Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't remember Han Solo standing there firing at Vader. Because the doors opened and Han Solo turned, did a double take, reached for his gun and let a blast off. He might have for two at most.I don't remember Vader standing there blocking 5 shots coz it was an ambush. It was fast.
-AC
I just put the movie in to review the scene. But If you watch Ep. 5 again you'd see that Solo is turning his head away from Lando as Lando was telling him and I quote "I've just made a deal with that'll keep the Empire out of here forever." The door slides open and Vader gets up out of a chair. Chewbacca then lets off a roar with Solo simultaneously and quickly drawing his blaster, letting off exactly (5) five shots, that Vader blocks with both hands. 5 as I said before. Not 2 or 1. The first 4 shots were blocked by his right hand and the last by his left then he took Solo's blaster with the right.
Vader.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Do you seriously have to bring everything back around to me?I have nothing to do with this. I'm not underestimating Vader.
Don't equate underestimation with being unimpressive.
I know exactly what he can do. You think that's enough, I don't. Let it go.
-AC
It's just hipocrisy kills me.
Especially when you call Vader a bad-ass a couple of posts up, then you call him unimpressive.
How can you know exactly what Vader can do when you told me that you only read a "bit" of SW comics like you said.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
It's just hipocrisy kills me.Especially when you call Vader a bad-ass a couple of posts up, then you call him unimpressive.
How can you know exactly what Vader can do when you told me that you only read a "bit" of SW comics like you said.
A) You've seen no hypocricy from me.
B) I called him a bad-ass by REPUTATION. Because he hasn't done anything that's impressed me to levels that would convince he can beat Doom.
You obviously took the word "bit" too literally. I love doing all this. It's rather fun.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I just put the movie in to review the scene. But If you watch Ep. 5 again you'd see that Solo is turning his head away from Lando as Lando was telling him and I quote "I've just made a deal with that'll keep the Empire out of here forever." The door slides open and Vader gets up out of a chair. Chewbacca then lets off a roar with Solo simultaneously and quickly drawing his blaster, letting off exactly (5) five shots, that Vader blocks with both hands. 5 as I said before. Not 2 or 1. The first 4 shots were blocked by his right hand and the last by his left then he took Solo's blaster with the right.Vader.
That's slightly correct.
Han Solo fires 5 shots. Only 4 are seen. 3 are fired DIRECTLY into Vader's hand. No indication that the force is used to deflect them. The other is fired directly into his other hand.
Whilst I misremembered the amount of shots fired, there is no major dodging or deflection done. Solo, like most blaster users. Fires them all at the palm of Vader's hands. No force usage shown. Just bad aim. It wasn't as if Vader dove all over the place Neo style and dodged/deflected them with the Force.
Doom is one of the best marksmen in Marvel and has more powerful weaponry than Han Solo.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriThat's slightly correct.
are fired DIRECTLY into Vader's hand. No indication that the force is used to deflect them. The other is fired directly into his other hand.
Solo, like most blaster users. Fires them all at the palm of Vader's hands. No force usage shown.
Doom is one of the best marksmen in Marvel and has more powerful weaponry than Han Solo.
-AC
What I wrote was slightly correct? The post was precisely correct in its interpretation. My post, line for line, was exactly how the scene played out. Can you tell me where you saw a problem in the post in regards to what happens in the scene?
Solo didn't fire blaster shots directly into Vader's hands. Why would he do that? Solo was aiming for Vader's body to kill him. Vader's hands moved defensively and purposefully in the way of the lasers trajectory (path).
Solo, like most blaster users. Fires them all at the palm of Vader's hands?lol. I don't think that the majority of blaster users fire lasers at peoples hands. They all shoot to kill. How dumb do you think these characters are?lol
Force usage didn't seem apparent? Do you think a regular human would take blast shots to the hands like that? No. Those blast shots are the equivalent to bullet shots. Laser blasts can burns holes through a regular person. What. Are you saying Vader had bullet-proof palms.lol The force took place.
If Solo was as wealthy as Dr. Doom to get the training he needed to be a great marksman and powerful weaponry, would you make the comparison then? Cause that was definitely a weak comparison.
Thats like comparing Vader to Robin.
But anyway, I say Vader can beat Dr. Doom. Thats my opinion. As the thread asks right?
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
What I wrote was slightly correct? The post was precisely correct in its interpretation. My post, line for line, was exactly how the scene played out. Can you tell me where you saw a problem in the post in regards to what happens in the scene?
5 shots. He fires 4.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Solo didn't fire blaster shots directly into Vader's hands. Why would he do that? Solo was aiming for Vader's body to kill him. Vader's hands moved defensively and purposefully in the way of the lasers trajectory (path).
