George W Bush

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
Yet We do not have enough, plain and simple. We cannot force people to join a volunteer military and we cannot force other countries to deploy forces. The only way is to make the benefits for the military better to get peeps to join.

That's why Bush has cut their pay and benefits?

It's just easier to draft people than to entice them with better pay and benefits.
It's also allot easier than trying to get a vast coalition of allied troops to join you.

Bush likes things easy, seeing as he thinks "being President is hard"! dunce

Not having enough troops on the ground to secure Iraq immediately after major battle operations ended is the major reason Iraq is in such turmoil today.

The vast majority of US soldier deaths have occurred after Bush declared major battle operations over.

Poor planning, bad leadership and as a result more soldiers have died than should've.

Yeah, talk about trying to minimize causalities! 🙄

This is what I think about JUDGEMENT DAY the movie. SUCKED.
CLUE

HINT

SIGN

The day we judge ourselves and not others.

🤪 You must be one of those Nader people!

Originally posted by Tex
That's why Bush has cut their pay and benefits?

It's just easier to draft people than to entice them with better pay and benefits.
It's also allot easier than trying to get a vast coalition of allied troops to join you.

Bush likes things easy, seeing as he thinks "being President is hard"! dunce

Not having enough troops on the ground to secure Iraq immediately after major battle operations ended is the major reason Iraq is in such turmoil today.

The vast majority of US soldier deaths have occurred after Bush declared major battle operations over.

Poor planning, bad leadership and as a result more soldiers have died than should've.

Yeah, talk about trying to minimize causalities! 🙄

Yea allied troops that leave at the first sign of casualties ;rolleyes: very reliable..... 🙄 You swear that european troops would have changed everything 🙄 in desert storm... France sent no troops, niether did Germany.... OUR ALLIED TROOPS WERE Briton & Arabic. That is it. 95% of the forces were ours... and the reason we had overwhelming forces that time was because Reagen had left us a massive army.

Partisans and Terrorists cannot be stopped from starting ttrouble because they didn't start trouble till our forces passed and secured positions... 🙄 tell me how more troops would have been able to decern between civilians and soldiers that are dressed as civilians. Do you know anything about the meaning of partisan?

Street fighting and partisans always take the most amount of casualties. look at Somalia.

How do you plan against an enemy we have never fought before? How many times have we fought terrorists in street battles? ZERO times. Our Generals are doing the best they can. The President can only tell them the conflict and give them the objective.... you are criticizing the wrong leaders dude.

I'm one of those people that don't care what people think about what I should think. And I do what I want based on what good people want.

If you would like conspiracy theories... what if Hollywood and the government got together and considered teaching the people the power of good. There would have to be basic truths that are true to come to an agreement. I wouldn't underestimate the thinking of our government, but what if they really do agree. This election will be 537 electoral to 0. It won't be, because of what everyone is led to believe.

Maybe they decided to promote it so everyone would start caring about what is happening in the world. That is reality.

So now you're belittling the coalition troops that put their lives on the line?

Shameful.

Contrary to what you think we did not secure Iraq efficiently enough to prevent terrorists from crossing the borders into Iraq.

You say not to blame our leaders?
The very same leaders who sent too few troops?
The same leaders who went into Iraq based on faulty inaccurate information?

The same leaders who dismantled the Iraqi army and police, putting thousands of men that could've helped the US onto the street's unemployed?

Dont blame our leaders?
You're just like W. Fail to see and wont admit to any obvious mistakes.

Tex Wrote:

Dont blame our leaders?

That is right. Blame yourself. NOT CANADA, NOT THE PARENTS, NOT SOCIETY, BLAME yourself for not thinking clearly, if it is so true.

Where's Osama when we need him? 😈

Originally posted by Tex
So now you're belittling the coalition troops that put their lives on the line?

Shameful.

Contrary to what you think we did not secure Iraq efficiently enough to prevent terrorists from crossing the borders into Iraq.

You say not to blame our leaders?
The very same leaders who sent too few troops?
The same leaders who went into Iraq based on faulty inaccurate information?

The same leaders who dismantled the Iraqi army and police, putting thousands of men that could've helped the US onto the street's unemployed?

Dont blame our leaders?
You're just like W. Fail to see and wont admit to any obvious mistakes.

No, you are making thier contributions too large... we have always taken the blunt of the enemy.... The british have what, 15,000 deployed... we have 300,000. Logic... dude..... Logic...... mind you 60,000+ of ours are support.... not battle.....

hysterical we can't even secure our own border from imagrants hysterical how do you expect any number of men to secure impassable deserts and highways wit no checkpoints?

