Fate

I don't think you are supposed to do something and you can't decide, though sometimes i feel like that. i dont want to believe my life is already lived and i can't do anything to change teh course of my future.
But you are supposed to be something or someone by other people and you are and your course is supposed by the circumstances of your life, the family you are born into, the people you meet... but you can change yourself with your own will. Well I think so. And i dont mean faking your image, you can change your opinion, of course, and you can xhange the circumstances of your life. you just have to want it really hard.
I don't knwo the sentence from Star Wars Episode 1 in english, but it means that the circumstances you are born into dont gotta be the ones you die in. That sentence just came to me... 😆

If everything were happening for a reason it would be impossible to comprehend the mechanics of it.

However heinsite is 20/20 and I believe its then sometimes you can catch a glimpse of the entricate workings of fate.

But hey thats just me, but I have seriously caught some of the weird order of my own life.

People aren't fully in control of their destiny when they're children.
After that, the choices are yours.....

If you make a poor choice and it has unfortunate consequences, that's not fate. The same as if you make an excellent decision and the results are great.

What would be the point in living if you knew you were merely a puppet?

Everyone has choices in life. Although I do believe in fate, there are many paths you can take to get to whichever final destination you may have. It may not be a set destination, because your choices can change where you end up.
Everything happens for a reason is something I half believe in.
In the way of action/reaction I think its entirely correct. Every choice you make has a consequence, good or bad. However, hoisting all your good and bad decisions on fate alone is like passing the blame and responsibility for everything you do.

Instead of saying everything happens for a reason, try "when one door shuts, another opens."
That is a quote I completely believe in. If you take responsibility for your choices, accept them, and learn from them, things work out for you in the end.

I agree. Blaming something on fate is an excuse for making bad decisions....

I don't believe in fate/destiny/the whole determinist point of view. Because, for one, that suggests that there's some higher power out there using us as puppets, and I don't believe that there is any sort of higher power. I don't like the idea of not being able to have any choice in my actions and my life.

(edit - spelling)

some higher power out their using us as puppets

My brother's theory is that he's a robot.

man at least I aint gonna purchase any goods from the company that made him then

The bishops and cardinals need to hook him up to strings and make him move around like a marionette...

Whee, look at the religious guy dance!

😂

Whee, look at the religious guy dance!

I'm a girl, Finti 😛

And YOU suggested him being a puppet, anyway 😛

But I just started chewing a piece of gum. Did that happen for a reason? Yeah, I wanted a piece of gum.

Dont read too much into things.

it was aimed at the dancing religious guy Silver

Oh okay 😂

I wasn't talking about making him dance, I just meant they could help him get around. Don't think I've been threatened with a stoning before.....

Don't think I've been threatened with a stoning before

Not that I can recall......

fate and free will are the same thing. our minds are the center of everything. God is the same thing as our minds and our minds are God. Everything is a peice of this. There are so many aspects to this that we don't even notice the coinicidences that occur every single day. The way events turn out.
Our fate is the outcome of our lives and we control that fate completely, without knowledge that we have this power it is like an external force but this external force is also inside of ourselves, making it free will. There is no difference between the two.
We control our life and our life controls us. This body and who we think we are as a person is only a small aspect of our whole self. We are the entire world.