Watch the lasers and watch Vader's hand. He fires 3 directly into the palm of his right, then one into the other hand which Vader does the same to. Vader didn't place his hands infront of his body to block the blasts, he extended his arms and the blast quite comfortably hit his hands, the palms of. Watch it again.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Solo, like most blaster users. Fires them all at the palm of Vader's hands?lol. I don't think that the majority of blaster users fire lasers at peoples hands. They all shoot to kill. How dumb do you think these characters are?lol
Watch the scene again. 3 shots directly into Vader's extended right HAND (palm to be exact). Then another one into his other palm.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Force usage didn't seem apparent? Do you think a regular human would take blast shots to the hands like that? No. Those blast shots are the equivalent to bullet shots. Laser blasts can burns holes through a regular person. What. Are you saying Vader had bullet-proof palms.lol The force took place.
I didn't see him use the force. I saw Solo fire and Vader extend his hand. The blasts hit his hand, the audience are left to make the connection "Oh he did that with the force". Doom doesn't have bullet-proof palms, he could have stopped those blaster shots. If the force was apparant, the blasts wouldn't have even HIT Vader. They actually make contact with his gloves. Stop making excuses.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
If Solo was as wealthy as Dr. Doom to get the training he needed to be a great marksman and powerful weaponry, would you make the comparison then? Cause that was definitely a weak comparison.
Not as weak as what you just said. Something completely irrelevant, like most of your post. Fact is Han Solo doesn't and isn't. Let's move on.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Thats like comparing Vader to Robin.
It's nothing like that.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
But anyway, I say Vader can beat Dr. Doom. Thats my opinion. As the thread asks right?
Yes. Exactly. That's your opinion, fair enough.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
5 shots. He fires 4.Watch the lasers and watch Vader's hand. He fires 3 directly into the palm of his right, then one into the other hand which Vader does the same to. Vader didn't place his hands infront of his body to block the blasts, he extended his arms and the blast quite comfortably hit his hands, the palms of. Watch it again.
Watch the scene again. 3 shots directly into Vader's extended right HAND (palm to be exact). Then another one into his other palm.
I didn't see him use the force. I saw Solo fire and Vader extend his hand. The blasts hit his hand, the audience are left to make the connection "Oh he did that with the force". Doom doesn't have bullet-proof palms, he could have stopped those blaster shots. If the force was apparant, the blasts wouldn't have even HIT Vader. They actually make contact with his gloves. Stop making excuses.
Not as weak as what you just said. Something completely irrelevant, like most of your post. Fact is Han Solo doesn't and isn't. Let's move on.
It's nothing like that.
Yes. Exactly. That's your opinion, fair enough.
-AC
dude.... your arguements are actually becoming weaker as this thing plays out. I mean "he didnt use the force to block the shots because if he did, the shots wouldnt have touched him" Well, they sure as hell didnt hurt him, the suit didnt take the damage, because that would have been evident. So... any other explaination as to what happened to the shots? And yes, it does seem Han fired directly into Vader's palm... but isnt that more of an acting/camera/director error, rather than him ACTUALLY firing directly into his palm?
you claim you didnt see the force... um... when have you ever, aside from the lighting? When obi wan mind tricked the storm trooper, i didnt see little green waves of psychic energy coming out of his mind. And you also say that the audiance is left to make the connection... well... duh. It wouldn't exactly be a good scene if right after that happened, vader turned to the audiance and explains "see, i used the force to keep from being harmed by the blaster..."
Originally posted by Kontraz
dude.... your arguements are actually becoming weaker as this thing plays out. I mean "he didnt use the force to block the shots because if he did, the shots wouldnt have touched him" Well, they sure as hell didnt hurt him, the suit didnt take the damage, because that would have been evident. So... any other explaination as to what happened to the shots? And yes, it does seem Han fired directly into Vader's palm... but isnt that more of an acting/camera/director error, rather than him ACTUALLY firing directly into his palm?
They're not actually getting weaker. So, that's your first part wrong.
They didn't hurt him, so? So what? That means he used the force? The suit didn't take damage coz Han Solo didn't fire at the suit.
No really, coz if you extend your hand palm outward, at arms length, it would be easier for a laser to hit your body. He aimed at the mans hand because that's where the lasers go. They go toward his hand, not his body, not his head.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
you claim you didnt see the force... um... when have you ever, aside from the lighting? When obi wan mind tricked the storm trooper, i didnt see little green waves of psychic energy coming out of his mind. And you also say that the audiance is left to make the connection... well... duh. It wouldn't exactly be a good scene if right after that happened, vader turned to the audiance and explains "see, i used the force to keep from being harmed by the blaster..."
My arguments are getting weaker? You never posted anything of relevance here.
-AC
Originally posted by grey fox
Man that would be funny"vader you are 'the one'"
"just focus and those lasers will go straight into your palms or better yet you could re-direct them into that fanboy with the name tag 'fist of the north' "
Only for me to deflect them mentally str8 clean through your breast. haha.
na, just kiddin'