why are you an atheist?

Originally posted by Arahael
I'm an Atheist because I lost my complete faith in all things religious.

Just out of blatant curiosity, what caused this complete turnabout?

I am not an atheist, but I believe in my own form of a God. My religion is based upon the Catholic Teachings, but is more open and forgiving, as that is what I gathered God to be in the first place.

So, in a sense I am somewhat atheistic, but on the other hand I am not.

Originally posted by TheProgramSmith
I am not an atheist, but I believe in my own form of a God. My religion is based upon the Catholic Teachings, but is more open and forgiving, as that is what I gathered God to be in the first place.

So, in a sense I am somewhat atheistic, but on the other hand I am not.

Agnostic, seems to suit you better.

I'm not an atheist, but I can certainly understand it. I question religion and god's regularly. There are so many contradictory factors that lead to my general skepticism. How can there be one all powerful God who created all life...who created him? I know I know, he just WAS. Well, to me that is a load of crap. Science tells us one thing and religion another, but science is backed up with proof. What does religion and the bible have? Holes, gaps, mysteries and questions.

Originally posted by Canadian Moose
I'm not an atheist, but I can certainly understand it. I question religion and god's regularly. There are so many contradictory factors that lead to my general skepticism.

Which is strange because it is generally deturred by most religious organizations.

Originally posted by Canadian Moose
I'm not an atheist, but I can certainly understand it. I question religion and god's regularly. There are so many contradictory factors that lead to my general skepticism. How can there be one all powerful God who created all life...who created him? I know I know, he just WAS. Well, to me that is a load of crap. Science tells us one thing and religion another, but science is backed up with proof. What does religion and the bible have? Holes, gaps, mysteries and questions.

....contradictions, baised opinion, far too much generalisation etc etc.

Isn't it true to say that where there is a case, evidence is necessary? Innocent until proven guilty, or vice versa? Well, why does the Bible get to avoid that? My reasons for having inclinations towards science are exactly that. Proof, evidence and historical fact, none of which the Bible can lay claim to.

Originally posted by Syren
....contradictions, baised opinion, far too much generalisation etc etc.

Isn't it true to say that where there is a case, evidence is necessary? Innocent until proven guilty, or vice versa? Well, why does the Bible get to avoid that? My reasons for having inclinations towards science are exactly that. Proof, evidence and historical fact, none of which the Bible can lay claim to.

And what they DO lay claim to, is mired in controversy. The Shroud of Turin, long believed to be Christ's burial cloth, proved by science to be fraudulent. People invest SO much time WANTING to believe, NEEDING to believe, that their judgement and vision become clouded.

But why get so wrapped up in the material items? Like the Ark of the Covenant, the Holy Grail, the Shroud of Turin, and so on.

Religion requires FAITH, not Fact.

Originally posted by TheProgramSmith
But why get so wrapped up in the material items? Like the Ark of the Covenant, the Holy Grail, the Shroud of Turin, and so on.

Religion requires FAITH, not Fact.

That is because faith is ALL you have. The Shroud of Turin, the Ark, the Dead Sea Scrolls, none of it matters, you're right. But faith based on WHAT exactly? Faith in words? Faith that Noah was 900 years old when he died? Faith that God created the earth in 7 days, but Dinosaurs ruled for Milions of years? What is the faith based on? Words?

Originally posted by Canadian Moose
That is because faith is ALL you have. The Shroud of Turin, the Ark, the Dead Sea Scrolls, none of it matters, you're right. But faith based on WHAT exactly? Faith in words? Faith that Noah was 900 years old when he died? Faith that God created the earth in 7 days, but Dinosaurs ruled for Milions of years? What is the faith based on? Words?

Tha faith is based on the need to believe in something right? And then all of these objects that have been proven to be fake, well, they were 'created' so as to give the faith a more solid grounding.

Originally posted by Syren
Tha faith is based on the need to believe in something right? And then all of these objects that have been proven to be fake, well, they were 'created' so as to give the faith a more solid grounding.

Precisely. Reinforcement for something that may or may not be true. Listen, I would LOVE to believe in a God that created man in his image, and that we all get a fairy tale like in the afterworld, but it's so hard to comprehend it, given science's profound effect on the beginning of life.

Originally posted by Canadian Moose
What is the faith based on? Words?

Belief that there is somebody out there who cares.

Originally posted by finti
I didnt talk of hte early chrisitians I talked about more modern times

Sorry, but are you completely ignoring my point? There is evidence that a divine power exists, as otherwise that shouldn't of happened. Don't ignore that point.

I would like to point out at this time that the Buddhists were once terribly persecuted, and they, like the Chistians, are still around. Hell, the Jews were being persecuted by the Romans before Christianity even existed.

i haven't got a clue what i am?!? 😕 im more inclined towards christianity for the simple fact that im scared of believing that life ends when you die, and yet with all the shit that happens in the world how am i supposed to believe that there's a god watching over us all?

Originally posted by Barakus
With all the shit that happens in the world how am i supposed to believe that there's a god watching over us all?

God cannot put an end to evil. Evil begetting evil is not how it works. And God cannot be evil

Originally posted by TheProgramSmith
God cannot put an end to evil. Evil begetting evil is not how it works. And God cannot be evil

True. But God is also meant to be all forgiving, i didn't eat the fruit from the tree in Eden and yet i'm still suffering the consequences of Adam and Eve's sacrilegeous mistake!

God is not all forgiving. He slaughtered thousands of men, women, children and infants.
I mean, hell, do you know what the punishments are for breaking one of the ten commandments?

There is evidence that a divine power exists, as otherwise that shouldn't of happened. Don't ignore that point.

Originally posted by carnival_junkie
God is not all forgiving. He slaughtered thousands of men, women, children and infants.
I mean, hell, do you know what the punishments are for breaking one of the ten commandments?

breaking the 1 of the ten commandments results in a blocked access to heaven.. agreed? then why in the lords prayer does it say 'fogive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us' surely that implies that god will fogive us if we make a mistake!