I've been trying to be pretty objective actually 😕 ... if I believed Batman would win more often than not then I would argue in his favour... imo my rundown of what traits each character has as an advantage, though you're welcome to disagree.
Advantage Spiderman
Strength
Speed
Agility
Reflexes
Range and maneuverability
Overall fighting efficiency
Academic intelligence
Precognition
Advantage Batman
Fighting technical proficiency
Weaponry
Strategic intelligence
Durability to piercing injury
Neutral
Durability to blunt force trauma injruy - Spiderman's is genetically enhanced while Batman's is artificially enhanced by his body armour.
Experience - Batman should be 66 years old and Spiderman should be 43... instead since Spiderman started fighting crime in his teens, Batman began at an older age but as he's probably older I'm just assuming they have the same amount of experience overall.
Originally posted by jinzinThat doesn't take away from the fact that NOBODY knows how hard they were swinging. You have no idea whether or not Spidey can hit him as hard as they chose to hit him. We do know the weren't punching anywhere near full power. Far from it. For all we know Spidey can hit harder than they were hitting Batman. Now do you get it?this however does not take away from that fact that these characters even holding back a TON of their power are still capible of hitting harder than spiderman.
Originally posted by jinzinRead what the captions say in the pic. Are you trying to tell me the Darkseid, Supes, WW or even Spidey can't do way more damage if they tried? You said WW wasn't holding back? So it was a superspeed punch too then?and when have bullets rend through his armor?
Originally posted by jinzinWhere? I've seen Ultimate universe Spidey get shot and he lived.
I've seen batman take a full clip to the chest, walk through the gunfire and one punch KO the guy on the other side of the firearm...batman's also taken point blank shotgun buckshots to the torso and just kept comin....
spiderman.....he's been shot once and died.....
I hate that picture of Batman. The way his armor and the bullets are behaving is just... stupid. Although the caption does mention that the bullets are shattering the plates.
batman's also taken point blank shotgun buckshots to the torso and just kept comin....
If he did that without his armor, it's not only crap writing, it's absolute BS. Even with the armor, that's crap writing.
I can accept a shot from a handgun being averted and bruising Bruce underneath, but anything more than that is just stupid. Batman may have armor, but it's not on par with the Iron Man system.
Originally posted by Batman Wins
Ok do do this tooSuperman Adavantage, everything
Batman advantage is a piece of kryptonite.
🤨 I have no idea what relevance this has to the discussion.
Originally posted by Batman Wins
Yeah basicaly It doesnt matter who has the advantage.
Same wthing with Spidey
In this particular fight Spiderman has an advantage in speed, strength etc (see above) while Batman has an advantage over Spidey in weaponry, strategic intelligence etc (see above).
How does someone having an advantage over his opponent not matter when it comes to a fight?
Originally posted by MythThen you really shouldn't have voted here. You should save that for the "Who's cooler: Bats or Spidey?" Poll. This is about who wins in a fight. I think you'd have still been wrong though. Much cooler? Than Spidey? Come on now! Bats has a cool factor, but he's not cooler than Spidey. I guess this pic just screams cool to you doesn't it?
I voted Batman simply because he is much much cooler. Not to mention, he saves just as much without the powers as Supes does with super powers. Imagine Batman with Superman powers. ✅
Originally posted by brainchild81
Then you really shouldn't have voted here. You should save that for the "Who's cooler: Bats or Spidey?" Poll. This is about who wins in a fight. I think you'd have still been wrong though. Much cooler? Than Spidey? Come on now! Bats has a cool factor, but he's not cooler than Spidey. I guess this pic just screams cool to you doesn't it?
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Originally posted by lifeisaglichAlien dogs who can walk up walls in an amazing and spectacular fashion🙂
I saw this....and it does not hurt my case none....You know why it is just showing you guys that batman has lost battles before even if it is to alien dogs..😆
Originally posted by lifeisaglichBatman AND Nightwing must've been taking on an Amazo who forgot about being invulnerable as Supes, intangible like MM, or fast as s**t like the Flash. That does more to make Amazo look sh*tty than Batman look tough. You guys should post pages.
A toned down amazo is an amazo that batman can win agaisnts but the fact that Amazo was only missing a GL ring and a Lasso only speaks volume in favor of batman standing toe to toe with the big boys.. no matter how big they are....
Originally posted by lifeisaglichAnd the award for "worst misuse of one of my favorite expressions" goes to you. You gotta make sense when you try to be witty.
