Fate

is everything fate or can you make your own future ?

shouldn't it be more like fate of choice...?

I don't think there is an answer to this....

To me, I think it's more of a destiny thing...

wouldnt destiny be the same as fate.......

Originally posted by peterKSL
I don't think there is an answer to this....

To me, I think it's more of a destiny thing...

Yes there is and Yes you can....I'm doing it..and so are others...

The only destiny you have is the destiny you make.

indeed... nothing is predetermined.

I believe in fate but we pre determined our decisions without knowing so basically I believe in a weird and philosophical way chance and fate are the same thing just explained in different ways.

I think that chance and fate are very similar...

Fate, I believe, is something pre-determined by some omnipotent and omnipresent being.

Chance is something that happens seemingly out of no pre-determination (for lack of a better word). But I do think there may be an aspect of fate in chance which is kinda hard to explain.

If you find a penny on the sidewalk did you find it by fate or fortune?

Man, I've totally confused myself and lost my train of thought... I was going to say something smart but I forgot it... no, really I was. 😛

I have no idea what I'm trying to say anymore...

Fate or Fortune?

hmm...

it's tricky because neither of those options puts yourself in control... if you were destined to find that penny then some other being is in control of your life. If you found it by chance you are still out of control because it was not yourself that lead you to find that coin, it was whoever dropped it there... or was it?

this is where I think Fate and Fortune kind of intertwine...

man, I'm too tired for this kind of thinking right now. I'm sure I've made absolutely no sense, but whatever 😄

Originally posted by lilmisskitten
wouldnt destiny be the same as fate.......

yes destiny is the same as fate... what I'm trying to say is there is no "answer" to this, but I am just giving my own personal oppinion on the matter...

Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
indeed... nothing is predetermined.

One must learn to doubt... you don't have any evidence or whatsoever to support your arguement do ya? Remember one thing.. Nature outruns you!! 😛

No, I don't have evidence... but I do have an open mind.

There is no evidence to support the contrary either...

Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
No, I don't have evidence... but I do have an open mind.

There is no evidence to support the contrary either...

Well, I am being skeptical about there being an answer and you being confident with your theory... why do I need evidence to support something that I feel skeptical about?

Another thing about open minded... you said that nothing is predetermined... why don't I see any sign of open minded?

To me, open minded is merely just saying "OK". Nothing more...
if not, you are not open minded anymore, ain't it true?

By open-minded I mean I belive anything is possible and will not disregard anything off the bat...

I believe that nothing is pre-determined, that we are in control... but I am open to the possibility that there may be another force in control.

i believe in fate
especially before exams
if i am to pass i'll pass without learning
and if i'm to fail i'll fail and it doesn't matter how much do i learn

😖mart:

It's like this.

You make your own choices, the future is conceptual. There isn't any pre-planned destiny or fate.

However, actions that you take now WILL or CAN have an effect that will remain prominent.

Example, it's not fate when I'm born that I'll go to college. I make that happen. I get my grades and as a result, I will go to college in the future.

Cause/Effect/Consequence.

-AC

nice Clovie.

I don't believe in anything being predetermined. Everything is subject to choice. when someone makes a choice they alter the way everything will come out. This is close to fate but its not dictated by a plan, its all dictated by the choices we make. Chance is merely something we all deal with. When we hop in a car we are taking the chance that someone chose to drive drunk and we are possibly headed to our death. But if we chose to go a different way than normal our fate has been thwarted. Then of course some people say that you were destined to chose that way. And those people are just really looking for security 😉

well put AC... I like your post better lol

so then would it be fair to say that Chance is controlled by other people around you and Fate is controlled by a 'Higher Power'?

No, it would be better to just say what I said, open your eyes and realise the only fate is the one you make.

-AC