Nightwing Vs Daredevil

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, he was huddling when they were shooting, but then jumped out over their heads into the open. You made it sound like he was pinned down and then the FBI saved him.

Dick wins, he's a real man.

While I support Daredevil losing to Batman, Id equally support him beating Nightwing more than not.

Originally posted by DTM
While I support Daredevil losing to Batman, Id equally support him beating Nightwing more than not.

Pre 52 is a bit of a mixed bag, he's been stomped by Bane but he fought Cassandra Cain to a stalemate

What was the name of that one martial artist that beat Nightwing and Tim? His name is alluding me right now.

I Ching !!! There you go

Aye DC seems to forget about it's cool martial artist., I'm still waiting for the unlikely return of Constantine Drakon.

Matt.

dd wins. not easily, not 10/10, but the majority. maybe 7-8/10 imo.

DD is not more skilled than NW. NW is a master of at least half a dozen martial arts. DD is also not more acrobatic than Dick who is the only human who can do a quadruple somersault.

In DC's Encyclopedia, its stated that he is second only to Batman in fighting skills.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Martial%20Arts/Knowledge/dcencyclopedia-nwingfile.jpg.html

DD is no normal human though. He has the strength and speed edge for sure. Throw his powers in there and Matt definitely should have the win.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
DD is no normal human though. He has the strength and speed edge for sure. Throw his powers in there and Matt definitely should have the win.

How does having a rader sense makes him stronger? And NW has comparable speed feats to DD.

It's not just the radar sense, his enhanced sense of touch gave him enhanced strength. He's flipped a limo with people in it, and has beaten Kingpin consistently and has more explicitly superhuman strength feats.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
It's not just the radar sense, his enhanced sense of touch gave him enhanced strength. He's flipped a limo with people in it, and has beaten Kingpin consistently and has more explicitly superhuman strength feats.

I've never heard of DD's enhance sense of touch making him superhumanly strong. The limo feat is nice but that's only one, and NW has some good strength feats as well. DD beats Kingpin due to his agility, striking power, skill, and speed, all of which NW also posses.

Pushes a large piano on Azrael.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Power-Strength/detective677-nwingpiano.jpg.html

Grabs one arm of KGBeast and tosses him around. Also grabs KGBeast's neck and flips him onto the Trigger Twins.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Power-Strength/nw35-kgbeastheadslam.jpg.html

Strong enough to knock Midnighter down with a surprise one arm back hand.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Power-Strength/grayson5-graysonpunchmidnighter.jpg.html

Pulls in Manbat with a grapple line, then restrains him with a full nelson.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Power-Strength/nw17-manbat.jpg.html

Breaking free from the jaws of a killer whale underwater.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Power-Strength/detective878-whale.jpg.html

I will also guarantee that there is not an acrobatic feat that DD has performed that Grayson hasn't done.

^ Grayson have any bullet-timing feats?

Originally posted by ODG
^ Grayson have any bullet-timing feats?

Here is the quadruple somersault he executed as a young child, his parents were the only persons to also perform the move.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/bat436-doomflip.jpg.html

Robin is called the laughing young daredevil 😉 and the world's greatest acrobat. Also mentions his rarely known ability to read people's body language.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/52_25-nworigin.jpg.html

Originally posted by ODG
^ Grayson have any bullet-timing feats?

Here's a few.

As a rookie Robin dodging bullets at close range and counting the shots fired then taking out the gunman. Soon after Batman compliments Dick on his speed and agility saying how he makes it look easy (Robin Year One #1)

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/robiny1-bulletcount1.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/robiny1-bulletcount2.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/robiny1-bulletcount3.jpg.html

Dodges a bullet at point blank range after it is fired despite one arm being tied up.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/shadowofthebat34-tallyfire.jpg.html

Dodging 200 rounds per minute from a flying gunman above him who he manages to close the gap on and grab ahold of with a high jump (Nightwing #142)

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/nw142-wingman.jpg.html

Ducks a bullet fired at his face at point blank range by Tarantula who he then quickly disarms (Nightwing #87)

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/nw87-tarantula.jpg.html

Defeats Capt Boomerang Jr who has super speed by blocking and dodging his attacks.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Skills%20Misc/outsidersnwboomer2.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Skills%20Misc/outsidersnwboomer3.jpg.html

Originally posted by carver9
On average, DD is better. DD holds every advantage.

I'm still waiting on proof that DD holds every advantage. I really would like to see how DD is more agile and acrobat than Grayson who was doing the greatest and most impressive acrobatic feats at the age of 8.

I also want to see more about this huge strength advantage that DD has especially now the his enhanced sense of touch give his superhuman strength.

Likewise this skill advantage that DD holds on someone who was trained as a child by Batman and received more training by Richard Dragon among others. After he was already an accomplish acrobat with tough endurance training.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Martial%20Arts/Training/robinann4-batraining.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Martial%20Arts/Training/nightwing0-batraining_zps2c1a75cc.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Martial%20Arts/Training/secretorigins1-dickgraysonorigin.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Martial%20Arts/Training/richardragon7-training1.jpg.html

Originally posted by Supermutant
I'm still waiting on proof that DD holds every advantage. I really would like to see how DD is [b]more agile and acrobat than Grayson who was doing the greatest and most impressive acrobatic feats at the age of 8.

I also want to see more about this huge strength advantage that DD has especially now the his enhanced sense of touch give his superhuman strength.

Likewise this skill advantage that DD holds on someone who was trained as a child by Batman and received more training by Richard Dragon among others. After he was already an accomplish acrobat with tough endurance training.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Martial%20Arts/Training/robinann4-batraining.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Martial%20Arts/Training/nightwing0-batraining_zps2c1a75cc.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Martial%20Arts/Training/secretorigins1-dickgraysonorigin.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Martial%20Arts/Training/richardragon7-training1.jpg.html [/B]

You're making a good case, actually. 👆 Who do you think wins? Or do you think it's a tossup?

Also, when did Daredevil get trained? A boy, too?

Originally posted by Supermutant
Here is the quadruple somersault he executed as a young child, his parents were the only persons to also perform the move.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/bat436-doomflip.jpg.html

Robin is called the [b]laughing young daredevil 😉 and the world's greatest acrobat. Also mentions his rarely known ability to read people's body language.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/52_25-nworigin.jpg.html

Here's a few.

As a rookie Robin dodging bullets at close range and counting the shots fired then taking out the gunman. Soon after Batman compliments Dick on his speed and agility saying how he makes it look easy (Robin Year One #1)

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/robiny1-bulletcount1.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/robiny1-bulletcount2.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/robiny1-bulletcount3.jpg.html

Dodges a bullet at point blank range after it is fired despite one arm being tied up.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/shadowofthebat34-tallyfire.jpg.html

Dodging 200 rounds per minute from a flying gunman above him who he manages to close the gap on and grab ahold of with a high jump (Nightwing #142)

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/nw142-wingman.jpg.html

Ducks a bullet fired at his face at point blank range by Tarantula who he then quickly disarms (Nightwing #87)

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Agility-Speed/nw87-tarantula.jpg.html

Defeats Capt Boomerang Jr who has super speed by blocking and dodging his attacks.

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Skills%20Misc/outsidersnwboomer2.jpg.html

http://s932.photobucket.com/user/themanwonder/media/Skills%20Misc/outsidersnwboomer3.jpg.html [/B]