why are you an atheist?

It didn't take Christians to realize slavery was wrong, besides how can you prove a single person disagreed? Believing that killing and stealing are wrong goes back a lot further than Christianity.....
You're the one who brought up slavery, people in those states should have been able to work it out for themselves.

By the way, the priests being reassigned? That has been reported in the news and that can be proven by the fact a guy was at one church and then is suddenly transferred after the controversy. Maybe that hasn't come up in the UK, I don't know, but don't imply I'm making it up....

"Wrong. People throughout history, e.g. Aristotle would disagree. It's Christian morals that bias us."

This statement makes no sense -- Aristotle lived waaaaay before Christianity existed.

Originally posted by BackFire
"You need the mind of an amoeba to do this. It's a simple thing, and he'd have to be high not to work it out. Some are, and are thus caught."

A truley insane person does not have the mind of an amoeba, they will not consider the consequences. These guys did, thus they are not crazy.

"I can. Other societies haven't managed to evolve our morals. So there's proof. Getting testy?"

That is not proof, in fact, that has nothing to do with anything. That has nothing to do with our religion, just our society.

"Was it? I thought that it was that with the tricky ones, that due to biological evolution are sound, have been swiried by Christianity."

Nope, the original argument was "Morals stem from religion". The answer to this is obviously a big fat "NO", considering there were morals well before religion.

1. A truly insane person does easily have the mind of an amoeba. Otherwise they couldn't walk.
2.
3. There's a difference? Religion supplies the morals, or the philosophers supply the morals. Atheism is a recent development, so most moralists were Christians.

4. Pity. But my argument stands, as it is right. Christianity is a special tool kit.

Originally posted by Silver Stardust
"Wrong. People throughout history, e.g. Aristotle would disagree. It's Christian morals that bias us."

This statement makes no sense -- Aristotle lived waaaaay before Christianity existed.

Sorry, I though that the statement was the people realised that slavery was wrong, not that Christians did.

K, you should have stated it a bit more clearly then.

And as long as people have had beliefs in God(s) or some other higher being there have been atheists -- how is it a "recent development?"

Cardinal Law also blamed one case of abuse on the six-year-old victim; he claimed that the boy "made himself available." Just so you know...

Atheism isn't a recent development.......

So, uh, because a society doesn't think or believe like you do means they haven't evolved? Wow, that's probably something for a different forum altogether......

"A truly insane person does easily have the mind of an amoeba. Otherwise they couldn't walk."

Do amoeba's lie and try to hide bad things they did?

"There's a difference? Religion supplies the morals, or the philosophers supply the morals. Atheism is a recent development, so most moralists were Christians."

Again, the main morals of humanity existed far before any religions.

"Pity. But my argument stands, as it is right. Christianity is a special tool kit."

A special took used by "special" people.

Originally posted by Cipher
It didn't take Christians to realize slavery was wrong, besides how can you prove a single person disagreed? Believing that killing and stealing are wrong goes back a lot further than Christianity.....
You're the one who brought up slavery, people in those states should have been able to work it out for themselves.

By the way, the priests being reassigned? That has been reported in the news and that can be proven by the fact a guy was at one church and then is suddenly transferred after the controversy. Maybe that hasn't come up in the UK, I don't know, but don't imply I'm making it up....

1. Yes, killing and stealing are exceptions. It did take a Christian, and I disagree with slavery. Pity Americans are not intelligent enough.

2. You've proven it, and I believe you.

Originally posted by Ytaker
3. There's a difference? Religion supplies the morals, or the philosophers supply the morals. Atheism is a recent development, so most moralists were Christians.

It's not. The Greek Anaxagoras was an atheist. And persecuted by religious folk because of it. Some things never change.

Slavery existed before Christianity did, therefore there were people who disagreed with slavery before Christianity existed.

Originally posted by Cipher
Atheism isn't a recent development.......

So, uh, because a society doesn't think or believe like you do means they haven't evolved? Wow, that's probably something for a different forum altogether......

It wasn't a obvious though whilst the church could have your burnt

You agree with female circumcision then?

Originally posted by Ytaker
1. Yes, killing and stealing are exceptions. It did take a Christian, and I disagree with slavery. Pity Americans are not intelligent enough.

2. You've proven it, and I believe you.

Again, most of the advocators of slavery were Christian.

Originally posted by Silver Stardust
Slavery existed before Christianity did, therefore there were people who disagreed with slavery before Christianity existed.

You have to be outside the bubble to count. I disagree with school, being a student; but only an outsider can see the whole picture.

Originally posted by Ytaker
It wasn't a obvious though whilst the church could have your burnt

That still doesn't make it a recent development...atheism isn't just not believing there's no Christian God. It's believing that there's NO higher power out there, period.

Originally posted by BackFire
Again, most of the advocators of slavery were Christian.

Yup. Everyone was an advocater of slavery. There's a statement in Blackadder about it, whilst they're buying a vote. The butlet series. Watch it and see. It's incredible that anyone could disagree. Anyone. It was obvious to Christians that slavery was right. It was obvious to all. Till a genius came along.

Originally posted by Silver Stardust
That still doesn't make it a recent development...atheism isn't just not believing there's no Christian God. It's believing that there's NO higher power out there, period.

Wait... Some of the greek philosophers were atheists. You're right.

And I'm pretty confident that if that same man came along and wasn't Christian he'd still disagree with slavery.

Originally posted by Ytaker
Yup. Everyone was an advocater of slavery. There's a statement in Blackadder about it, whilst they're buying a vote. The butlet series. Watch it and see. It's incredible that anyone could disagree. Anyone. It was obvious to Christians that slavery was right. It was obvious to all. Till a genius came along.

I know you're ignoring everybody but Backfire, but if anyone else is reading this thread, they might be interested in knowing that the famous Athenian statesman Solon opposed slavery. It was obvious to everybody in Athens that slavery was right, too. But not Solon. And he sure as hell wasn't a Christian, living before Christ and all...

.......who decided that?

No, I don't agree with it, but there are people who think male circumcision is wrong. Just because a society doesn't think like me doesn't mean they're not "evolved". That's not a smart way of putting it because you make it sound like they are less human than you....