The Official Symbiote Thread

Originally posted by kiekan
Hey, hey..... I don't think it was only directed toward women..... I like chocolate too. Dang.... now I wish I had some, lol. Thanks for the compliment, though.

But yeah, I thought the whole pain munching thing from Venom: The Hunger was pretty killer. My only question is... why did it take so long for the cravings to kick in? Peter wore the Simbiote for quite a lengthy time and never had the urge to gobble up someone's brains....

-shrugs- maybe he just wasn't bonded long enough, er something.....

I know you don't have to be a woman to like it, but I'm sure I got alot more out of the story than you, even if you did enjoy it.

Kiekan--are you a Transformers fan?
The reason I ask is so I can provide an analogy that requires a familiarity with the episode that I'll mention. I think it happens late in the second season, after the creation of the dinobots.

All Transformers on Earth begin to run low on energy and malfunction (or something like that, I can't remember everything) --they will eventually shut down--essentially die, because they lack Cybertonium--an element found on Cybertron and installed in all of the Transformers, EXCEPT the Dinobots, who were created on Earth.
So, the Dinobots go to Cybertron on the Decepticon-built spacebridge to Iacon to get the necessary element to perpetuate the lives of all Transformers on Earth.
The analogy, of course, is to demonstrate that it takes time for certain needs to arise--as in the depletion of (and need for) Phenethylamine by the symbiote. That is the deficiency that caused Venom's hunger and urge for human sweetbreads. I doubt you'll find a more descriptive explanantion on this forum, so I hope it's good enough. 😄

*que the cool transformers theme*
dun dun, den dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun

Ahh yes, FreakFest, that'd be when Pike (a villain from the Image comics world, I beleive (could be wrong though)) bonds with a temporary spawn of the Venom Symbiote. It happens at the end of the two part cross over titled 'Spider-man and Backlash'. Which is just that, a cross over with Ben Reilly and Backlash as they team up to fight Venom and Pike (lol, I feel like I'm doing a commercial). Probably my all time favorite Spidey cross over, with some great art and killer action.

As for the Transforms thing, can't same I'm a huge fan or anything, but it's cool. Though, I rather dislike the newer series (the original and several of the Beast Wars series were awesome, though). But that analogy is perfect. Thanks a bunch.

I dont understand a thing you said except for the transformers part.

I liked beast wars and how it tied in with the old series. I also liked the old transformers. anyone remember the one before the minicons were introduced? thats what I thought. that one sucked. NOW GET ON TOPIC!!

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS COMIC YOUR MAKING US ANGRY PRESCIOUS!!! YOU WONT LIKE US WHEN WERE ANGRY!!(blatant matrix rip-off) IM CRANKY OH NO PAOLA IS GONNA GET ME!!!

For you, darlin', it was my pleasure. 😉

man Venom really must be drooling really hard over spidey.

Nope, that's just me.

Originally posted by kiekan
Honestly, I think its completly logical as to why Venom comes in to the fight all the time. As well as the reasoning behind why he doesn't kill good 'ol Pete.

You must take into consideration that Venom (Brock mainly, whom has convinced the Symbiote into his believing this) believes that he is the cause to Carnage's creation. OK, lets think, what does Carnage do? Simply goes around slaughtering people for the fun of it (litterally).

Venom on the other hand, tries to protect whom he dubbs innocent. Their goals contradict one another, causing the continuous battles that they've gone through to come about. Its simply the fact that Venom hears word of another Carnage rampage/killing spree and goes out to stop it. Generally (though, there are some exceptions as always) Spidey just happens to get there first, making it appear that Venom is 'saving him'.

As for why he doesn't just kill off Spidey. Well you have to think about what time period your talking about. There could be the truce in place (refer to Amazing Spider-man #375), or Venom actually appreciates the help he received through Spider-man. Many times, Venom cannot beat Carnage on his own (purly to the fact that Carnage is stronger in almost every way) and must have aid somewhere. This is usually done through Spider-man.

