Batman vs Spiderman

e could take maybe one hit, from spidey at half strength, an his webbing could smother him, its 120 lbs. per millimeter thick.

You mean it has a tensile strength of 120 lbs per a millimeter of thickness, which means, of course, that a strand a millimeter thick can support a maximum weight of 120 lbs before snapping.

This has nothing to do with its abilities to smother Batman.

Or as intelligent, resouseful, or versatile for that matter.

Actually, Bane is incredibly intelligent, resourceful, and versatile. He out-thought the Batman and not only broke his body, but his spirit as well. Current Bane is a joke compared to the original, and based on what he did to Batman, it can be argued he's better than Spidey in the strategy/tactics department.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
You mean it has a tensile strength of 120 lbs per a millimeter of thickness, which means, of course, that a strand a millimeter thick can support a maximum weight of 120 lbs before snapping.

This has nothing to do with its abilities to smother Batman.

Yes, it isn't what I meant by that term, the webbing would be like syrup, but steel cable type webbing going in an orifice of the body, would be impossible for bats to remove, in the throat and nose especially, it would actually be a fatal, and out of character move for spiderman, but he could do it, and it would be effective.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
Actually, Bane is incredibly intelligent, resourceful, and versatile. He out-thought the Batman and not only broke his body, but his spirit as well. Current Bane is a joke compared to the original, and based on what he did to Batman, it can be argued he's better than Spidey in the strategy/tactics department.

Yes, bane has lost his touch, its just simply the lack of agility he has, causes him to fight on spidermans terms, but he can counter one wrong move of spiderman, and he could have serious trouble, bane is usually seen as unintelligen, like spiderman is seen as weak

good post.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
His style is more unorthodox, but he can hand it to opponents in unique style. He easily has more skill and dexterity, to surpass the bests martial artists without training, and even their training wouldn't help, they simply aren't strong or fast enought to keep spidey off of their game.

Spiderman hardly uses his brute force anyways, even when he's been taxed.

He could take maybe one hit, from spidey at half strength, an his webbing could smother him, its 120 lbs. per millimeter thick.

No, you can't use spidermans sup par feats, but you can use batmans best.......

Or as intelligent, resouseful, or versatile for that matter.

People like to explain, when and not how.

Just a slight chance in the what if?

Originally posted by StrawNilla
Yup. I guess the Batman supporters would rather gloss over this little tidbit of information.

Fighting styles are great against opponents in your reletave league, by this nonlogic, batman should be using his fighting styles on everyone.

[/B]Spiderman hardly uses his brute force anyways, even when he's been taxed.[/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by StrawNilla
Uh-huh, he takes the saying "with great power comes great responsibility" VERY seriously.

In the Venom comic, brock was trying desperately to kill spidey, and spidey only goes," Brock don't make me hand you one, you seriously don't know how strong I am.

[/B]He could take maybe one hit, from spidey at half strength, an his webbing could smother him, its 120 lbs. per millimeter thick.[/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by StrawNilla
The Batman supporters tend to ignore this, they tend to ignore everything that doesn't have anything to do with Batman winning.

Sadly and unbiasedly true, there is no mention of bats limitations too often, but there are some bat debators that know what they are talkingg about, and actually believe he can win, I respect that, because bats has handled great foes, Its just hard to logically explain how he should win.

[/B]No, you can't use spidermans sup par feats, but you can use batmans best.......[/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by StrawNilla
Hey? What other way is there to prove that Batman could win?

Read previous post.

[/B]Or as intelligent, resouseful, or versatile for that matter.[/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by StrawNilla
In the words of Jim Carrey when he took the role of Bruce Noland in Bruce Almighty: "And that's the way the cookie crumbles!"

I know bats is great but he has been brought up some to match the standards of the other leagers, and he is shown often to do great things, so he wont' appear disposable, because he is famous.

[/B]People like to explain, when and not how.[/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by StrawNilla
No secret there.

Knowing this is half the battle.........

Just a slight chance in the what if? [/QUOTE] [/B][/QUOTE]

In the Venom comic, brock was trying desperately to kill spidey, and spidey only goes," Brock don't make me hand you one, you seriously don't know how strong I am.

Brock or Brock as Venom?

Originally posted by Wanderer259
Brock or Brock as Venom?

It was the new venom, which was in some ways worse since Eddie Brock was not as in tune with his Symbiote, and would stop at no means to kill spiderman.

Spiderman had got the symbiote in anger of his dad being tricked( his and eddie's father had worked on it), but a large company took the project, which was a suit designed to cure cancer, and spiderman (peter) took it and it got over him, he enjoyed the enhanced powers for a while, until the symbiote wanted to kill an enemy who had just murdered a man, ( the symbiote saw peters tension and duress with the memories of uncle ben) and lost control.

Spiderman disposed of the first copy, brock agreed aat the time,( and learned peter was spiderman), then got angry and showed his true side, stealing the symbiote and murdered 2 people, fighting peter outside of his school.

It was the new venom, which was in some ways worse since Eddie Brock was not as in tune with his Symbiote, and would stop at no means to kill spiderman.

Spiderman had got the symbiote in anger of his dad being tricked( his and eddie's father had worked on it), but a large company took the project, which was a suit designed to cure cancer, and spiderman (peter) took it and it got over him, he enjoyed the enhanced powers for a while, until the symbiote wanted to kill an enemy who had just murdered a man, ( the symbiote saw peters tension and duress with the memories of uncle ben) and lost control.

