his reflexes are better, they are in the superhuman league) and just need to hit you once to win.

DD's senses tell him who is where as well as what theyre going to do. As fast as an opponent may be, DD still knows whats going on and is still able to roll with the move whether it be punch or kick. Spidey just needs to hit DD once to win? Spidey has hit DD plenty of times. People stronger than Spidey has hit DD. The reason for not getting ko'd is being able to predict and roll with the moves. There hasnt been not 1 time that Spidey has ko'd DD with a punch. Has he even ko'd DD ever? Not that ive heard of.

Originally posted by willRules
actually spidey has hit DD before. He only has to hit him once to win. DD has to hit spidey loads to stand a chance of winning, whereas spidey with superhuman physical attributes can dodge and hit all day.

Re-read all my posts. Ive never said that Spidey never hit DD before. Why would i say that and its been shown already. I said that Spidey cant land a good enough hit to ko DD.

Originally posted by willRules
Nope. spider-man has superhuman reflexes whereas DD has peak human reflexes. again spidey is better physically.

Due to the senses, DD has superhuman reflexes as well.

Originally posted by willRules
Spidey is better than daredevil in every physical attribute which = him being better than daredevil in terms of dodging. The spider-sense means its even easier for him to dodge DD.

Spideys physical attribues have nothing to do with his dodge abilities. Maybe the agility and speed, but thats it. Yes the Spidey-Sense helps extra. DD also has high agility and speed and his radar to help, so its easier for him to dodge as well.

Originally posted by willRules
spidey needs to hit DD once to KO him. DD needs to hit spidey numerous times to hope to KO him. Spidey is better every way physically and is a borderline precog.

Has Spidey ever ko'd DD with 1 hit? Spidey need to land a GOOD hit to ko DD. That wouldnt happen. DD really only need s1 hit to paralyze Spidey. That has nothing to do with strength. Its a touch. Spidey needs his strength to ko DD.

Originally posted by willRules
Webbing and the billy club means they are both equal in terms of range.

Neither of them would use their range weapons because it would be useless. They wouldnt be able to tag each other. Thats unless Spideys bloodlusted thus making hm sloppy.

I want to point out that strength assists his agility in this case...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Its really more or less super hearing and smell, that way he can detect a pin drop, or a person's movement. I understand what you mean, but he still lacks the physicality.

Well hes actually able to see things via radar as they cut through the air. Thats nothing to do with hearing or smell.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The webbing is like a waterhose not a bullet, and it is faster. Spiderman has held faster, AND stronger characters with it.

Spideys webbing isnt faster than a bullet. The Spidey-Sense puts him on alert of the bullet. That allows him to react.

Does Daredevil have a vibranium suit or something? He's taken hits from hulk, namor, Mr. Hyde and other super strong chracters without being killed.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Has Spidey ever ko'd DD with 1 hit? Spidey need to land a GOOD hit to ko DD. That wouldnt happen. DD really only need s1 hit to paralyze Spidey. That has nothing to do with strength. Its a touch. Spidey needs his strength to ko DD.

DD on the other hand always fights with everything he's got.

Here, in these vs-threads, we throw CIS and PIS out of the window, and discuss a fight between the two characters based on their feats and more importantly, based on their stats.

I do agree that DD is a better fighter, but it's the only point I give to him, because Spider-Man outclasses DD on every physical level, from strength to speed, from reflexes to durability, from weapons to agility.

Originally posted by AcousticDoc
Does Daredevil have a vibranium suit or something? He's taken hits from hulk, namor, Mr. Hyde and other super strong chracters without being killed.

Hyde is a joke and Namor pulls his punches (I don't know his exact strength level but he is at least class 75 out of the water).

Originally posted by willRules
so he would be able to predict the fact that spidey was about to hit him in the face? even if he was would he be fast enough to do something about it? spidey is the faster one in this fight, with better reflexes, strength, agility and boderline precog.

Yes hed would predict Spidey was going to try to punch him in the face. And yes he would be fast enought to do something about it which is roll with the punch to reduce effectiveness. Spidey as naturally faster and stronger, but DD's senses allow him to keep up with him. DD's senses>Spidey-sense.

Originally posted by willRules
You think DD can dodge spideys webbing and his fists? despite the fact spidey is clearly faster, more agile and much better reflexes?

I think DD can dodge the webbing way better than the punches, but make Spidey's hits less effective.

jrodslam

are you actually wondering why spider-man hasn't KO'd DD with one of his 15 ton punches. It's the same reason he doesn't knock a robbers head off. He holds back considerably when facing those he sees as normal humans.

And even though DD has his Radar sense it is nothing compared to the Spider-sense. spider-sens is actually a form of telapathy. actual precog.

And yes DD has peak human reflexes. his senses and radar sense help him alot but their not superhuman. their peak human. the chemicals isotope affected his eyes and senses. they didn't transform his whole body.

And spideys dodging abilities are a combination of his spidey sense and his speed and agility. You think a normal human even with the help of the spidey sense would be able to dodge sub machine gun fire from all directions. Just knowing were their going to hit doesn't mean you'll be able to avoid the bullets if your not fast enough or agile enough to move out of the way.

spider-man is faster more ,agile, stronger and the spider-sense is better than the radar sense. And spidey can just web him up. it's probably the first thin he'll do. combined with his Superior speed hitting someone like DD is really easy.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Well hes actually able to see things via radar as they cut through the air. Thats nothing to do with hearing or smell.

