The Bible

that's so sad

Originally posted by BackFire
Why would I want to read a 1000 page book telling me about how I'm going to hell when I die unless I believe in a certain invisible man that lives in the sky, go to a big cult building known as a "church" every sunday and confess sins, no matter how trivial, and give money to said cult building and so they can brainwash fear into my head to keep me coming back, just so I can avoid going to hell. Yeah, sounds great.

I've read enough of it, and heard enough quotes and sections of it, to know that MUCH of it is greatly vague and hypocritical, and just simply silly.

You don't know anything about it, but you have your judgement ready. Do you do this in the Book Discussion Forum as well, comment on books you haven't read? Rather pathetic if you ask me...

can someone please write which parts should be taken literal and which not? cause as soon as someone here points out "hey, that's not right!" people go on about how they shouldn't take it litteral, but a few posts later they scream out "it's in the bible!"

Go to a church, start studying theology, go aks a bunch of theologians, ministers, priests. and what have. Don't just go and choose the easy way. But you don't really care anyway, so why go through the trouble of collecting all that info for you.

and you are who again to say you know me?

unlike other members here, I do try to understand the points the others make, but as I said a few times here already; if you go and say "don't take everything litteral" and a few posts later you go on a hissy fit cause "it is in the bible!", the one who needs some clearing up is the one who does THAT

then what is holding me to write a holy book about a 12 foot long eclair and say everything should not be taken litteral? all religions have some basic points, if I write about that, I got myself a brand new religion ... and one more appealing to me I might add *drools*

Nothing's holding you, dude. Go write your religion. Then we can discuss it here. 😈

Originally posted by BackFire
Why would I want to read a 1000 page book telling me about how I'm going to hell when I die unless I believe in a certain invisible man that lives in the sky, go to a big cult building known as a "church" every sunday and confess sins, no matter how trivial, and give money to said cult building and so they can brainwash fear into my head to keep me coming back, just so I can avoid going to hell. Yeah, sounds great.

I've read enough of it, and heard enough quotes and sections of it, to know that MUCH of it is greatly vague and hypocritical, and just simply silly.

Why bravo?

I think the Bible is partly true, because it writes about the existance of saints (who were real) but the stories are rather twisted.
for example, I find the beggining of everything and the 'evolution' of man rather irational, kind of like a fairytale.

Originally posted by BackFire
Why would I want to read a 1000 page book telling me about how I'm going to hell when I die unless I believe in a certain invisible man that lives in the sky, go to a big cult building known as a "church" every sunday and confess sins, no matter how trivial, and give money to said cult building and so they can brainwash fear into my head to keep me coming back, just so I can avoid going to hell. Yeah, sounds great.

I've read enough of it, and heard enough quotes and sections of it, to know that MUCH of it is greatly vague and hypocritical, and just simply silly.

I know carpenters who can't hit a nail on the head like that. Well put BF.

Another fervent reader of the Bibel, I see. 🙄

Suffered my adolescence in Sunday school reading this highly coveted book of yours..and I don't see how any of your arguements hold water.

BF is completely right in what he said, church and religion are nothing more than cults.

It's not my book.

And what exactly is wrong with a cult?

drink the cool-aid and find out my friend.

What good is being in a cult. What does church provide you on Sunday that you can't get from your couch at home?

Do you think a building...built with the same exact modern construction tools that they use to make your house is honestly any more holy than any other place on this earth?

OMG, there's a cross and a few pews. Oh, and maybe a big statue of Jesus....THAT must be a holy place.

A church is no different from an office building...except office buildings usually have sexy receptionists...

Originally posted by yerssot
and you are who again to say you know me?

unlike other members here, I do try to understand the points the others make, but as I said a few times here already; if you go and say "don't take everything litteral" and a few posts later you go on a hissy fit cause "it is in the bible!", the one who needs some clearing up is the one who does THAT

We all are trying to understand what points the other ppl are trying to make yerss. But if people start posting "god doesn't exist because I said so" in one post and keep repeating the same thing over and over without any argument then why taken then seriously?

What seems to me is that ppl want to dissect everything in the Bible. Is like they want pin point what fact is and what is debatable. But at the same I've notice both sides (those that don't think the bible is true and those that think the bible is true) are biased to the writtings.

Earlier in this thread there was discussion about ancient books and their historic and geographical points. Let's take Beowulf for example...can you separate the facts from the myth? I'm sure Vikings descents won't mind if start to question their history and their traditions. After all they also accept that some parts of Beowulf are true. While we are at it let's dissect other books. Let's also dissect the Mahayana, The Baghda Gita, The Koran, and all other holy books. Go ahead try to separate the Fact and the Fiction from those books.

cool, sounds like time to open a few more threads....i love ripping apart ancient books.

But can you separate the Fact from the Fiction, Link?

well that would require research and knowledge of the subject.

If it involves parting a sea, making something fly, or making the blind see again...then I'm going to go ahead and say YES, i can.

So you do admit that it will require expertise on the subject? We need research and knowlege on the subject. Therefore we need an expert rigth? Good, becuase if you're an expert you know what you talking about, right? If you're NOT an expert therefore you're only down to your OWN opinion? To conclude we can only give our opinion. And since OPINION and FACT are two different things we can't really tell what is fact and what is NOT. We can only use our opinion.........catching my drift?

Not necessarily an EXPERT. Just some general knowledge.

I can't disprove something that I have no knowledge of in the first place. I've read a bible before, I've never touched a Koran.

All I've ever stated was my own opinion. And my opinion is based on the lack of facts provided by all the bible lovers. If you can prove to me that there is a God. Then I'll disprove that.

I can't disprove something that someone can't prove in the first place....