why are you an atheist?

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Storm and Silver Starfish

I was NOT trying to defend the notion that God exists. I was trying to motivate full fledge Atheists to prepare and produce sound evidence for their beliefs. As previously stated, many people on these forums have nothing intelligent to say, only words of deceit. I'm a Christian. Your an Atheist... so be it. I'm not trying to engage in a tug-a-war match. I'm trying to have safe and constructive conversations about our vast beliefs.

By saying, "Prove it!", I wasn't speaking directly to you. I was speaking to forum members to present their case. You happened to pick up on it first. Please read my messages carefully. If I was out of line in any of my messages, I apologize. Moving on.

Whoever stated that people are raised to believe certain things is (to a small degree) correct. However, it's dangerous to sterotype! That's not a fair statement. All apologetic books I have regarding Christianity were written by Atheists who converted to Christianity. If what you say is correct, how do you explain such a thing? Yes, I have ex-Atheist teaching me about Christianity! Read up on C. S. Lewis or Lee Strobel. Also, check out Josh McDowell or Jack Van Impe.

Christianity is based on fact, not what ones parents or neighbors think. Yes, as a child your parents do have a great amount of influence on you. If you were raised to be Republican, you may grow to be a Republican. But, it's not true in all cases. The fact that my father may be a Baltimore Ravens fan doesn't subject me to gaurantees that I'll be one. Frankly, I may not give a crap about Football all together! The same can be said about religion.

Point is, people tend to discover and experience things on their own as they mature and grow as adults. We all have minds with power to reason, and analyze facts.

C. S. Lewis, an Atheist who set out to disprove Christianity became one in the process.

In the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist - in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless - I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality - namely my idea of justice - was full of sense. Consequently Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. "Dark" would be without meaning. - C. S. Lewis

As for people being punished and killed over defiance to religion; maybe so? So much non-sense goes on in this world that I'm not even going to begin to prove you wrong. Your probaly right. And if by chance you were wrong, I wouldn't know better... because I lack knowledge on that topic!

On the same token, time and time again throughout history, Christians have also been martyred for their beliefs.

Let's start over.

Atheism is the belief that there is no deity or the absence of a belief that there is a deity.

In the case of the former, they have analyzed the available material evidence for the existence of one or more deities and have concluded that there is no real evidence of the existence of gods or goddesses.

At most, they believe that the universe and its life evolved by natural processes. At least, they see no evidence of intervention by a supernatural entity.

Therefore, the burden of proof is on the theist to provide sufficient material evidence for the existence of God.

Therefore, the burden of proof is on the theist to provide sufficient material evidence for the existence of God
indeed, we who dont buy it dont have to prove the nonexistence

The burden of proof always lies with the person who is making a claim, not the person who is hearing the claim and who may not initially believe it. In practice, then, this means that the initial burden of proof lies with the theist, not with the atheist. Both the atheist and the theist probably agree on a great many things, but it is the theist who asserts the further belief in the existence of a god.
If a claimant cannot provide that support, then the default position of disbelief is justified.

Exactly.

the question is u r u not an athiest

darwin was right

I'm and Atheist basically because i don't Believe in religion. I have no Religion and don't Believe in god. I will not get punished for my beliefs either😄

lets be very honest here, you have to have some sort of "faith" to believe that god does exist and that god does not exist. For obvios reasons you have to have a level of faith to feel that god is real and around you and at the same time if you feel there is no god and rock+rain+time=life is accurate your also using a level of faith. I have done research and studies about evolution and life spawining out of nowhere and i have found so many wholes in it it is insane. Allot of the "evidence" backing it up as well can be disputed very easily as well. But i am not in here to drag you through the mud or any of that but i would like if anyone has any "proof" backing up evolution or any of that please feel free to post it here. I am not afraid of anotehrs opinions and i enjoy to hear otehr views other than my own. I am also always open for any information you have found on this subject.

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts

This may sound stupid but i could only ever beleive in God is if i met him. Everyone Beleives in somthing but i do not beleive in God. I dare tell you my theory becuase i might get considerd as insane😛

First, I would ask you do you believe in history? Random question, but that might make me understand an antheist's thought process.

How would you explain the creation of planet earth, let's forget about the universe for now. Someone has to start building. An initiative has to be taken. Who took the first step? IF the theory is to be able to see and believe, then we are ignoring so many facts of life as the solar systems, planets, universe... etc.

I guess one can conclude that the existance of God is a theory that can not be proven. Just as evolution, we can not provide facts that will satisfy ones five senses.

Existence of God is not a theory, though. A theory requires evidence. It is nothing but faith.

Has anyone ever checked out the number PHI and it's relationship to God??? It might make a believer of you... 😄

^ Care to explain?

What relationship between pi and god?

And no, a fictional relationship between a number and god will not make me a believer...NOTHING will. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Silver Stardust
And no, a fictional relationship between a number and god will not make me a believer...NOTHING will. Deal with it.

You never know, I might turn out to be a moderate some day. 😉

feceman "care to explain?"

Not Pi, but PHI. PHI is generally considered the most beautiful number in the universe. 1.618 - PHI. It had Divine Propportion, in nature and in man.
Female bees always outnumber the male bees. If you divide the number of female bees by the number of male bees you always get the same number, PHI.

A cephalopod molllusk has a chambered shell and the ratio of each spirals' diameter to the next is PHI.

A sunflower's seed head grows in opposing spirals. The ratio of each rotation's diameter to the next is PHI.

Same with pinecone petals, leaf arrangement on plant stalks, insect segmentaion. It's concidered the "Divine Proportion."

It's in the human body. Measure the distance from the tip of you head to the floor, then divide that by the distance from you belly button to the floor, you get PHI. Measure the distanace from your shoulder to your fingertips and then divide it by the distance from you elbow to your fingertips, you get PHI. From the hip to the floor divided by the knee to floor, PHI. finger joints, toes, spinal divisions. All PHI

Life is not random...
I'll say this again, even Albert Einstein said "God Almights doesn't throw dice" Life isn't a bunch of random events.... 📖

Originally posted by debbiejo
Life is not random...

Life is not the result of random processes but the result of random processes in conjuntion with the laws of physics.

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originally posted by adam poe
Life is not the result of random processes but the result of random processes in conjuntion with the laws of physics
originally posted by debbiejo
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evolution debbiejo