Vader Vs. Dr. Doom

THANK GOD we finaly ended that little 'han's laser' thing that was a pain in the ass and i have to agree with centurai on that point the force and telekinises are very similar except for one thing the power doesn't come from the mind , so to re-cap they are exactly the same just a different power source.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well it all depends on what we've already established. You believe that A) The force is that strong and B) Doom's suit is able to be ripped of by it.

Moving objects via a force is no different than doing it with telekinesis.

-AC

I can agree with that. Now ask me if I think Phoenix can beat Doom*.

*Answer's yes.

Vader is not Phoenix...

Perhaps not. But I'm confident that both of them could crush six feet of iron and wires.

Originally posted by demigawd
Perhaps not. But I'm confident that both of them could crush six feet of iron and wires.

Who? Magneto? Oh he can, but not Doom's armor. And if Magneto can't, I know your not going to say Vader can.

In your mind: Magneto > the entire SW universe. 😎

I was referring to Vader and Phoenix. There's nothing unusually hard about the material of Doom's armor. He's not Ultron.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

B) NOW the truth comes out doesn't it? Thanks for walking RIGHT into that. "Vader, sitting down in his little dome thing". The dome thing that powers and recharges his suit. Didn't see him standing on the bridge, hands out, moving the ships. That was rather easy to make you slip up.

you do realize the dome in the super star destroyer has NOTHING to do with powering the ship. It is simply a place vader goes to concentrate and channel the force... so i didnt 'slip up' im still perfectly right. Vader did this using the force, nothing else. (and how the hell can you claim to have 'forced me' to say that, when you first claimed that he never did anything like that in comics to begin with..?!?)

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

You started, I finished. I wasn't trying to sway anyone from topic. Like I said before, you can either choose to reply to the off topic or the on topic, you chose both. You chose to highlight one third of a 3 part post in which I went semi-off topic on a notion you brought up. Gloat? Clearly missed the part where I said I don't claim my time here as paramount, it's just fun. You can have all the "couple" of allies you want. I don't care if people on ANY of these forums like, love or hate me. Fact is, they respect me. If it DID come down to who was more respected over all KMC, you'd be chewing my dust.

-AC

Originally posted by Beyonder
Who? Magneto? Oh he can, but not Doom's armor. And if Magneto can't, I know your not going to say Vader can.

In your mind: Magneto > the entire SW universe. 😎

well, magneto probably cant due to dooms magic or whatever. force and magic dont really apply to each other as far as i know. From what i've read, force can only hinder magic slightly (or not at all, if powerful enough) and magic doesnt hinder force at all.

Originally posted by Kontraz
well, magneto probably cant due to dooms magic or whatever. force and magic dont really apply to each other as far as i know. From what i've read, force can only hinder magic slightly (or not at all, if powerful enough) and magic doesnt hinder force at all.

Doom doesn't have any magic anything that would stop Magneto. Doom aint' Strange. And the best Strange could muster against Magneto was a draw.

then why couldnt mags effect his suit?

Doom de-magnetized his suit, so Magneto couldn't affect it directly anymore. Doesn't apply to the Force. You can't "De-forcify" the suit.

well, technically everything in the world is effected by magnetics... so if magneto was 'truely powerful' (yes, i know he is already, i just mean more so) then he would be able to manipulate anything.

Yes. Just so we're clear - Doom didn't beat Magneto. He just stopped the most obvious route of Magneto beating him. The fight ended pretty quickly after that because Doom got teleported away. Magneto still had plenty of options after that, we just never got a chance to see what he would have done for follow up. But Magneto has defeated shielding before.

Alpha can't wait to watch the Fantastic Four this summer I bet.

His calander's marked. Just saw the trailer. It doesn't look to bad.

Vader, Vader and Again Vader. He could use the force to crush teh forcefield generator and then just striek down Doom with his lightsaber OR just use the force choke to suffocate him PAST the armour. Then If that want enough he would just make lovely new Death Star adn tehm well...Bye Bye Doomy.

If this was Darth Vader before Mustafar accident he creams Doom in a curbstomp. But if this is mech Vader Doom takes it 6-6.5/10.

Originally posted by demigawd
Doom de-magnetized his suit, so Magneto couldn't affect it directly anymore. Doesn't apply to the Force. You can't "De-forcify" the suit.

Doom is a magnificent magician, maybe he can "de-forcify" his suit with powerful magic.

Originally posted by bean_machine
Doom is a magnificent magician, maybe he can "de-forcify" his suit with powerful magic.

i dont see how vader can win doom could sit there and let vader lightning blast hit doom and charge him up more or let his little light saber try and cut threw dooms armor or try gay mindtricks that doom will laugh at