why are you an atheist?

Originally posted by Barakus
breaking the 1 of the ten commandments results in a blocked access to heaven.. agreed? then why in the lords prayer does it say 'fogive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us' surely that implies that god will fogive us if we make a mistake!

I don't believe in the Almighty Fella being discussed here, but Barakus has got a point. (And I'm not baised, if he were spouting crap I'd be the first to tell him). If we're supposed to 'forgive all trespassers' and 'turn the other cheek', then why would entry to heaven be denied? Surely if we forgive sins and have ours forgiven in return, we would be theoretically cleansed and able to enter heaven? It's such a hugely contradictory subject, seriously. Especially regarding the fact that 'turn the other cheek' can be immediately countered with 'an eye for an eye.....'

yep I am, but I sure ain't tell my parents that

here aer my 2 theories on this whole thing.
1. there is no god because if he's infinite; and he created us, shouldn't we be infinite in power and knowledge
2. there is just soe odd reson we got here because if he "created" us why wouldn't he put us on other planets

to 2: how do u know he didnt put us on other planets?

Originally posted by Gregory
I would like to point out at this time that the Buddhists were once terribly persecuted, and they, like the Chistians, are still around. Hell, the Jews were being persecuted by the Romans before Christianity even existed.

I remember that during the six-year oppression of Buddhism, it got so bad that some scholars were forced to retire to a silent life of reflection. Till the emperor's son (the new emperor) showered them with gifts. You'll have to teach me more on that, as my knowledge is lacking of serious oppression.

Then the Jews... Would you say they were persecuted? Rome was about order, and persecution was not an option for a whole nation, if they wanted peace (after war, and conquering obviously). As long as they paid taxes, and bought roman goods, would the Romans persecute them? That wasn’t their style. It’s notable that the Jewish leaders could influence Pontius Pilate enough to change his decision. This wasn’t a slaughter like with Christianity.

well how would you have liked to be a jew during the Spanish inquisition

Originally posted by finti
well how would you have liked to be a jew during the Spanish inquisition

the christians persecuted the jews because they were of a different religion, as whether they were established religion or not doesnt make a diffrence at all.

Originally posted by finti
the christians persecuted the jews because they were of a different religion, as whether they were established religion or not doesnt make a diffrence at all.

When did they do that? I remember persecution due to the financial stability Jews had, the fact that (as the Christians saw it) Jews had sentenced God to death, but not because they were a different religion.

When did they do that?

Originally posted by Ytaker
I remember that during the six-year oppression of Buddhism, it got so bad that some scholars were forced to retire to a silent life of reflection. Till the emperor's son (the new emperor) showered them with gifts. You'll have to teach me more on that, as my knowledge is lacking of serious oppression.

Khmer Rouge, Cambodian dictator, had over 60000 Buddhists murdered, used their temples as execution chambers. Not sure who you're thinking of.

Originally posted by finti
spanish inquisition

They killed everyone, regardless of rank, faith, religion, gender etc. I mean when did they kill Jews because they thought that the Religion should be exterminated.

when did they kill Jews because they thought that the Religion should be exterminated.

Originally posted by Gregory
Khmer Rouge, Cambodian dictator, had over 62000 Buddhists murdered, used their temples as execution chambers. Not sure who you're thinking of.

The first emperor in Buddhism’s early years was the guy. The guy you're talking about attacked them as an established religion, and also he was easy to oppose, as everyone hated him. He killed millions of innocent people. Christianity was attacked early on, by the always-victorious Roman Empire, and their former countrymen. Harder to oppose.

Christianity was attacked early on, by the always-victorious Roman Empire, and their former countrymen. Harder to oppose.

Originally posted by finti
just as christianity was forced uppon the norwegian until there was no one left alive to fight back for the old ways.....or so the christians believed but the rituals survived

Rituals are good. Which ones are you talking about?

the rituals of the Norse mythology like blood offering to Odin ,Thor and all the other god and godesses

Originally posted by finti
just one example ....during the black plague, jews were killed by the thousands because a smaller percentage of jews than chrisitans chaught the plague.

Again, everyone was slaughtered due to this. From long ago history lessons, I remember that they blaimed all foreigners. No special exceptions for Jews there.

No special exceptions for Jews there.

Crusaders from the first crusade forced all jews in jerusalem into a synagog and put it on fire.

The second crusade, here it was called for the destruction of the jews.
Jews were pesecuted in England in the end of the 12the century the crown claimed all the jewis prosessions and most of their houses were burned

Originally posted by finti
they blaimed the jews the most,
just some other examples
the Justinian Code passed by emperor Justinian, the code prohibited jews from building synagogues, reading the Bible in hebrew, assemble in public, celebrate passover before easter, and testify against christians in court.
pope Leo III outlawed judaism. Jews were baptized against their will, guess what happen to those who resisted?.

Crusaders from the first crusade forced all jews in jerusalem into a synagog and put it on fire.

The second crusade, here it was called for the destruction of the jews.
Jews were pesecuted in England in the end of the 12the century the crown claimed all the jewis prosessions and most of their houses were burned

I'd have to know how they acted to judge. If a group was annoying, then most early kings would stop them to protect their nation. Religon's one thing, but the safety of your people has to come first, if you're the boss.

That's an army, and a pillaging one at that. They were half mad with hunger and thirst, and had seen too many of their buddies killed. So everyone in Jerusalem was killed. Again, not a focus.

I don't know about that. I just remember that it was unsucessful. Can you give me a source.