Batman vs Captain America

Originally posted by braz
Cap doesnt even rank in the top 10. & hes mastered what? judo and boxing??? o0o0 big f*ckin whoop. Batmans only mastered 125 more fighting styles than him.

Boxing and judo being styles Cap knows is from the handbooks and even there it says 'a number of styles, including', plus the handbook also rates his skill at 7 which it defines as 'all styles'.

So using handbook info it would be, all >>>>> 127 styles, BTW Cap has also mentioned in the comics that he is adept at all styles.

"What we have here is a failiure to communicate,"

Now understand this
Comic World's Dark Knight can't be touched, not by Cap.
Shiva yup
Deathstroke yes
Shang Chi yes
Karate Kid yep
Domino yes
Longshot yes
Daredevill yes
Spiderman yes
these characters could Possibly connect with a punch on a Healthy Bloodlusted Batman. Karate Kid definitely

"Observe the english I display,"
I'm adept at riding a harley but I'm no Valentino Rossi
I'm equally adept at expressing myself though not to the level of Beethhoven, Michaelangelo, Martin Luthor King, Arethra Franklin, Jimi Hendrix, John Travolta, Alicia Keys, Jackie Chan, Fabian Nicieza, Shakespeare, Chris Clairemont, a Soothsayer or Einstein.

Cap is adept at fighting and self defence so is any Green Beret or battle hardened Gi Joe, I wouldn't expect anything less. Regardless BATMAN owns the whole lot.

Bruv do you realise that Batman himself said that Cap can beat him?

You might have had a point had Cap said, 'I'm adpet at all forms of HTh combat, but I'm no master'.However unlike your examples Cap did not add any kind of qualifier.

Like I said, if you want to argue that number of styles gives someone an advantage, that advantage will belong to Cap.

batman is too smart for him

Originally posted by Alfheim
Bruv do you realise that Batman himself said that Cap can beat him?

YES.
to [a] generate a Quick rapport
[b] by disguising his true aspect as a deadly foe Cap would fight more openly & less defensively
& [c] Non Canon Crossover

[QUOTE=7359614]Originally posted by don't shiv
YES.
to [a] generate a Quick rapport
[b] by disguising his true aspect as a deadly foe Cap would fight more openly & less defensively
& [c] Non Canon Crossover [/QUOTE

I thought that was recently made canon?

No fighter has mastered "all styles" that's bull, styles are like language, changed and evergrowing within people, that would be like me mastering ALL forms of language, every single one, but there is always something else out there.

People 'mastering' 127 styles is also bull, however if you are going to accept what DC says Batman knows then you have to do the same for what Marvel says Cap knows.

Dammit, Batman has not mastered 127 styles. He only showed BASICS of the each style to Batgirl to teach her to read or something.

"you can not reason with closed minds." Anon.

Originally posted by don't shiv
YES.
to [a] generate a Quick rapport

I see so did you ask Batman that?

Originally posted by don't shiv
[B
by disguising his true aspect as a deadly foe Cap would fight more openly & less defensively

Really, did Cap tell you that?

Originally posted by don't shiv
[B

& [c] Non Canon Crossover [/B]

Prove it.

Originally posted by don't shiv
"you can not reason with closed minds." Anon.

Originally posted by Silent Master
People 'mastering' 127 styles is also bull, however if you are going to accept what DC says Batman knows then you have to do the same for what Marvel says Cap knows.

lol, whadda u mean its bull?? NOTHING is bull in the comic book world. anything the writer thinks of could happen. easily. and yes, he has mastered 127 different fighting styles, ive heard it from many people.

Originally posted by braz
lmao..! more than TWICE his strength..??? u gotta be kidding me. 🤨 so Batmans not even half as strong as wittle Cappy, even though Bats has been known to perform humanly impossible feats like kicking trees in half & knocking then down.(normal sized tree, 2-3 foot diameter) that just doesnt sound right to me. and less fighting skills..?? OMG u CANNOT be serious. Batman is at least, and ive heard this from many people, the 9th best martial artist in all of comics next to some guys that are just amazing. Cap doesnt even rank in the top 10. & hes mastered what? judo and boxing??? o0o0 big f*ckin whoop. Batmans only mastered 125 more fighting styles than him. and has taken down dozens of people h2h wise all at once. sure Cap may have the physical advantage but its not that much like ur saying. ur making it sound like its an overkill, which IMO, Batman is right on par with Caps physical prowess, if not better to be honest. its just Cappy had help from a wittle super soldier serum and Batman had to train to reach physical perfection. lol and another thing, ur making it sound like reaching in and grabbing something from his utility belts like some big accomplishment or a goal thats like impossible and will never be reached. lol hes done it when hes fighting 10 people at once, im sure he could do it against just one. and when he does, that nerve gas is going to disorient Cap so bad, he wont even know what hit him and will already be half KO'd before Batman swings with the final knockout punch to finishe em.

like i said. Batman 6/10

I like your determination. Its refreshing to see that having no knowledge of Captain America hasn't held you back from posting in his threads. 🙄

On to some other things. Batman isn't the 9th best fighter in all of comics. Despite what Batdude would have you believe, Batman is barely in the top ten of DC Martial Artists. Guess who holds the top stop in Marvel? Captain America! Not granted I think the other top guns like Elektra or Wolverine or close too if not his superior in skill but it is the opinion of Marvel characters that Captain America is the best (Stick and Ogun are likely better but they are both... ghosts... or something similar so they are omitted). Captain America is considered better then Shang Chi... by Shang Chi's own villains. The closest thing to Shang Chi in DC is Shiva or Dragon both of whom are better fighters then Batman (Dragon even called Bruce a talented amateurs!). And Captain America only knowing Judo is the second biggest myth surrounding Captain America (next to his shield being made of adamantium and vibranium). Captain America down right told Barron Zemo that he was proficient in every fighting style known to man (and that was what... in the 70s I think). There should be a scan of it on the forum somewhere... it was one of the first things I posted and it led into argument over the semantics of the word proficient with... DarkCrawler I think. Everything Batman has done in hand to hand Captain America has done, and he has done it better. Oh and yes Captain America is at least twice as strong as Batman. Even when he lost his power derived from the SSS he was still benching 800lbs and with it he has benched into 2000lbs with out breaking a sweet. Captain America is superhuman across the boards.

Originally posted by braz
lol, whadda u mean its bull?? NOTHING is bull in the comic book world. anything the writer thinks of could happen. easily. and yes, he has mastered 127 different fighting styles, ive heard it from many people.

By that same token, Cap is then adept at all styles, since it was stated in a comic(while fighting Baron Zemo).

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
and with it he has benched into 2000lbs with out breaking a sweet. Captain America is superhuman across the boards.

Really? Do you know what issue that was in? So basically Cap's strength is 1+.

Spiderman and Deathstroke would rape Batman.

Batman.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Spiderman and Deathstroke would rape Batman.

Also im not going to go over what was said in this whole thread so , breifly:

Who cares how many styles. Both are superb fighters.
What will determin the outcome of the fight will be caps better durability, strength, stamina, speed ect.

Captain wins majority.