Though, there are also times when both Spidey and Venom win on their own without the other's aid. Some examples would be Venom: Carnage Unleashed (for Venom obviously), in which Spidey is not even mentioned. Also, on Spidey's behalf, Ben Reilly has to battle him mentally in the story 'Web of Carnage' (Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 1) #410, Spider-Man (Vol. 1) #67, Spectacular Spider-Man #233) as well as his battle with Carnage/Carnage Cosmic in Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 1) #430 and #431.

Those are very good points. It's just, I dunno, Spidey and Venom saving each other seems kind of cliche to me these days. As for Venom appreciating Spidey's help, it's a given. If it's after the "Hunger" storyline, I could say that Venom would be willing to help Peter because he saved Eddie's life (but then again, he also doomed him and the symbiote to live with cancer for the rest of their lives). If it's before that, then Eddie would absolutely hate Spidey for ruining his life, as well as for his ex-wife's suicide. It just seems kinda contradictory for Venom to see Spidey as an ally one moment and then want him dead the next. But, that's what makes Venom so complex, so I can appreciate it in a way.
I never did read Carnage Unleashed. I've been looking for it in the back issue bins, but can never seem to find it. And even though Spidey didn't need Venom to help him in the Cosmic Carnage story, he did need Silver Surfer. I'd rather have Spidey beat Carnage one on one, or at least attempt to, without having to be rescued. Let's remember, this is the man who took on the Juggernaut single-handedly. I have a good idea how I'll end this story, though. It won't involve any heroes saving Spidey's butt, though.

no jessica i sent you my part it's where he saves your sorry ass and does a fort footj ump from your hotel

now if you will exscuse me i have to go slice off ocelot's hand

*noisesi n the background*

my hand ! stealth camoflaudge cant you even die right you were lucky well mett agin

who are you

im like oyu i have no name

*end background noises*

Reading assignment:
"And the Darkness binds us" by Dread, at superherohype.com.
3 stars and a hella lotta hot mullet lovin'.

woh woh WOH there lil' fella.

hey blaque cell, did you take someone else's avatar?

that is, or maybe was, feceman's avatar.

hmmmm, ... newbie.

Play nice- GG. Blaque Cell is an honored guest and author.
Now, will you tell your symbiote to stop humping random women's legs- or do we have to get the sonic guns out?

NOOOOOOOOO HOW WILL I TELL THEM APART. NOW I HAVE TO READ THE NAME

😆

Now, that was funny--even though it was at mine and Red's expense. But, I'm secure enough to be able to laugh about it.

Besides, Goblin, he hasn't been around long enough to even know Fece from Adam. I haven't seen him here for at least a couple of weeks, if I had to guess.
"SO BE NICE, OR WE'LL RIP YOUR FRIGGEN LARYNX OUT WITH OUR TEETH!"
Pardon my other...we get carried away sometimes.

Originally posted by Ghetto Goblin
woh woh WOH there lil' fella.

hey blaque cell, did you take someone else's avatar?

that is, or maybe was, feceman's avatar.

hmmmm, ... newbie.

I didn't know someone elese already had this avatar. I just got here three days ago. I already had this picture saved on my computer. No big deal, though. I got millions of other pictures to make an avatar out of.

more andom mgs background noises by grey fox (that involve grey fox)

im a prisoner of death only you can free me

stop fox what about naomi she's hell bent on getting revenge for you

naomi...

(end various background noises)

the worse thing they donne to venom was to make him loose his memory and go after spiderman again, that sucks
they have nothing else to write so they dig the old things, vulture, shocker (who had abdicted the crime), octopus (who was dead), goblinn and norman (both dead), and all marvel unecessasry enconters, like spider and xman, the old first we fight then we ally into a common enemy, and FF and xman.marvel sucks..........marvel sucks
if all bad boys can come back ( thin on the romita administration who said no one would come back from death)
i wanna gwen to be a evil clone maker , who hated peter for killing her father and the one we saw dead to be a pupeteer, so we can see gwen back. DIE MARVEL DIEEEEEE

badsymbiote, could you please scan WolVenom soon? It is the only symbiote/human combination I am missing a picture of.

I've got it covered.... This is the first page to show the character:

Thank you so very much kiekan!