I never said not to blame our leaders... you are blaming politicians for not positioning our troops correctly and them dying... and therefore if you want to criticize leadership you should talke to Sergents and Generals.

They dismantled an army who were loyal to a dictaor not Iraq. They were useless to us to begin with... they only thing they were good at was slaughtering civilians and intimidating by beating the unarmed and reporting people to secret police for torture.

Don't get me started on what you are..... 🙄

Osama, in my mind, is alone thinking about what is true, just as what we are. He won't accept truth that society will crumble around him, we too need to make changes. That is already underway. You need to watch the signs in the movies to see what is going on with how people think in Hollywood. The outcasts understand. They are the ones who are thinking objectively, not subjectively. We need to back away and see everything at once and then judge ourself to see if we made the right decision given the world we live in.

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
No, you are making thier contributions too large... we have always taken the blunt of the enemy.... The british have what, 15,000 deployed... we have 300,000. Logic... dude..... Logic...... mind you 60,000+ of ours are support.... not battle.....

hysterical we can't even secure our own border from imagrants hysterical how do you expect any number of men to secure impassable deserts and highways wit no checkpoints?

I never said not to blame our leaders... you are blaming politicians for not positioning our troops correctly and them dying... and therefore if you want to criticize leadership you should talke to Sergents and Generals.

They dismantled an army who were loyal to a dictaor not Iraq. They were useless to us to begin with... they only thing they were good at was slaughtering civilians and intimidating by beating the unarmed and reporting people to secret police for torture.

Don't get me started on what you are..... 🙄

How preposterous!

Every person who knows anything about warfare (including the US military itself) has realized that dismantling the Iraqi army was one of the worst mistakes in this quagmire of a war!

Your logic is so flawed and incorrect I dont know where to begin!

You yourself have just admitted that Iraq is a debacle train-wreck and in a EUREKA! moment admitted that Bush cannot protect the US border from terrorist crossings; and yet you still defend him at every turn.

Like a mother defending her murderer son!

What primitive barbarianism! schmoll

Instead of laughing hysterically at the deaths of our young brave coalition forces, you should be out voting for Kerry! 👆

Raven, when has the US taken to blunt of the enemy????? When.....???

Originally posted by Samas-adian
Raven, when has the US taken to blunt of the enemy????? When.....???

jawdrop I don't know.... ummmm.... well...... starting in coalition wars with Korea 80+% were US Vietnam 90+% Somalia 90+% US Desert Storm 80+% US

TEX

Instead of laughing hysterically at the deaths of our young brave coalition forces, you should be out voting for Kerry!

Or you shouldn't be owning our mind. Maybe. I don't like being a slave. In that way, we should respect each other's mind.

Originally posted by Tex
How preposterous!

Every person who knows anything about warfare (including the US military itself) has realized that dismantling the Iraqi army was one of the worst mistakes in this quagmire of a war!

Your logic is so flawed and incorrect I dont know where to begin!

You yourself have just admitted that Iraq is a debacle train-wreck and in a EUREKA! moment admitted that Bush cannot protect the US border from terrorist crossings; and yet you still defend him at every turn.

Like a mother defending her murderer son!

What primitive barbarianism! schmoll

Instead of laughing hysterically at the deaths of our young brave coalition forces, you should be out voting for Kerry! 👆

In what way? Explanation other then a word.... please......

Troops and police loyal to Saddam are not who you want with guns. If YOU knew anything about this war, you would know that 90+% of the people we are fighting are X-Iraqi army

My Logic is flawed? Do explain... since all you say is that it is flawed. 🙄

When did i say it was a debacle? The war is going just as a partisan infighting conflict can be expected to carry on as. 😑 God couldn't close a border completely. you have any idea how borders work? there isn't a giant 10 ft wall around Iraq 😱 its a open desert, anyone with a truck could pass at any point 😱

I defend nothing because your attacks are like a whisp of air 😂

by TEX

Like a mother defending her murderer son!

I think of it like someone caring for someone when the son is accused of murder. Only the son knows for sure if he is guilty, so we should all tell the truth. That is the key to conserve human existence.

What you mentioned were all started by the US aside from Korea in which had the UN involvment from the get-go. So they didnt take the blunt of the enemy but instead taking themselve into the enemy.

Tex, you are deffinitivly one of my fave Americans - ever!

Originally posted by Samas-adian
What you mentioned were all started by the US aside from Korea in which had the UN involvment from the get-go. So they didnt take the blunt of the enemy but instead taking themselve into the enemy.

Vietnam was at first a UN effort, Somalia was at first a UN effort, Korea was a UN effort, and Desert Storm was a UN effort. 😐 Our forces have always comprised of the main forces.