Originally posted by §P0oONY
I have a suggestion... A reforming of the VG forum. Allowing multiple threads for hardware. And by this I don't mean just 3 threads (One for each console) I mean to allow people to talk about seperate things in seperate threads.Also allow a more liberal approach to the software threads. Again, if the game is large and diverse enough to allow multiple threads... Let them happen.
So long as the threads aren't duplicates and remain about VGs they should be allowed.
...so, allow duplicates so long as they aren't duplicates?
No, we're not changing any of the VG forum rules. And trying to go around GK and myself by posting here doesn't reflect very well on yourself.
Originally posted by Peach
...so, allow duplicates so long as they aren't duplicates?No, we're not changing any of the VG forum rules. And trying to go around GK and myself by posting here doesn't reflect very well on yourself.
Originally posted by General KalieroMy point is they wouldn't be on the same subject...
There is absolutely no logical reason to allow multiple threads on any one subject. Keeping game discussion in single threads retains all relevant posts to a single area, for the ease of both our moderation and other users' perusal.
In terms of hardware things about specific compoments or peripherals... IN terms of individual games there can be threads about specifics within games and such...
Pretty much allowing a widening of thread topics.
Originally posted by §P0oONY
My point is they wouldn't be on the same subject...In terms of hardware things about specific compoments or peripherals... IN terms of individual games there can be threads about specifics within games and such...
Pretty much allowing a widening of thread topics.
If you want a confusing myriad of threads about every little detail, go to GameFAQs.
Originally posted by §P0oONY
Put it this way... The KMC VG forums are by far the worst VG forums that I've seen on any forum. This is not just due to traffic.
Originally posted by §P0oONY
My point is they wouldn't be on the same subject...In terms of hardware things about specific compoments or peripherals... IN terms of individual games there can be threads about specifics within games and such...
Pretty much allowing a widening of thread topics.
Okay, well, for starters, there's rarely any hardware discussion outside of a new system announcement anyway. So I fail to see why more topics for that are needed when there's little to discuss about it to begin with.
And...no, multiple threads on the same game would be on the same topic - that specific game - and it would just make things a confused mess, with no one ever being able to find what they are looking for.
Originally posted by General KalieroThe forums are too strict... Look, I'm not going to go into it with you or Peach because you'll just go on the defensive. I'm not an idiot I know exactly how this conversation would go.
Posts about specific elements in a game belong in a single thread concerning that game, for the reasons outlined above.If you want a confusing myriad of threads about every little detail, go to GameFAQs.
And what is the reasoning behind this claim?
I am mostly looking for feedback from the unbiased moderators and members.
I think there are far better ways for you to make your point than with such forthright criticism, not to mention saying you won't actually explain your position with those most pertinent to the matter.
Starcraft 2 is the biggest release of the moment. Why would it actually improve matters to have, say, one thread about its single player and one about skirmish mode? It's not as if there is some overwhelming demand. It;s the same deal with the TV area, with a very limited amount of super-hot shows sometimes getting their own sub forum. No more is needed. I can't see any real support for your claim at all.
It is my experience that needless splitting kills a subject more than it helps (this is what happened to Trek, which actually became less popular not long after it got its own area).
Regardless, you must be prepared to discuss it with the mods or there is no point you raising it at all.
Originally posted by UshgarakNot really. Think about it: Let's say someone has an idea they think is good, but it's really shit. They bring it up to a few members, who immediately tell him it's shit. He thinks about it, decides it's shit, and decides not to bother you guys with it.Regardless, you must be prepared to discuss it with the mods or there is no point you raising it at all.
Problem solved, and you guys (mods) are never bothered with it and can focus your attention where it is really needed.
Originally posted by General KalieroI'm not asking for a change... I'm suggesting it... 😐
If you don't bring issues to the attention of those in power, how would anything change?If there really are problems, we will change them. We are rational.
I'm inclined to think your backing off it due to knowing it's not actually a problem.
I'm opening it up for discussion. See RJ's post.
I'm backing off because you guys are unrelenting and negative towards any suggestions that you disagree with.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
I think there are far better ways for you to make your point than with such forthright criticism, not to mention saying you won't actually explain your position with those most pertinent to the matter.Starcraft 2 is the biggest release of the moment. Why would it actually improve matters to have, say, one thread about its single player and one about skirmish mode? It's not as if there is some overwhelming demand. It;s the same deal with the TV area, with a very limited amount of super-hot shows sometimes getting their own sub forum. No more is needed. I can't see any real support for your claim at all.
It is my experience that needless splitting kills a subject more than it helps (this is what happened to Trek, which actually became less popular not long after it got its own area).
Regardless, you must be prepared to discuss it with the mods or there is no point you raising it at all.
As for the hardware a perfect example is when I made a thread on in february dedicated to the PS3 leap-year bug (as it was happening) and it was instantly merged with the "Current Generation Consoles"... Essentially disregarding something that was effecting every PS3 user.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not really. Think about it: Let's say someone has an idea they think is good, but it's really shit. They bring it up to a few members, who immediately tell him it's shit. He thinks about it, decides it's shit, and decides not to bother you guys with it.Problem solved, and you guys (mods) are never bothered with it and can focus your attention where it is really needed.
A bit of a logical failure here. None of what you say there changes the fact that unless you can convince the area mods, it will never happen. So there is no point suggesting something you are not prepared to discuss with them.
It's also extremely rude, so on that basis this suggestion is being strangled at birth. Try it with more courtesy next time.
Originally posted by UshgarakWell, that's just silly.
A bit of a logical failure here. None of what you say there changes the fact that unless you can convince the area mods, it will never happen. So there is no point suggesting something you are not prepared to discuss with them.It's also extremely rude, so on that basis this suggestion is being strangled at birth. Try it with more courtesy next time.
It shouldn't be up to the area mods. Forum rules should be decided by Raz and Raz alone. Moderators are staff. That is all.
I swear I'm going to come up with a drinking game... Drink everytime a moderator says "Drop it" or something int he same vein.
That is NOT the way it is. Raz delegates the area mods to run their sections as THEY see fit. The area mods have always controlled their areas. I am happy to disabuse you of your incorrect assumption.
I hope that is clear to everyone. I will also remind people that this recent thinking about trying to bypass the mods by wanting to go straight to Raz is very unseemly.
Originally posted by UshgarakI wasn't trying to be rude, I was just trying to show a way you guys could make decisions on ideas with alot less hassle on your part.
A bit of a logical failure here. None of what you say there changes the fact that unless you can convince the area mods, it will never happen. So there is no point suggesting something you are not prepared to discuss with them.It's also extremely rude, so on that basis this suggestion is being strangled at birth. Try it with more courtesy next time.
Originally posted by UshgarakI said SHOULDN'T not ISN'T... Please read.
That is NOT the way it is. Raz delegates the area mods to run their sections as THEY see fit. The area mods have always controlled their areas. I am happy to disabuse you of your incorrect assumption.I hope that is clear to everyone. I will also remind people that this recent thinking about trying to bypass the mods by wanting to go straight to Raz is very unseemly.
If you expect to be treated with respect then show it yourself. Respect is something earned.
Saying an area of the forum is the worst one I've visited isn't rude. I didn't insult anyone. I just voiced a strong opinion.
Now back to the actual suggestion:
The reason I didn't want Peach and GK's opinion is quite obvious. I'm not looking for anything to be enforced at the moment I was simply opening it up as a suggestion. The reason I didn't want their input is because they'd smother it before it could even be discussed. |