The Bible

If you worship God you go to heaven. Heaven is so much nicer than hell, so we want to get into it. So the best course is to worship God right?
Wrong. There are many possibilities for worship, and you don't know that God is the one. So you worship many compatible religions instead. I recommend Norse, Greek, Aztec, Roman, and Egyptian.

There were only 25 religions named in a book on my shelves, so if you worship them, from Woden to Isis, you have a five times greater chance of getting into heaven. Logically. This is what logic can get you into eh?

Just in case you're wondering whether they'll mind, remember that Isis was worshiped in Rome almost as soon as they conquered it. They love poly-pantheistic cultures.

P.S. Don't throw facts that you heard vaguely somewhere into your cauldron, and hope for a successful spell to be cast over the readers. Organise it, think about it. Argue against it and see flaws.

Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
Plus, your whole athiestic view will automatically have you think "holes" in everything since...faith in religion is blind to proof. obviously you have no faith. with that said, evolution MUST make more sense because theres proof to support everything.

Is there something wrong with having proof to be certain?

It's sad that this generation is oh so smart, with "open minds"...yet close their hearts to God.

You have it wrong. Most of us DON'T close our hearts to god. We just want proof. Prove us wrong, and we will gladly admit we were wrong... or "repent" as most religious types put it.

Evolution makes as much sense as people want it to make. For billions of years as species evolved, NOTHING and i repeat NOTHING has ever "evolved" to tha degree that we have. from mammal to mammal, only slight adaptive variations occured as we ALL KNOW that evolution is an extremely slow process.

Then SOMEHOW, you have humans that multiplied in to around SIX BILLION and has become more and more intelligent and technologically advanced that we went on tha moon after only a few million years of our species' existence? [b] By evolutions own rules, it CANNOT happen. yet we "conveniently" never hear this argument now do we?

Wow. What? You understand that humans are the most intelligent species of animal EVER, right? The reason why we have accomplished so much is that because our brains evolved the most. The rest of our body adapted to our enviroment. And the reason that we have multiplied to 6 billion is because 1. we have no natural population control, and 2. we can't stop ****ing.

As for souls, if you read my post i said that true love is unconditional of looks and necessity. to love, you must be in love with something. that connection you feel must be beetween something. when you laugh, as other animals do not...why is our responce laughter? these all hint to an existence of a soul. which goes against evolution by all means, but everything that exists isn't all picked up by our 5 senses.

It boils down to this : arguments are usually won due to whichever side has more facts. in this case, facts can only be derived from tha bible or miracles which "conveniently" is dismissed as coincidence. and since someone mentioned logic...You can either burn in hell or stay on tha safe side. afterall, you never really know. [/B]

If you are only religious to be "safe" you are religious for the wrong reason. I'm pretty sure any omnicient god can see through that lie.

"If you are only religious to be "safe" you are religious for the wrong reason. I'm pretty sure any omnicient god can see through that lie."

I said before that, "someone was talking about logic". i wrote that to show that if you are to think of this subject logically, you would also need to know that you aren't losing anything. It is not why i believe in God, i believe in him because he's there <- simply put, my faith is strong.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak

Wow. What? You understand that humans are the most intelligent species of animal EVER, right? The reason why we have accomplished so much is that because our brains evolved the most. The rest of our body adapted to our enviroment. And the reason that we have multiplied to 6 billion is because 1. we have no natural population control, and 2. we can't stop ****ing.

Incorrect. lol @ #2 though. we are NOT tha smartest when it comes to brain size and usage. you can say we are tha most able since we are on land and are primates. by evolution where for a couple of billion years all there was, was bacteria. where it takes millions of years just for a species to adapt to their climate. look at evolutions timeline, and consider TIME. in 2 million years humans have done shit so ****ing incredible that it can boggle your mind if you think of everything we have done. in JUST 2 million years. we have sent probes at tha end of our solar system.

Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
"If you are only religious to be "safe" you are religious for the wrong reason. I'm pretty sure any omnicient god can see through that lie."

I said before that, "someone was talking about logic". i wrote that to show that if you are to think of this subject logically, you would also need to know that you aren't losing anything. It is not why i believe in God, i believe in him because he's there <- simply put, my faith is strong.

If you can't offer proof, then, as many incredibly long and boring Atheist books say, then you are being agnostic, as you don't know. You might be putting your support in an evil church, allowing them to billow upwards on your support, and be causing pain to others. You cannot say that we should believe in God based on a feeling. You might be stupid, crazy or some other thing. Logically, you have to prove him logically. Who cares if you do otherwise, when the Atheists believe that the church is a rotten apple, spreading through society, based on a non-existent entity?

Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
Incorrect. lol @ #2 though. we are NOT tha smartest when it comes to brain size and usage. you can say we are tha most [b]able since we are on land and are primates. by evolution where for a couple of billion years all there was, was bacteria. where it takes millions of years just for a species to adapt to their climate. look at evolutions timeline, and consider TIME. in 2 million years humans have done shit so ****ing incredible that it can boggle your mind if you think of everything we have done. in JUST 2 million years. we have sent probes at tha end of our solar system. [/B]

We're only two or three percent off other primates, if you look at DNA. The hundreds of million years evolving DNA laid a lot of foundations for evolution. We also have extelligence (a collective knowledge), an advantage over other species

Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
Incorrect. lol @ #2 though. we are NOT tha smartest when it comes to brain size and usage. you can say we are tha most [b]able since we are on land and are primates. by evolution where for a couple of billion years all there was, was bacteria. where it takes millions of years just for a species to adapt to their climate. look at evolutions timeline, and consider TIME. in 2 million years humans have done shit so ****ing incredible that it can boggle your mind if you think of everything we have done. in JUST 2 million years. we have sent probes at tha end of our solar system. [/B]

Yes, we are the MOST intelligent animals, EVER. Brain size and usage? who gives a shit? Our brains are so advanced and versatile that it doesn't metter. We are the ONLY animals capable of reasoning, logic, and self-awareness. We are the most intelligent. Period. We wouldn't be at the top of the food chain if we weren't. We have done everything we have done, because of our uber-superior intelligence. Using only 10% of our brains doesn't matter. Our minds are so advanced that the small 10% equals more than any other animal using even 90% of their brains. Not only are humans the most intelligent, but also adapt the best because of it. We have massive population counts on EVERY continent on theplanet, with the exception of Antartica. Yes, people live there, but noone owns it, nor does anyone want to.

Bacteria don't have brains. How are you going to compare them to humans??

Well bacteria do know their stuff...

I suppose it's like people trying to compare themselves to a mtyhical figure without and knowledge of what it is really, except something to cling on to as a means of having hope in an otherwise pointless life. Isn't it, Harmonic?

if humans are so superior in every single way, arachnoidfreak, how come every year we get struck with a new flu-virus?

if humans are so superior in every single way, arachnoidfreak, how come every year we get struck with a new flu-virus?

I agree w/Finti, We are the Superior species of this planet.

Originally posted by yerssot
if humans are so superior in every single way, arachnoidfreak, how come every year we get struck with a new flu-virus?

One of the few population controls left on the planet yerssot. Viruses. Most of them change every time we catch them(hey, look at that, adaptation!). There are over 500 cold-viruses, and still counting. The Flu is no different. This flu is a very different strain from what we had 5 years ago, or even last year. Doctors are forced to change the vaccines accordingly.

Disease is the only population control left for humans. They adapt as well or maybe even better than we do. Viruses are a great example of evolution in the making.

are you sure it's not evolution instead of adaption? 😉
then imo it's clear we're not superior if we can't even control a litte flu

Adaptation is a part of evolution, just like natural selection is. I don't know what you were trying to do with that statement.

We can control the current strain, but we can't look into the future. The mutation that occurs in viruses is almost random. Just like predicting the weather, predicting a mutation is never 100% correct. This is why AIDS won't be cured anytime soon. It changes constantly. The problem with your view is that you think it's easy. It isn't.

They day we dicover how to predict a random change accurately is the day we cure all disease. And eliminate the last population control we have. The problem with random things are, they are unpredictable. There's no pattern, there's nothing to make a prediction from.

If you don't see that humans are the superior species on the planet, then you don't see at all. We don't have ANY natural predators. We are the top of the food chain. Name something than can compete with a human, and I'll tell you how the human will kill it. Name a problem, and a human will solve it(the whole point of science).

I was poking fun with the creationists-evolutionists debates 🙂

oh 😮 I couldn't tell over the internet.

the lord works in mysterious ways 😉

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
I agree w/Finti, We are the Superior species of this planet.

I agree that we are of superior intelligence and are most definitely in thorough control of the world as humans now... but I feel that our role should be more of stewardship of the earth and animals, rather than being the "superior species" or "masters"

The bible is just stories made to teach people lessons, i have read the bible and no i dont believe it. but thats the only explination i have.