why are you an atheist?

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
im an atheist because i dont believe in god..lol, why do i not believe in god, because no one has any proof what so ever, nor can anyone give me an argument that i cannnot pick apart, simply because the whole of the christian belief in god is based upon a book filled with so many contridictions as well it is all just simply opinion and backed up with no facts....i need poof or at least a valid argument from someone in order to accept that i might be true, unfortunatly i have never heard an argument that i couldent pick apart....if some could do it then yes i would accept the possibility of a "god" as for now..i have no reason to

That's a major point. But then, we can pick apart your arguements too. For instance, your book filled with contradictions. Tell me the ones that aren't answed on http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/bible.htm, Or even better ask the people who wrote the list. The best idea if you want to test whetehr there's evidence is to go to a good church (ask around, there's bound to be a few) and ask the pastor for some reading tips, on subject. The Case for Christ, for Christ as an example. A ton or so of evidence is waiting.

The best idea if you want to test whetehr there's evidence is to go to a good church (ask around, there's bound to be a few) and ask the pastor for some reading tips, on subject. The Case for Christ, for Christ as an example. A ton or so of evidence is waiting.

Originally posted by finti
evidence of jesus being divine doesnt exist, it is based on faith and faith has never been any kind of evidence. Nor could they provide evidence for the existense of god.

Look at the resurrection. You believe that the bible is based on true events, switched to work for God right? See if it would work without a touch of the supernatural. Give me your view of what really happened, and I'll point out any flaws.

Look at the resurrection. You believe that the bible is based on true events, switched to work for God right?

I think we are here based on a cosmic reaction that happened loooooooooong long time ago in a galaxy far away, what caused this reaction I have no idea, maybe we will no in the future somehow.

So if we find proof that most of the bible is true, you'll admit that we're right and become a Christian?

So if we find proof that most of the bible is true, you'll admit that we're right and become a Christian?

Originally posted by finti
just because the authors of the bible borrowed some authentic persons and happenings to liven up the biblical stories doesnt make the stories of the bible true.
I can make a fiction using todays situation in Iraq and involv real people but the story itself wouldnt be real though.
And there is no way you and others that make up the we part can prove ANYTHING from the bible is true....................at least not to me.

I'm saying, you believe that the bible is primarily based on reality, but artfully switched to help God (which is reasonably close to your beliefs). There's a serious amount of stuff we can prove. If you will accept that certain facts are true when given outside evidence (e.g. Josephus the historians words), Then you should have an idea of what actually happened. So what do you think happened to Jesus during the time that he allegedly resurrected?

Testimonium Flavianum: about this time lived Jesus, a wise man, "if indeed one ought to call him a man". For he was the one who wrought surprising feats and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. "He was the Christ". When Pilate, upon hearing him accused by men of the highest standing among us, had condemned him to be crucified, those who had in the first place come to love him did not give up their affection for him. "On the third day he appeared to them restored to life, for the prophets of God had prophesised these and countless other marvellous things about him". And the tribe of Christians, so called after him, has still till to this day not disappeared

Some of that's false, and I've quotationed that. But what do you think of the death of Jesus, with the knowledge that something did happen.

I'm saying, you believe that the bible is primarily based on reality

So what do you think happened to Jesus during the time that he allegedly resurrected

and for Josepheus, I dont take things he wrote for the actual truth.

I never denied the fact that a man called jesus or something simmilare went around judea preaching stuff that the jewish elders and hihg priest found challenging. He probably challenged the enire base of their authority. This jesus would today probably be looked upon as a hippie or a communist. Even so he was a treat to the established jewish elite so he had to go, what i dont buy is this divine crap the lable on this man

Ahh, an objection to make;
If you think that he died, why were his disciples willing to die for him (in very painful ways)

In history, it's normal to take people's word as the truth, as they don't often lie. They're normally biased. I'm afraid you have to apply that to Josephus.

The reason is that his followers had enough faith to build up a Church. They believed that he was divine.

If you think that he died, why were his disciples willing to die for him (in very painful ways)

The reason is that his followers had enough faith to build up a Church. They believed that he was divine

Originally posted by finti
no people often chooses to follow a for them leader and suffer the consequences of that choice, like sombody who tries to revolt and looses

Originally posted by finti
a church that threw out all that didnt happen to see it their way, very much like the actions of the leadership this jesus supposidly challenged.

Why would they continue, and continue so well that they lasted up till now? I cannot think of many a failed rebellion that has lasted for more than a millenia

The Romans pursued them and put them in the amphitheatre with lions! They were attacked early on. Don't say things that are disproved by obvious fact like "the Romans liked the Christians early on"

The Romans pursued them and put them in the amphitheatre with lions! They were attacked early on. Don't say things that are disproved by obvious fact like "the Romans liked the Christians early on"

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Do you care to explain what that thing is? Or you going to make me spend the rest of my life in a hole of curiosity?

Well, I have no idea what the thing in question is, I just read the quotation 😕

Try clapping your hands and saying "I believe in fairies." 😄

Makes as much sense as deities and angels, something that can't be seen but a person decides is real.

Try clapping your hands and saying "I believe in fairies

YTaker> Your link is broken.
I have here 331 Bible-contradictions for you http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

“A ton or so of evidence is waiting.” WHERE?

The Testimonium Flavianum is missing from early copies of the works of Josephus and was not quoted by Christians until the 4th century, which seems strange since it was supposedly writ-ten around 93. The Christian writer and theologian Origen (185-254) quotes freely from Josephus yet never makes note of it. Bishop Eusibus, who said it was permissible for Christians to lie to further Christianity, is the first person to mention the passage in the 4th century.
Curious...

I'm an Atheist because I lost my complete faith in all things religious.

Originally posted by HiddenPotential
Its mind boggling to me, so why?

a common misconception about atheism is that we only dont believe in the christian god.
that is untrue.
atheists subscribe to NO deities what so ever. No religion. No afterlife.

It's not that mind boggling.
The reason I'm atheist is that I have found no religion that actually made sense and was believable and logical.