Vader Vs. Dr. Doom

Vader loses his suit he DIES.

I recall hearing on many accounts that Doom can kill a lion with his bare hands. And are you basing your opinion on Doom without his suit? 'Cause I don't think he takes it off.

Im saying that the base of Dooms powers come from his suit. Kinda like Iron Man. After awhile he will fade.

What? I wonder if Vader can block a full blast from Doom like he did to Warlock in Infinity Wars. Doom punked Warlock in the fight. Vader ain't going to block a full blast that engulfs his entire self.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Im saying that the base of Dooms powers come from his suit. Kinda like Iron Man. After awhile he will fade.

Ironman's suits are powered by collecting "beta particles" though. Like a solar panel constantly in the sun I think.

I read the Ultimates and in that series Iron mans power runs out and he needs to be recharded.

Dooms suit runs on nuclear power.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Dr. Doom has to rely on his suit for his powers to work. Without it he is a slapnut. Darth vader has the force at his call. He could crush his throat without even being near him. Then mix in his Jedi Training and Lightsaber. I dont think Doom has a very good chance at winning this one. Vaders reflexes and senses are so much better that it wouldnt even be a fair fight. I mean come on he can block Laser bolts with his bare hands. And plus he can see things before they happen. No contest here. My opinion of course.

You obviously didn't read the rest of the thread. You just took the argument back to the beginning.

Besides, you are also obviously ignorant to the fact that Doom is a sorcerer, and actually no, he doesn't need the suit.

No I didnt read the rest of the thread. Like I have that much fricking time. And by the way Doom is not a sorceror. He just has a vast knowledge of the Mystic arts. All of his weapons are built into his suit.

Vader dies without his suit, so what's your point. Doom's suit runs on nuclear power.

My point is Doom is not a sorceror and he dont have powers without his suit. was it that hard to figure out?

Vader most certainly can block a 'full blast' even before it engulfs himself. You greatly underestimate his powers.

Doom doesn't need his suit though, and he IS a sorcerer. He learned his magic from gypsies. The suit is just a power-up, it contains gadgets and energy blasts, but it's not the source of his magic.

Doom not a sorcerer huh? I guess he just used his suit to run second place with Dr. Strange for the position of Sorcerer Supreme didn't he?

Doom IS a sorcerer. Doom doesn't need his suit, although it is quite convient for him. And against someone like Vader, he will be wearing it so saying he's nothing without the suit is pretty pointless anyways. In that case, let's them fight without both of their suits. Oh wait, is that Vader choking to death over there? Oops, he just dropped. Oh well, Doom wins by forfeit then.😂

Doom's "weapon" of choice is science so you don't see him use his mystical powers much in comics but it's there. Doom vs Vader is a no brainer. That saber of his gets blasted into oblivion the moment the fight begins.

You can't have the fight be without their suits, that's not fair, lol. Besides, Vader was training himself to breathe without the suit via the Force, and he got up to like 10 minutes or so before he had to put it back on. That's pretty damn impressive, inflating your lungs for 10 minutes. Ths is not a no brainer Ms. Von Doom. Your father, husband, brother, cousin, whatever is impressive no doubt. But he is not going to just blast the lightsaber into oblivion. Vader is more powerful than Doom despite his mystical abilities, while he is certainly not as smart, he is still capable of taking this fight. Again, if it's in Latveria or someplace where Doom has time to build all sorts of weapons, he's screwed. But if Doom is transported to Coruscant or onto the Executor, Vader takes this.

Vader is overestimated. This is just my opinion, Vader lovers, and yes, he was very cool in the movies, but to be honest, he was not THAT impressive. I know the writers of the Star Wars novels augmented his powers a bit to become more powerful, but still, no match against Doom...

Doom has humiliated or defeated cosmic beings who can annihilate entire jedi-armies
Doom's armour is sooo much more powerful than that of Vader (which is more a life support system)
Doom has access to magic
Doom is probably stronger, definitely more strong-willed and smarter.

Vader has his light sabre (run Doom run) and the Force, but he has not full and endless access to the Force (and I've always found the Force a bit slow).

Doom has the better cards : four of a kind. Vader only one pair.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
My point is Doom is not a sorceror and he dont have powers without his suit. was it that hard to figure out?

Yes, yes he is. His mother was a witch, so first of all, it's in his blood. Secondly, Dr. Strange himself trained Doom, AND Doom is next in line for the title of Sorcerer Supreme, the title held by the great Stephen Strange.

I don't think home court advantage plays a part in this, wrathofachilles. It doesn't matter if this fight happened in Latveria or Coruscant or the Death Star. Vader doesn't have any real way of harming Doom. It'd be more of a fight if Vader had the Emperor on his side and even then I'd still give the advantage to Doom. 🤣

How large is that room they are thrown into? Vader can force choke doom from miles away...

Doom is phisicaly stronger, with his suit on he can lift about 2 tones. Vader gest some str boost from his armor as well, but i doubt he can lift that. Vader could block energy blasts, laser blasts or whatever blasts with his bare hands, but it has limits, i don't think it could stop Doom's arsenal. As for speed, even though we haven't seen anyof it in the original trilogy, Jedi's can get a decent speed boost from the force, Vader included.

Doom is smarter, but can't predit the futur or predict Vaders move in advance, as Vader can.

I dunno, im tempted to say Doom would have the last word...

I'd say Vader's force choke is basically telekinesis which Doom is protected from. I think.