Originally posted by badsymbiote
Yes, but nothing you can't live without knowing. You may want to add Army Communications Specialist Patricia Robertson to your Venom list--aside from a few more inconsequential assimilated victims, you got the basics here...
Eh, I do not count Venom's tongue as Venom, so Robertson does not belong on my list. I am trying to assemble a full symbiote/host gallery for Venom and Carnage. So if any of those inconsequential assimilated villians alter the symbiotes appearance, please tell me who they are.
I'm not exactly certain how to answer your question, fox. Symbiote bonding is a tricky situation, and I think the best way to elaborate is to say that I think many factors play into the end result.
The subject's will, for example figures into the equation via their free will or resistance to the union. When Eddie Brock was presented with the opportunity to bond with his symbiote, he did so whole-heartedly--(I think this made the bond much stronger than if the symbiote were to assimilate someone opposed to the merger)
The host's physical characteristics, traits and attributes also affect the outcome. I guess that's about as well as I can explain it.
Different host+ different circumstance+ different personality= different end result.
Originally posted by badsymbiote
Oh, Blaque Cell--you changed your avatar because of what Goblin wrote? You shoudn't have done that. You didn't know, and the guy he spoke of (who uses it, too) is not unreasonable.
Well, at any rate, it was mighty nice of you to change it--shows that you're a good sport and all.
Goblin forgets that he was new once, too. And we were nice to him. You don't have to prove anything to any of us. You're Blaque Cell, damnit! That's good enough.
It's all good, babe. Besides, I kinda like my new avatar better, anyway. Let us not forget, before Venom and Carnage, there was the Black Spider-Man.
Originally posted by badsymbiote
I'm not exactly certain how to answer your question, fox. Symbiote bonding is a tricky situation, and I think the best way to elaborate is to say that I think many factors play into the end result.
The subject's will, for example figures into the equation via their free will or resistance to the union. When Eddie Brock was presented with the opportunity to bond with his symbiote, he did so whole-heartedly--(I think this made the bond much stronger than if the symbiote were to assimilate someone opposed to the merger)
The host's physical characteristics, traits and attributes also affect the outcome. I guess that's about as well as I can explain it.
Different host+ different circumstance+ different personality= different end result.
Thats completly true, but I think there is more too it. If you look around the issues just after Pete's first seperation with the symbiote, the alien breaks out of the Fantastic Four's HQ and tries to hunt down Spidey. Though, it wouldn't bo by itself, it would do so by bonding with random city folk. Every time this happened, the person was not willing to bond with the creature (or so it appeared at least), and yet the end result looked identical to how Spider-man looked when bonded to the Symbiote. The only difference being the size and build of the two melded (as you've talked about, if the host was taller or had a bigger build, the final result would match this).
I think the appearence originally comes from the melding of any given Symbiote with it's first host. During that time, the creature takes on an appearence that the host finds to be attractive or look good, which is done through the mental link created by the two. In Peter Parker's case, he was thinking about how good Julia Carpenter's (or the second Spider-Woman) costume was, and when he came in contact with the Symbiote, the alien mimiced Julia's costume, the only exception was that it looked to be made for a male.
I think that if the Symbiote seperates from its first host, then it will carry on characteristics from it's first melding. In Venom's case, its the overall design of the costume (White eyes, with black body suit, white spider insignia, ect.), though with each new host it takes on newer characteristics as a means of serving it's host.
In Brock's case, he was thinking of revenge and instilling fear into people. Because of this, the Symbiote modified it's appearence to give the wanted look. Though, another thing I believe also plays a huge (if not bigger than the actual story related reasons) part in the appearence of a Symbiote is the artist's style. Originally all Symbiotes, whether seperated and a single entity or melded with a host followed a basic design which would gain slight variations when each Symbiote met it's host (Color(s), facial structure, ect.).
As for weapons (or form of attacking/fighting), which I s'pose could fit into appearence, this seems to very from host to host. The Symbiote seems to decide upon this factor based on the host's personality. In Brock's case, though, I think he's an exception. The Symbiote seems to still care to much for the relationship it had with Parker and decided to stick with his style's (and I believe that Brock didn't have much objection to this either). In Casady's case, he was sadistic and wanted only to kill. His Symbiote took from him what he thought to be a good means of doing this and began shaping itself into bladed weapons.
In the new art, it seems many of the artists wanted to to turn Venom into more of a monster. Because of so, they modified his appearence to give to try and give this effect. Which is basically how I view Scotty Young's design of the character.
and as simbiote u should only consider venom, carnage and his spring, all other simbios from life foundation, were quickly escketches for a new suit, like they are all like carnage, venom, and spiderman, in looking, only the girls are really diferent , and that must be cos they are woman and their hair , made some bad time for someone to fit in.
I would like to get some other fans' opinions on an essay I read recently by Corey Bond. His web site or column is "View from Oblivion," I believe. The essay is entitled "The Alien Symbiote." It was probably originally written before PlanetOTSymbiotes, so it would need some revising to fit in with our current understanding of them. The central premise, however, is still pretty convincing to me. I really think it's got potential for interesting storylines... what do others think?
The author gives that as one of their functions- but his concept is more expansive than that. He says they were organic self-replicable constructs designed to aid their creators in space exploration. Living spacesuits for a mysterious, now extinct intelligent species. The article is very interesting...