Originally posted by Entity
Then how does he turn into the black smoke? And Dogen told Sayid that he would look like some one he'd known that had died. Didn't sound like he thought it had to be Locke! 😕I know I had the same thought when Jack smashed the mirror, I was sure that was Locke pretending to be Jacob to mess with him. I was telling my girlfriend even before thats why I bet he'd told them to save Sayid as soon as he died and when they got to the mirror that he was meaning to piss him off and mess with his head. But I was having the same doubts after hearing them say he was stuck as Locke now. Then Richard said not to trust the Jacob they'd been seeing and I'm right back to believing its really UnLocke again.
The black smoke is his true form I suppose. I think the smoke monster only takes form of the dead which is why dogen said that. Doesn't mean that MiB is pretending to be jacob.
They tried saving sayid, probably so that he wouldn't die and become alive again and serve Esau. But they didn't save sayid.
Should rewatch the episode "The little prince" when they find their camp (which could be the camp that ilana and them are currently at.)
Who did juliet shoot? And why did the time flash occure when she shot?
We know for a fact that every time something significant happens, the time flash occurs. Like them being needed to do something in that time period to move on, you know?
So juliet obviously shot someone. Lost wiki says that portion occured in 2007 (or later) which is whats currently going on in the island... possibly.
Originally posted by S_D_J
Does that mean that all the candidates are immortal like Richard?
We don't know if Richard is immortal... or JAcob for that matter. They may have been travellking through time. In the last episode Richard was disappointed that jAcob told him his life had a purpose and that he had been waiting for that his WHOLE life... Now, I found it striking that he didn't say 'hundreds of years'. Maybe Richard was a child aboard the Black Rock when he arrived.
So I'm not to sure reaching an enormous age is key to the island.
Originally posted by Neo_Version 7
I don't understand how people can think all candidates are immortal when Locke was killed by Ben.
I mean Immortal as in they won't grow old and die of natural causes... And in the case of Richard, he simply doesn't age...I also think it's pretty clear that they won't die by their own hands, they have to be killed by someone else.
If Jack had left Richard alone inside the Black Rock, it would have exploded and killed Richard, but he stayed, and since it was him who lighted the fuse, the dynamite simply didn't go off, because it would have been suicide... and you can't kill yourself, as stated literally by Richard
Originally posted by queeq
We don't know if Richard is immortal... or JAcob for that matter. They may have been travellking through time. In the last episode Richard was disappointed that jAcob told him his life had a purpose and that he had been waiting for that his WHOLE life... Now, I found it striking that he didn't say 'hundreds of years'. Maybe Richard was a child aboard the Black Rock when he arrived.So I'm not to sure reaching an enormous age is key to the island.
I think it's pretty safe to assume that Richard had the same age (or in this case looked the same age) when he arrived at The Island aboard the Black Rock than what he appears to be in 2007... We'll find out in a week 🙂
Originally posted by Neo_Version 7
^ With that reasoning, does that mean Michael was a candidate or was the island legitimately messing with him?
I believe all the Losties were candidates...except, maybe not the women? I noticed that Kate was not listed as a remaining candidate on the cave walls. And only 1 Kwon was listed, which could be just Jin. The women being left out.
But then again, Bernard wasn't listed as a candidate either. So really, I have no clue.
Kate is indeed listed, Her name was in the Lighthouse
51 - Austen
both Cuse and Lindelof have said that she's in both list (the cave and the Lighthouse) it's just that it wasn't shown, they also said both lists are the same.
Dunno about Michael, but none of the characters have died by their own hands (or on their own intention), something/someone has killed them
Originally posted by S_D_J
Kate is indeed listed, Her name was in the Lighthouse51 - Austen
both Cuse and Lindelof have said that she's in both list (the cave and the Lighthouse) it's just that it wasn't shown, they also said both lists are the same.
Dunno about Michael, but none of the characters have died by their own hands (or on their own intention), something/someone has killed them
I didn't look close enough at the one in the lighthouse, is her name crossed out?
Originally posted by Neo_Version 7Someone had a theory that all the people touched by jacob cannot kill eachother or themself.
I don't understand how people can think all candidates are immortal when Locke was killed by Ben.
Ben wasn't one touched by jacob. I believe jack tried to shoot locke once and failed.
As for the person above me. That seems correct. Then again this show always mind ****s us when we're onto something.
Originally posted by S_D_J
I think it's pretty safe to assume that Richard had the same age (or in this case looked the same age) when he arrived at The Island aboard the Black Rock than what he appears to be in 2007... We'll find out in a week 🙂
Why is that? You have absolutely no reason to assume that at all. We know way to little. Either they don't age or they are time travellers.
But they didn't shout it. It is still a possibility, same with Jacob BTW: does he age or time travel? The latter wouldn't need him to not age.
And it would have been different if Richard would have said that he had been waiting for 400 years or so for Jacob's words to come true. But he said: all his life... That certainly allows for a loop hole. Maybe Jacob and Smokey went out to collect him.
Originally posted by queeq
Why is that? You have absolutely no reason to assume that at all. We know way to little. Either they don't age or they are time travellers.
haven't seen tonight's episode yet, but next week it will be a Richard episode, so if they show something about it in the previews will know whether he was young or look the same age, and I'm pretty sure he will look the same age he has since the 50's... and everybody knows that
Originally posted by Mairuzu
I don't think he's a time traveler. I'm sure he would have been able to comprehend what was going on with Locke when they were all traveling through time.
there's that as well
Originally posted by LanceWindu
I didn't look close enough at the one in the lighthouse, is her name crossed out?
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:51_Austen.jpg
It isn't... it seems... though I think I heard her name in the cave was crossed out 😐
