Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It wasn't ridiculous.The man was acting as if Darth Vader was Neo-ing all over the place. When that was far from the case.
-AC
I was acting as if Vader was Neo-ing all over the place?
Wrong again. I in now way wrote anything to make you even remotely think Vader was acting so.
Get it str8.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
My arguments are getting weaker? You never posted anything of relevance here.-AC
This isnt my post?
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Originally posted by FistOfThe North (?)
you claim you didnt see the force... um... when have you ever, aside from the lighting? When obi wan mind tricked the storm trooper, i didnt see little green waves of psychic energy coming out of his mind. And you also say that the audiance is left to make the connection... well... duh. It wouldn't exactly be a good scene if right after that happened, vader turned to the audiance and explains "see, i used the force to keep from being harmed by the blaster...""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Alpha. I didn't write this post to you. The guy with the transformer logo did. Search for it a couple of posts up for the evidence. Why is my name there. It says "originally posted by Fistofthe North". This is in no way my post. If you look back you'll find proof, and see that it wasn't me who wrote this message.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I was acting as if Vader was Neo-ing all over the place?Wrong again. I in now way wrote anything to make you even remotely think Vader was acting so.
Get it str8.
It was an exaggeration. So why don't you *Insert another internet slang irrelevant phrase*.
Also, note how I said he fires 5 but 4 are seen.
Because the gun sounds 5 times, there are 4 lasers. That's irrelevant though.
Apologies on the mis-quote. I'm sure Kontraz will know it's to him.
-AC
dude... seriously... no arguements... you have come up with no logical arguements whatsoever. thus far, you have claimed that even though vader can move an entire fleet of star destroyers out of range of a star going nova, he cannot crush dooms suit, and that the force does not exist in the star wars universe.... really... its quite sad that you even bother comming to these forums.
Originally posted by Kontraz
dude... seriously... no arguements... you have come up with no logical arguements whatsoever. thus far, you have claimed that even though vader can move an entire fleet of star destroyers out of range of a star going nova, he cannot crush dooms suit, and that the force does not exist in the star wars universe.... really... its quite sad that you even bother comming to these forums.
A) You've come up with no logic. Forget logical ARGUEMENTS, you've come up with no logic. Just brought up the odd point that I have dealt with.
B) He didn't move an entire fleet of star destroyers away from a star, let's not exaggerate the point. Those ships were fully piloted. Jean Grey can move objects with her mind, she can't crush Doom's suit. So don't equate moving stuff to being able to crush things.
C) Sad? I don't claim my time here as paramount but if you go in most of the other forums and say "Who's AC?", negative or positive, you'll know that respect is synonymous with my name. Many people have said the forums are a better place with me here.
Who are you?
-AC
I'm back.
The bottom line here is that someone who has the power to deflect a canon and someone who has the power to move an entire starfleet out the gravitational pull of a supernova most certainly has the power to crush a man in a suit of iron armor. I have no doubt in my mind about that - the idea that crushing doctor doom in his suit would be impossible to someone who was able to move a whole fleet with the power of his mind is ridiculous to me.
And, despite 43 pages of other side arguments, that one little comparison is really what it comes down to for me. You can choose to ignore that if you want, but I cannot look past those feats.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A) You've come up with no logic. Forget logical ARGUEMENTS, you've come up with no logic. Just brought up the odd point that I have dealt with.B) He didn't move an entire fleet of star destroyers away from a star, let's not exaggerate the point. Those ships were fully piloted. Jean Grey can move objects with her mind, she can't crush Doom's suit. So don't equate moving stuff to being able to crush things.
C) Sad? I don't claim my time here as paramount but if you go in most of the other forums and say "Who's AC?", negative or positive, you'll know that respect is synonymous with my name. Many people have said the forums are a better place with me here.
Who are you?
-AC
A) i have no logic? You claim the force doesnt exist in the star wars universe... And my argument is this: Vader has the power to crush doom's suit with him in it, and you have yet to address that fact without simply saying "no, the force isnt real" well, no shit, neither is vader or doom!
B) i exaggerated nothing. Check out the series of comics that were comming out while the original movies were still being released... in the arc where the rebels finally make it to hoth, vader, sitting down in his little dome thing, causes his entire fleet to move out of range of a star that is going nova. Now, why didnt the ships just do that? Well... because the star had spiked earlier, causing a massive EMP to blackout all the ships, along with the rebel's ion blasts. So yes, like it or not, vader does have the power to move an entire fleet by himself.
