Measure the distance from the tip of you head to the floor, then divide that by the distance from you belly button to the floor, you get PHI.
Apparently not, as I just tried that and got 1.9, not 1.618.
This whole concept of 'phi' is nothing but an assumption because it is impossible to test every single thing, and I just proved it wrong right now.
Originally posted by debbiejo
PHI proves that there must of been a designer. If you go all the way back to beginning to the first atom, or molecule. Who made that??There had to be a designer, something can't come from nothing...
First, PHI is not proof that nature is designed any more than it is proof that PHI itself is the result of nature.
Second, the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics indicates that it is possible for the universe to have always existed.
And finally, if everything is subject to efficient causation, then so is God.
The 2nd law of thermodynamics is
As processes in nature occure, the tltla inergy reservoir is reduced to simpler forms with consequent increase in what has been termed "entropy" As energy is used it becomes less availible for further use. Part of the energy spent to produce something is always lost by radiation, friction, or other effects. It becomes non-recoverable heat dessipating in space. Ultimately, as things are going, the entire universe will end up being filled with a stangnant mass of low-level heat energy.
The first law of thermodynamics says....
All existing processes of nature merely change energy from one form to another, In nature, energy is neither created or destroyed. Matter itself (which is potential atomic energy) is maintained at a constant level. Processes change mater and energy from one form to others but the total quantity of energy is the universe always remains the same.
Your making a big leap from what paragraph said.
Energy....hum....Could a designer be energy???? A Creator can not be created or destroyed. So, that fits..
Heres something interesting about scripture.
1.l The first law speaks of a total creation originally completed and now sustained by Gods power.
2. The second law speaks of the curse of decay and death, brought on by man's sin, and causing an overall degeneration in everything.
Just a thought.... 👆
Originally posted by debbiejo
Energy....hum....Could a designer be energy???? A Creator can not be created or destroyed. So, that fits..Heres something interesting about scripture.
1.l The first law speaks of a total creation originally completed and now sustained by Gods power.
2. The second law speaks of the curse of decay and death, brought on by man's sin, and causing an overall degeneration in everything.
Just a thought.... 👆
Ahh...but if a creator was that initial energy and matter, then it wouldn't exist anymore!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by debbiejo
[B]The first law of thermodynamics says....
All existing processes of nature merely change energy from one form to another, In nature, energy is neither created or destroyed. Matter itself (which is potential atomic energy) is maintained at a constant level. Processes change mater and energy from one form to others but the total quantity of energy is the universe always remains the same.
A Creator could give part of it's self to change energy to matter. It fits.
Life is not the result of random processes but the result of random processes in conjuntion with the laws of physics.And finally, if everything is subject to efficient causation, then so is God.
Though I disagree, why exactly would laws exist without something to enact them?
Anything that isnt eternal, is.
I did a net search myself and found one for you with great pictures.
www.evolutionoftruth.com, then click on search, then type in PHI
Also, www.goldennumber.net
good luck