Spideys webbing isnt faster than a bullet. The Spidey-Sense puts him on alert of the bullet. That allows him to react.

If spiderman can throw a punch as hard as a truck how come he never kills Doc Ock? The guy is very flabby and useless without his metal legs. But spiderman always goes all out and hits him several times dead on in the face.

Originally posted by who?-kid
What you don't seem to understand, is that both DD and SM have to look cool while fighting each other, the writers don't want to upset the fans ! That's why SM almost never uses his webs against DD and always holds back.

DD on the other hand always fights with everything he's got.

Here, in these vs-threads, we throw CIS and PIS out of the window, and discuss a fight between the two characters based on their feats and more importantly, based on their stats.

I do agree that DD is a better fighter, but it's the only point I give to him, because Spider-Man outclasses DD on every physical level, from strength to speed, from reflexes to durability, from weapons to agility.

When Spidey and DD fight, Spidey doesnt use webbing cause he knows he cant tag DD. He holds back because hed get wreckless if going all out.

DD gives everything hes got in terms of strength, but not in terms of skills. One hit with a deathblow or nerve hit and Spidey goes down.

In these vs threads i know cis and pis is out the window and we should go off feats more or less. However naturally Spidey would have more feats than DD, and we all know that stats meant squat when it comes to the actual battle. If were going by statistics and feats, Spidey wins ofcourse. However in batle with DD its completly another battle field.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Yes hed would predict Spidey was going to try to punch him in the face. And yes he would be fast enought to do something about it which is roll with the punch to reduce effectiveness. Spidey as naturally faster and stronger, but DD's senses allow him to keep up with him. DD's senses>Spidey-sense.

I think DD can dodge the webbing way better than the punches, but make Spidey's hits less effective.

spidey sense>>>DD senses when it comes to dodging and precog.

You really think DD can dodge his webing. I don't think so. sp is faster and has hit people much faster than DD.

This is a VS.match where the characters are not holding back.

that being said DD has his head punched off in less than a couple of minutes.

i probably one of the biggest DD fans on these boards but even I don't think he's faster or has better precog than Spider-man.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
If spiderman can throw a punch as hard as a truck how come he never kills Doc Ock? The guy is very flabby and useless without his metal legs. But spiderman always goes all out and hits him several times dead on in the face.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
If spiderman can throw a punch as hard as a truck how come he never kills Doc Ock? The guy is very flabby and useless without his metal legs. But spiderman always goes all out and hits him several times dead on in the face.

He never goes all out on anyone except on people that can take it. He has trouble dodging his arms. But when he can get past it he ussaly knocks him out with one punch

Originally posted by jrodslam
Yes hed would predict Spidey was going to try to punch him in the face. And yes he would be fast enought to do something about it which is roll with the punch to reduce effectiveness. Spidey as naturally faster and stronger, but DD's senses allow him to keep up with him. DD's senses>Spidey-sense.

Oh Im sorry i didn't realise DD had superhuman speed which meant he could dodge opponents who are much faster than him. Oh no, wait. he can't.

DD sense don't allow him to keep up with spidey, he mentions that all the time. DD might be able to knock a bullet out of the air but spider-man dodges bullets literally without thinking about it.

DD isn't fast enough, quick enough, strong enough or good enough at dodging to hold his own in a fight with spidey. The example you showed was conviently spidey at his worst and Daredevil fighting for his life.

Originally posted by jrodslam
When Spidey and DD fight, Spidey doesnt use webbing cause he knows he cant tag DD. He holds back because hed get wreckless if going all out.

DD gives everything hes got in terms of strength, but not in terms of skills. One hit with a deathblow or nerve hit and Spidey goes down.

In these vs threads i know cis and pis is out the window and we should go off feats more or less. However naturally Spidey would have more feats than DD, and we all know that stats meant squat when it comes to the actual battle. If were going by statistics and feats, Spidey wins ofcourse. However in batle with DD its completly another battle field.

has that ever been stated that he knows that he can't hit DD with his webbing. Or are you just making shit up.

Name the issue where Spider-man states that.

DareDevil can win even when spidey is at his best. It is much harder but he can.

Originally posted by willRules
Oh Im sorry i didn't realise DD had superhuman speed which meant he could dodge opponents who are much faster than him. Oh no, wait. he can't.

DD sense don't allow him to keep up with spidey, he mentions that all the time. DD might be able to knock a bullet out of the air but spider-man dodges bullets literally without thinking about it.

DD isn't fast enough, quick enough, strong enough or good enough at dodging to hold his own in a fight with spidey. The example you showed was conviently spidey at his worst and Daredevil fighting for his life.

If I remember correctly DD even states in the match where he's fighting the angry not thinking strait Spider-man that if he was really thinking strait that spider-man could simply knock his head off.

Originally posted by jrodslam
In these vs threads i know cis and pis is out the window and we should go off feats more or less. However naturally Spidey would have more feats than DD, and we all know that stats meant squat when it comes to the actual battle. If were going by statistics and feats, Spidey wins ofcourse. However in batle with DD its completly another battle field.

stats don't mean squat when it comes to the battle? Yeah 🙄 It only tells us who is faster, stronger, better agility, reflexes, or is the only reason you said stats don't count is cos it shows spidey is better? 😉