Batman vs Captain America

1) I concede to the fighting advantage, it is dead even.
2)Batman is also considered peak human, he is just a better acrobat, for the same reasons you listed.
3)What you consider peak Human and what Marvel considers peak human is obviously not the same. Marvel puts Cap at an 800 pound bench, not 1 ton! Also his Bat's strength is more spread out, thus his better agility.
4)Batman has plenty of endurance, what you consider a long drawn out fight might not be as long as you think it is.
5)I agree on both counts.
6)Hmm, are you beggining to waver? Cap wouldn't appreciate that. Fine, they're both equal strategist, I can't prove otherwise. But one of Bat's more subtle advantages is his ability to use what he's learned from his villians, something that Cap might spit at but would prove quite dangerous. And Bats has only had his comic for how long?
7)Intellegence obviously goes to Batman. Please do note that I said this is not likely to have an effect on the outcome, unless a situation arises which would prove advantageous. Cap is the better leader, something that won't help him in this fight, all your points hear is his strategy and leadership, not intellegence.
8)BP is by you admittedly a bad example so i'll leave it alone.

batmans endurance is nowhere near caps endurance, agility would only prove to be more flashy and more of a strain on batmans body, go read hush and tell me how well his endurance holds

cap knows alot about his enemies, cap has access to s.h.i.e.l.d. files on most of his enemies, i dont know how book smarts can give bats an advantage, as reading science equations to cap wont have any effect at all (except painful boredom) if you mean strategical intelligence then just refer to it as strategy, which cap has alot more of than batman imo

I didn't say Bat's endurance was near that of Caps, just that it doesn't matter. Agility would only prove more flashy? That's something I never thought I'd hear from someone who reads Spiderman. Hush was strange, well written, but poorly depicted.

Are you saying that S.H.I.E.L.D. has better intellegence than the JLA HQ, to which the Batcave is an easy match?

And like I said, It's situation where Batman could use his superior intellegence is unlikely to come up. But if it did, Batman would make use of it first and better. This is the third time I write this.

Cap may be a better leader than Batman but he is no way a better strategist. Ask the JLA. I'm sure he'd gain just as much praise as Cap would from the Avengers.

yes agility would only prove more flashy considering doing back flips and working your way around an enemy would only prove to be a strain to your body, so endurance does have a large part to play especially if youre talking about agility, they both go hand in hand

in marvel s.h.i.e.l.d. has the best intelligence on enemies, where as jla hq would be the best in dc.....but remember dc tends to make things much more dramatic in scope, because i mean theres a limit to how much intelligence you could have on every villain and hero in the world, how could jla hq surpass that?

i dont care about jla or the avengers opinions on bats or cap, their solo comics are the main stand-point here, and from what i've seen in one on one battles dealing with these two characters i think cap has proven a better strategist alot more than batman has

agility would only prove flashy if your a human, not SPIDER-man he has the endurance to carry out his agility and his agility is a huge part of his fighting skill

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
6)Hmm, are you beggining to waver? Cap wouldn't appreciate that. Fine, they're both equal strategist, I can't prove otherwise. But one of Bat's more subtle advantages is his ability to use what he's learned from his villians, something that Cap might spit at but would prove quite dangerous. And Bats has only had his comic for how long?
7)Intellegence obviously goes to Batman. Please do note that I said this is not likely to have an effect on the outcome, unless a situation arises which would prove advantageous. Cap is the better leader, something that won't help him in this fight, all your points hear is his strategy and leadership, not intellegence.

On your above points, I don't see how you think I'm waivering. Bat Man is a great strategist, but to say that he's BETTER than Cap is absurd "fanboyism". Cap is THE pinnacle of battlefield tactics in the Marvel Universe, whether it's a team fight or one-on-one. Nobody does this better than him. Hell, this is one of the central focal points of the character's concept! As I said before, I like Bat Man also, and I give credit where credit is due. He is good. But he is NOT Cap's equal in this department. And the things I pointed out were not just about leadership, they were about his ability to react to an ever-changing battlefield. If he can keep up with and direct all of the heroes' actions in a massive fight, how can you possibly sit there and try to say that he can't do the same thing and take advantage of changes in the fight in a small, one-on-one scenario? That makes "0" sense. Book smarts won't help Bats beat Cap on the battlefield! This is Cap's only real focus in life!