Here is the kettle.....calling the pot black....Isn't it the same reason why you guys kept shouting that spiderman hurt the hulk...
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I've been trying to be pretty objective actually 😕 ... if I believed Batman would win more often than not then I would argue in his favour... imo my rundown of what traits each character has as an advantage, though you're welcome to disagree.Advantage Spiderman
Strength
Speed
Agility
Reflexes
Range and maneuverability
Overall fighting [B]efficiency
Academic intelligence
PrecognitionAdvantage Batman
Fighting technical proficiency
Weaponry
Strategic intelligence
Durability to piercing injuryNeutral
Durability to blunt force trauma injruy - Spiderman's is genetically enhanced while Batman's is artificially enhanced by his body armour.
Experience - Batman should be 66 years old and Spiderman should be 43... instead since Spiderman started fighting crime in his teens, Batman began at an older age but as he's probably older I'm just assuming they have the same amount of experience overall. [/B]
I really liked the way you put this I just don't find it all that cut and dry...for instance, where spiderman has more exadurated and impressive LOOKING agility...batman is comparitively agile for a human being...because agility is more of a defensive asset it really won't help either attain a victory, instead it helps avoid being defeated...while batman's agility isn't on par with spidey's it is comparitive and it is capible of dealing with avoiding and out maneuvering spiderman's offensive capibilities...
speed...spiderman has about a 12% faster moving body than batman and is more resistant to fatigue...but batman can more easily anticipate his movements as he has no formal training to have learned not to telegraph attacks....for a master tactician like batman this is a HUGE disadvantage even when you ARE faster (i.e. deathstroke/flash).
I'd definitely say batman has better range but that's simply due to his weapons....
intelligence of any sort goes to batman....wit however would be spidey's territory....
to clarify, I really don't disagree with your points...just making an observation that there are other factors that come into play when determining how stats are used in an actual confrontation..
<<<<"That doesn't take away from the fact that NOBODY knows how hard they were swinging. You have no idea whether or not Spidey can hit him as hard as they chose to hit him. We do know the weren't punching anywhere near full power. Far from it. For all we know Spidey can hit harder than they were hitting Batman. Now do you get it?">>>>
with his suit, captain marvel hit him with a lightning bolt and all it did was knock batman unconcious, and this was after batman was in a hrd fight with hawkman......are you guys seriously trying to imply that spiderman hits with more destructive force than a lighting bolt? ummmmmmmm no. Batman also took a swing from darksied....now I know you guys keep saying darksied wasn't trying to kill batman because he needed batman's information...but it was obvious that darksied was pissed off and in the heat of the moment...now you guys already said that spiderman hits harder than batman....(which I agree) but one of your reasons was that spiderman's faster....basically claiming that speed equates to power...in the pic mentioned above....darksied was literally a blur....so he obviously wasn't holding back "that much".....and then batman got thrown hard enough to put a crater in a thick stone wall......all he had to show for it was a couple stiches and busted up arm....spiderman isn't going to hit that hard all out or not....
Now as far as superman goes....you're telling me that spiderman can KO a guy with a flick to the face, but superman had his arm cocked, his eyes glowing red, and was screaming when he hit batman in the head, and was still holding back up to 98% to 99% of his full power?.......ummmm no....try and throw your arm out at a punching speed and make contact with something, even holding back you're still putting force out there comparitive with the speed used...hence the whole, darksied being a blur argument...
<<<"Where? I've seen Ultimate universe Spidey get shot and he lived.">>>
in an issue of amazing..I don't remember which...but it was an older version of the 616 spidey...if you want to get into alternate universes..I respond with elseworlds vampire batman and spiderman gets his ass hammered....
<<<"Read what the captions say in the pic. Are you trying to tell me the Darkseid, Supes, WW or even Spidey can't do way more damage if they tried? You said WW wasn't holding back? So it was a superspeed punch too then?">>>
well if this is the case batman obviously didn't have his spectra suit on....are these characters not supposed to be at their best to some extent...I would assume the same goes for batman...
Originally posted by jinzinThat might just be the lamest comparison ever Jinzin. Real world humans get struck by lightning without protection and survive. You must be sleepy.Click here
with his suit, captain marvel hit him with a lightning bolt and all it did was knock batman unconcious, and this was after batman was in a hrd fight with hawkman......are you guys seriously trying to imply that spiderman hits with more destructive force than a lighting bolt?