Originally posted by §nakehead
The moment they make a heto character gay Ill stop reading that comic. Changing race and sexual likes is wrong
That is being a bit unfair.... The facts of the matter is that things change with times... when the character of Fury was created there were no black officer with the rank of Seargent or higher ( I might be wrong but I am pretty sure I am right ), so they had no choice but to make him white, but when the re-created the character in Ultimate Universe there is no reason Fury couldn't be black, and they decided to make him so. Usually I am against the remakes in any form, but in the Ultimate Universe most changes are for the better and Fury being black is one of them (in fact for some reason I tend to think of Fury as always being black and I recived a shock lately when I picked up a comic containing the original Fury and was shocked when I realised that I had forgotten that he used to be white).
Changes are enevitable, accept it.... 😄
Originally posted by Gregory
Well, I'm sure there's someone out there who'll miss you.And you know, it would be unrealistic. Apparently straight people never come out as gay in the real world, after all.
I stand at peace noing that Punisher and wolverine will remain untouched and unaltered. And I dont know about you but Stan Lee would NEVER aprove of something that!
Originally posted by §nakehead
I stand at peace noing that Punisher and wolverine will remain untouched and unaltered. And I dont know about you but Stan Lee would NEVER aprove of something that!
Let me quote our friend Stan Lee :
”Let me just mention that Marvel Comics, we are entertainers. And we do books for everybody. And the characters in our books represent everybody. In the "X Men," we have characters from all nationalities. We have both sexes. I didn't write this book. I only learned about it yesterday. But I think it's fine. Among us today, there are gay people. We have one gay hero. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm sure there are gay heroes who exist.”
There. You see ? Nothing wrong with it.
But I don't think he was ever really "straight" before that. He never had a girlfriend or a wife or anything. He only had a loopy sister that he was very overprotective of, and it was kind of creepy. To me it seems like his character could have gone either way, and Scott Lobdell stepped up to the plate and decided to take a big forward step and integrate another facet of society, a very tumultuous facet in fact, into comics. And he was the gay Alphan before he was the gay X-Man anyways. lol
Stan Lee has always been awesome. Most of the heroes he introduced were white, but then again look at the times, early 60's. If it wasn't a white character, it wouldn't have sold. But later on when it became accepted he never shyed away about using anyone and everyone. Christopher Priest, an african american comics writer, who started out in the 70's with an internship has said only the best things about Lee. Despite all others who would boss him around or call him boy or rub his head, he said Lee never once did any of those things and only ever treated him with respect like he did everyone else.
Isn't it ironic that Stan Lee created the whole x-men comic to depict the evils of prejudice, fear and hate and yet there are some people who read the comic and still miss the message. I don't know maybe the message has been lost in later years with it all turning more and more towards bigger and bigger fights between "Good" and "Evil" superpowered people.
That is why I love the Ultimate universe, because it is still at the beggining when the message is still prevalent.
So what if Collosus is gay, he is still Collosus..... I am more annoyed and saddened by the death of Beast than the sexual preference of Collosus.
the bad thing though, is that completely changes his character's relationship and reaction to kitty pryde. hence, it's no longer a younger, more relevant colossus, it's a completely different character. with nick fury, race doesn't necesarily change his character dynamic in relation to other characters.