Nathaniel Grey
THE MAN CALLED CABLE
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Being pushed aside and punched are to different things. Unless you are telling me that T'Challa can take direct punches form the likes of superman and the Hulk. In the post that Nathaniel grey provided it only shows panther being pushed aside as if he does not matter. A punch from the hulk will render T'challa useless. But since as this is how Nathaniel wants to play things, it would not hurt to say that batman can survive a punch from Hulk because he survive a punch from a pre crisis superman in Superman Batman comic. All though the superman in question is in debate whether in is the true pre crisis superman.
Don't attempt to make it seems as though I'm embellishing what the picture shows. My words were all too fitting considering the " THWACK " that followed HULK hitting the Black Panther. Everyone can plainly see that the Hulk wasn't using his every ounce of strength to decapitate the Panther but that's hardly a simple " push aside ". The Hulk's strength is often off the charts and more than often uncontrolled. With LITTLE effort his hit would have surely wounded even BATMAN. Why? Because Batman in the end is a human in a suit. Yes, his armor allows him a degree of protection and I've said it before but it's NOT vibranium. It doesn't absorb impact and doesn't protect his body in the same manner as the Black Panther. If HULK " THWACKED " Batman are you saying he'd as EASILY rebound and get up as Panther did? If Superman THWACKED Batman are you saying that he'd brush it off as though he were being pushed to the side? Get serious. Low? I play'em how I SEE them. I gave a PICTURE of what Black Panther's suit is capable of. Are you insinuating that I MADE IT UP? Damn. I never knew I was such a decent artist and inker.
You know that Kelvar that batman has he must have done something right if it can allow batman to survive a DIRECT PUNCH from an even stronger superman. Whether the superman is pre crisis superman or not. This my friends is not like the one provided by Nathaniel Gray that has Panther being pushed aside and it is being called a punch. The punch sent batman flying clear across the batcave. This is a punch not a swipe.
I don't know what goes through the minds of DC writers. Perhaps they developed the means to make Kevlar every bit as potent as Adamantium and Vibranium. Perhaps. But according to the lines of Marvel's relationship with the metal it isn't anywhere near as strong or versatile. You stated Batman could take a DIRECT punch from a enhanced Superman? What comic was it in? What issue number? Well, you've put the money in the bank for me. Vibranium saps the momentum from ANY and EVERY object and even withstands evergy blasts. Batman withstood a punch from someone STRONGER than Superman? I guess that means that Black Panther would have no problem taking the same punch and would probably withstand less damage. What's your point? I never stated in my post that Hulk PUNCHED Black Panther. I stated what the scan displayed for EVERYONE to see. Hulk HIT Black Panther who rebound. He didn't PUSH him aside. Does that look like a PUSH to you? Does everyone in the Marvel Universe recieve a THWACK when they're PUSHED aside? Come on now. Be serious.
I seem to recall batman built and design a plane called the Javelin capable of intertellar travel or hyper space or what ever it is called. And also that same Javelin can function underwater. Enough to evade atlantian battle cruisers. And also there is also that thing is space that was destroyed (Justice league starcrossed) and was rebuilt again I think it was called the JLA watch Tower and was designed and built by Batman.
Read my post again. I stated that Batman DID in fact supply his " Super Powered " team with technology and vehicles..etc. I never disputed that and consider it a well known fact. But people DON'T know that Black Panther has supplied great amounts of technology to the world over. Including to people like; Reed Richards, Bruce Banner, Hank Pym, STARK Enterprises..etc. Stating the obvious doesn't add to your argument.
I just recently learned that Wayne Enterprises is a family business. That is it was started in the 1800's and it has been in the family ever since.Deathstroke enhancer's puts him above batman even more so than black panther but you do not see Deathstroke putting the ca-bash on batman becasue batman has beaten him before badly. When deathstroke was going after robin. In this event it is said that batman took deathstrokes bow staff.
Well, unlike the " unbeatable " Batman, T'Challa has had difficulties with his overly enhanced opponents. Killmonger is the greatest that comes to mind. Yes, Erik Killmonger is GENETICALLY ENHANCED. Much like Deathstroke. He's the perfect example of the restraints of humanity that are still placed on a character who is essentially human ( T'Challa ). Black Panther while he didn't defeat Killmonger physically -- has bested him mentally on countless occasions. And has out thought his enemy to the point where it nearly KILLED him. Black Panther, like Batman , faces super enhanced foes all the time. I've NEVER DISPUTED that. But I doubt the Batman would fair well with someone who has every capacity to do what he does and MORE. Deathstroke has beaten the Batman on occasion according to some here-say I happened upon in a comic shop. Of course eventually in the comics Batman would gain a foot hold.
Batman is going to win but that win is not going to come cheap.
Batman's number is still up in my opinion. Only the swift, the smart and the STRONG survive. And Black Panther is swifter, just as smart and STRONGER than Batman.