Cap has the experience of ages and the strength, his pride is more powerful than Batman's ambiguity. I'm afraid no bat wings will get past that impregnable shield of adamantine

Finally! Another Cap Fan who recognizes his superiority. How's it goin', friend?

Cor blimey, we've got twins!

captain america will kill batman
captain has superhuman strenght
he has master so many fighting style
look up the status of captain america and look at his fighting abilities
this is not much of a match to me
dont forget batman got is back broken by u know who
and that guy is no much for captain america, no villian in gotham city is a match for captain america
but they same to be giving batman a hard time
catwoman was wipping batman ass though he will win the match

I think bats can win because he worked for his works but caps were given.

Originally posted by supremthor
I think bats can win because he worked for his works but caps were given.

This response makes so little sense I won't even bother.

plus the battle start like this. cap is mad at black panther for puting mudin his shoes so he sees bats thinking it panther. cap throws his sheld at bat but bats duks.cap sees it not panther and is about to say sorry but POW bat catches cap right in the gut.Cap is really mad because that hurted.bat can tell cap is stronger so he moves back a second. cap throws a punch but bats counters it sending cap flying.well in the air cap flips of a wall doing a fly kick right at bat who flips back a few inches from caps attack.cap picks up his sheldand throws itat bat who duks but get a lift knee from cap with sends him fly through cap room.batman gets up like it was nothing andthrows a smoke bomb cap is blinded for a quick secondwith gives bat the tm to catch him in the face and ribs.cap is stunned but is able to counter the the last few blows from batman. the two fight for a few hours with no victor. then bats sees a picture bucky he grabs it but cap is like dont touch that picture. bats like so you also lost a lil teen sidekick in tight short,cap you to. both men start crying and get raned over by a large double chicken burger. LOOK I'M HUNGRY OK

Originally posted by supremthor
plus the battle start like this. cap is mad at black panther for puting mudin his shoes so he sees bats thinking it panther. cap throws his sheld at bat but bats duks.cap sees it not panther and is about to say sorry but POW bat catches cap right in the gut.Cap is really mad because that hurted.bat can tell cap is stronger so he moves back a second. cap throws a punch but bats counters it sending cap flying.well in the air cap flips of a wall doing a fly kick right at bat who flips back a few inches from caps attack.cap picks up his sheldand throws itat bat who duks but get a lift knee from cap with sends him fly through cap room.batman gets up like it was nothing andthrows a smoke bomb cap is blinded for a quick secondwith gives bat the tm to catch him in the face and ribs.cap is stunned but is able to counter the the last few blows from batman. the two fight for a few hours with no victor. then bats sees a picture bucky he grabs it but cap is like dont touch that picture. bats like so you also lost a lil teen sidekick in tight short,cap you to. both men start crying and get raned over by a large double chicken burger. LOOK I'M HUNGRY OK

Bartender, cut him off. He's had enough for one night.

these people are still tryin to defend batman
captain america has batle powerful foes
next time post batman vs solid snake or something like that
end this post its making me angry for nothing

That is pointless.
Batman would very easily kill Solid snake

whoa, solid snake fought phycho mantis dude, he could predict your every move!!

lol, im just messing around

Yeah I have and beat the original game,

Originally posted by asana
these people are still tryin to defend batman
captain america has batle powerful foes
next time post batman vs solid snake or something like that
end this post its making me angry for nothing

If you do not like the thread, go make your own.

And word to the wise stop your whining.

chill out guys, theres no need to say anything offensive towards anyone

Batman says in JLA/Avengers there is the possibility that you would beat me, if Bats says that then to me that means if nothing unusual happens Cap would win. Its sad but true.
But anyway Bats is almost as good of an strategist than Cap probably same (only strategy not leader)

Oh yeah i quite dislike Cap, probably one reason is that he could beat Batsy.