C) ROFLMAO!!! Okay, instead of argueing points, you resort to trying to cut down your opponents to divert their attention from the topic at hand. And if trying to claim "glory in a comic versus forum" is something you wish to gloat about, it is all the more depressing to think that you are an actual person. And yes, i do have a few of 'allies' in these forums... you, i've heard nothing of the sort... respect... 😆
Originally posted by demigawd
I'm back.The bottom line here is that someone who has the power to deflect a canon and someone who has the power to move an entire starfleet out the gravitational pull of a supernova most certainly has the power to crush a man in a suit of iron armor. I have no doubt in my mind about that - the idea that crushing doctor doom in his suit would be impossible to someone who was able to move a whole fleet with the power of his mind is ridiculous to me.
And, despite 43 pages of other side arguments, that one little comparison is really what it comes down to for me. You can choose to ignore that if you want, but I cannot look past those feats.
He deflected it yes, but at the cost of nearly dying.
Secondly, Kontraz is simplifying that one feat beyond belief.
Originally posted by Kontraz
A) i have no logic? You claim the force doesnt exist in the star wars universe... And my argument is this: Vader has the power to crush doom's suit with him in it, and you have yet to address that fact without simply saying "no, the force isnt real" well, no shit, neither is vader or doom!
A) I never claimed the force didn't exist in the SW Universe, there you go again. It's getting really mundane and boring when you continually and brutally, dare say intentionally misinterpret my posts to serve your own failing meaning. I don't believe the "force" is that strong. I've said why, if you don't agree, fine.
Originally posted by Kontraz
B) i exaggerated nothing. Check out the series of comics that were comming out while the original movies were still being released... in the arc where the rebels finally make it to hoth, vader, sitting down in his little dome thing, causes his entire fleet to move out of range of a star that is going nova. Now, why didnt the ships just do that? Well... because the star had spiked earlier, causing a massive EMP to blackout all the ships, along with the rebel's ion blasts. So yes, like it or not, vader does have the power to move an entire fleet by himself.
B) NOW the truth comes out doesn't it? Thanks for walking RIGHT into that. "Vader, sitting down in his little dome thing". The dome thing that powers and recharges his suit. Didn't see him standing on the bridge, hands out, moving the ships. That was rather easy to make you slip up.
Originally posted by Kontraz
C) ROFLMAO!!! Okay, instead of argueing points, you resort to trying to cut down your opponents to divert their attention from the topic at hand. And if trying to claim "glory in a comic versus forum" is something you wish to gloat about, it is all the more depressing to think that you are an actual person. And yes, i do have a few of 'allies' in these forums... you, i've heard nothing of the sort... respect...
You started, I finished. I wasn't trying to sway anyone from topic. Like I said before, you can either choose to reply to the off topic or the on topic, you chose both. You chose to highlight one third of a 3 part post in which I went semi-off topic on a notion you brought up. Gloat? Clearly missed the part where I said I don't claim my time here as paramount, it's just fun. You can have all the "couple" of allies you want. I don't care if people on ANY of these forums like, love or hate me. Fact is, they respect me. If it DID come down to who was more respected over all KMC, you'd be chewing my dust.
So now we've cleared that up. We can both leave it, OR you can reply and CONTINUE the off-topic discussion you started.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
B) NOW the truth comes out doesn't it? Thanks for walking RIGHT into that. "Vader, sitting down in his little dome thing". The dome thing that powers and recharges his suit. Didn't see him standing on the bridge, hands out, moving the ships. That was rather easy to make you slip up.
But he said that there was an EMP that wiped out the electronics in the system. There wouldn't be any power to charge his suit. Secondly, it doesn't matter if his life support system gets charged - it was still The Force that caused him to move the entire fleet. If he's able to manipulate that much metal like that, crushing some iron and wires couldn't possibly be more difficult, no matter who was occupying the armor.
Was there anything shown that showed he was getting power from there? There's a big difference between getting something to power your suit and using the Force for a huge effect. While I don't know whether or not that chair did anything to power his suit (I assume not if an EMP knocked all the systems out), I do know that it's still a mighty impressive Force feat. Vader wouldn't have to exert anywhere near that much power to affect Doom's armor. Like I said before...it's just metal and wires.