Agnostics or Atheists

I'm Catholic, and am a believer.
I go to church and go to a catholic high school, those things I can't say much about, but I choose to believe that there is a God, and later Heaven.

I'm at that stage right now where I don't know what to believe. I used to think there was a god, then I swore up and down that there wasn't.

Now I'm not to sure.

Ah, sigh yourself. My opinion stands, no matter how uppity you word your post.

Read what I said again. It doesnt disprove what you say, it just shows you didn't get what I said.

Its all man made. Its all subjective. What proof do we have that science has it right, besides all those high falutin formulas and 'laws'? Mathematics and physics are all well and good, but what do they explain that hasn't been explained some other way in ages past...and that will probably be re-thought and re-explained in some other way some day in the future?

I'm not anti-science, quite the opposite. I just think its another case of gigantic human egos needing to explain, and thereby own, everything that exists.

Thats the great thing about opinion and faith, they are both only as strong as the will you have to believe in them.

You have faith that gravity keeps you planted on the ground just as a Christian has faith that he will go to Heaven if he's good.

Actually, Creechur, I read what you said just fine. You just seem to be unaware what proof actually is, and how science works. Luckily, the folly of your position is pretty self-evident from what you wrote.

Creechuur> I beg to differ. ‘God’ didn’t become ‘Darwin” or any other scientist. The big difference between science and religion is the absence of proof. The advert of science was our ability to explain – rationally – what we saw around us in nature, and to make predictions based on those observations. To test nature, and make those tests available for everyone.

What proof do we have that science is real? Your computer works whether you believe it will or not, no? 😉

Science is based on the one assumption that nature is indeed explainable by human beings. And seeing the progress science has given us this assumption seems to be a valid one. It is not faith in gravity that keeps me on the Earth. My mass and the mass of the Earth took care of that, long before I could HAVE any faith in gravity… And you won’t fall off the planet if you stop believing in gravity. Try disbelieving in electricity and see if it goes away…
Done?
See?

You don't have to believe in science, it works regardless. But I'm still to see the slightest piece of evidece any divine beings exists.

God doesn't exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Omega man, was the missing link between man and chimp ever found? I haven't come across a genuine record of it, though it is most likely due to the lack of variety in my experience 🙄

I've always wondered, if we evolved from primates, then why do we still have them around?

Yeah, the evolution theory is pretty sketchy isn't it. There must be a different more complex explanation.

Yeah I know that.

Originally posted by Arahael
Is anybody here an agnostic or an atheist? Me? I'm an agnostic. I think that there is a slight chnace that there may be a higher power, but right now it seems pretty unlikely. I'm gonna need some proof before I go back to believin'. Anyone else?

MO agnostic is perfectly plausible, but atheism assumes that the atheist knows everything.

Originally posted by Arahael
God doesn't exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Why don't we talk in a philosophical way. What do you define as existence?

God doesn't exist.

But then, maybe I don't exist either 😄

No, just God.

But if god doesnt exist, then how can we be talking about him. He might not exist in reality, but he exists in peoples imagination, so he does exist at least a little bit.

^I like that! That's interesting! 😄

You are talking about solipsism

Originally posted by Arahael
I've always wondered, if we evolved from primates, then why do we still have them around?

The entire theory of evolution is scientifically and mathematically incorrect.