Spiderman disposed of the first copy, brock agreed aat the time,( and learned peter was spiderman), then got angry and showed his true side, stealing the symbiote and murdered 2 people, fighting peter outside of his school.

I see what you're talking about, but that's also Ultimate Spidey and Ultimate Venom. Isn't this about 616 Spider-Man?

Yes I believe so, but he was just implying the strength sorry.

No one's ignored anything (well not everyone anyway.) They've just countered and you and others have refused to accept said counters.

they haven't explained how which is usual for these types of fans they explain when, getting the debate nowhere.

Wanderer is one that does give a decent counter worth responding to. 😛

What do you mean when?

As in this happened here making it good proof, and don't explain why especially if its' a one trick feat.

Thats all.

That's a blatant lie, I and others have used only consistant feats. I don't have a scanner and looking for pages I've read on the internet is a *****. That's the best I can do most of the time.

No I don't have one either, I said the feats where ALL , that were used, but where one trick pony feats, like batman beating up "hulk" or blah, blah , blah, and weren't explained how logically, making it good proof if someone asks, but not a counter, what can I say about whats already been written, but, cool it did happen. 😉

I explained it, I was just to jaded to do it again.

First off it was professor Hulk, who is not as durable as basically any other Hulk, and he was not angry in any way shape or form (he seemed to be in a rather inquisitive mood of uncertainty.) Second, he got hit In a pressure point, by a man who hits far better than Spider-man (look I changed my wording just for you!) He's also used pressure point hitting to beat Solomun Grundy so this is pretty beleivable. Third a likely response to being suprise is gasping, so it's not to hard to beleive Proffessor Hulk would do this in response to being suprised.

What's so hard to beleive about the mind beating strength? By the way this also backs my point that Batman mentally dwarfes parker. You sure as hell aint gonna tell me that Spidey is smarter than Banner. Or are you?

batman...all the way

He's damned close spidey's nothing short of agenius, and matches bats science wise, but not detective wise

then again, a genius IQ is only 140, i'm past that and I'm sure some of you are too. 😉

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Batman's suit isn't something as you make it seem when he gets himself in trouble with the common thug at times , he's been souped up to match the JLA, imagine the batman that ran and got tired, batman has solved threats much like spiderman except he has a team of superheroes to back him up.

Well the same can be said for spiderman getting jumped by normal thugs. A mean who is the one with the spidersense and super-strength. In the case of thugs getting the drop on superheros spiderman has got is worse because he is the one that can sense danger with the danger sense. I guess the spidersense isn't something as you make it seem when he gets himself in trouble with the common thug at times.

he's been souped up to match the JLA, imagine the batman that ran and got tired, batman has solved threats much like spiderman except he has a team of superheroes to back him up

Yes batman is one of the founding members of the JLA, he is the one who designed the JLA tower, destroyed it and even designed a better one. And Wayne Enterprise is one of the major corporation that endorses the JLA. Of course he is going to get souped up. And besides batman solves the mysteries first before calling the JLA if he needs back up.

an super-strength is a factor when he ripped Iron Man's 2020 armor, and people saying it has no effect on anyone is getting quite old, no offense, because this is my first time against you.

Iron Man's fighting skills are less than adequate, the only reason he is able to stand toe to toe with major power is because of the immense power in that suit. So it is no surprise to me if spiderman ripped his suit up.

[Quote]Originally posted by StrawNilla
Could you please tell me what material Batman could have possibly used to stand up to a force such as a punch form a ticked off Superman of th

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Well the same can be said for spiderman getting jumped by normal thugs. A mean who is the one with the spidersense and super-strength. In the case of thugs getting the drop on superheros spiderman has got is worse because he is the one that can sense danger with the danger sense. I guess the spidersense isn't something as you make it seem when he gets himself in trouble with the common thug at times.

Yes and his spider sense is not as sufficient against milder threats, and spiderman holds back on those guys anyway, if he used his superstrong webbing to hurt them, or hit them good, they would die, its that simple, the sense is cream on the cake, whil the suit, is the cake.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Yes batman is one of the founding members of the JLA, he is the one who designed the JLA tower, destroyed it and even designed a better one. And Wayne Enterprise is one of the major corporation that endorses the JLA. Of course he is going to get souped up. And besides batman solves the mysteries first before calling the JLA if he needs back up.

Yes, he is great, but they show him active to keep him that way, remember that batman that was once human?

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Iron Man's fighting skills are less than adequate, the only reason he is able to stand toe to toe with major power is because of the immense power in that suit. So it is no surprise to me if spiderman ripped his suit up.

You put too much emphasisi on skill, and not experience. Skill is great but spidey has adequate experience, and can take on the best of the best with his unique style. Batman could never beat iron man, or thanos or some others like hulk, who don't use skill " but do what they do just fine". Many people get a blakc belt quickly, only to get handed by those who have fought, and can controltheir emotions.

......StrawNilla on this quote of mine that you replied on show me were I did not give you references to check my claims.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Interesting StrawNilla....and I guess batman being the world greatest detective has nothing with him being able to solve global and Universal treats. RIGHT!!!🙂

Solving them, and handling them alone are two different things, he has guys like the MM helping him, that plays a crucial role.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
I think Strawnilla have just found a common ground between bat's and spidey. Even though Bat's surrounds himself with the bat family but he always keeps them an arm's length away. Never getting to close but never letting them out of sight.

Spiderman and Batman are very similay, but spiderman has more reliable wins in this case, while batman is a "what if " winner.