Originally posted by jinzin
I guess.......considering they have....
anyways....I get what you mean but still....batmans got the crap pounded outa him by a 8 to 10 tonner and he was fine.....spiderman gets knocked out by a normal guy too....and everyone just blows it off....I really don't know what else you want me to say....
They want you to say that Spiderman wins so they can continue on with their fanboy delusions.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
They want you to say that Spiderman wins so they can continue on with their fanboy delusions.
Question: how come that all the KMC-members who have pics of their favorite heroes/villains under their names and signatures and so on - in most cases more than one picture - are always the first to call somebody else a "fanboy" when they lose a debate ?
Alright now I've done some thinking about why I'm absolutely positive that Batman, despite his level of skill would fall to Spidey in a straight up battle and I think that this might just end the argument. The Spider-man that would fight Batman would not be plagued by any of his usual hang-ups because he should at least know that to lose this fight is to die so we should assume that he is as focused as he has ever been and Batman is as well. Spider-man does not have to confront batman H2H to snare or injure him because he can utilize makeshift projectiles due to his Superhuman strength. He can throw extremely large objects as if they were small and his aim is superhuman so Batman would have to be on the defensive. Spider-man has shown himself to be as crafty as Batman when it comes to using whatever to put the advantages on his side so he's clearly aware of many different approaches to any given confrontation. He can also weild makeshift weapons and use them with seemingly expert proficiency. eg A stop sign is lighter than a sword to him and a hubcap is a deadly projectile. Also a 100 pound electric cable is lighter than a bullwhip to him, and a handful of gravel had better be evaded if he throws it full strength. Batman may be as durable as wolverine or moreso but Spidey has a large variety of attack options and In a life or death battle where the safety of his opponent isn't on his mind at all is capable of viscious attacks that no human could withstand.
If spidey is thirty feet away from bats and stuck on the wall he can shoot a web blanket that covers a very large area quickly and Batman had better evade it and Spidey knows that most (enemies) should try. Batman will be forced to move. Being forced to move when dealing with Spidey is very likely a mistake especially if Bats is made to leap in any direction as far as he can. All of the Bat's defense would come in handy but not if he's webbed up and spidey's definitely accurate enough to tag a leaping human with webs if he has tagged a missle while he was blind.( he was relying on the spider-sense and his hearing ) If Spidey can hit him with the webbing he can quickly engulf an opponent in it from head to toe. Bat's can attack from a distance as well but his trickery and stealth has lost an edge because of the Spider-sense. Though the Spider-sense isn't perfect It has always saved him from death shots as if the deadlier the attack the better his instincts serve him. That's my opinion but Spidey's still alive and he's avoided as many or more fatal strikes than Batman considering the many many battles he's had with characters who have powers that dwarf his and Batman's eg. Sub-mariner, Doc Ock, Doom, The tri-sentinal ( I'd love to see Batman survive inside that thing), Man-beast ( who broke the webbing faster than the hulk and fell from one punch) Sandman, Hulk , The Lizard, and Firelord. ( I really feel that Spidey won this battle within marvel continuity and It's a matter of opinion how or why but the victory was undeniably his. I think it was because Firelord was too proud to cease holding back on someone he considered to be a weakling.) Basically the point I'm trying to make is that it's highly unlikely that Bat's can just take Spidey with any weapon used from a distance but Batman has a human's endurance and cannot stay on the defensive from webline's, web balls, stones, hit and run tactics, manhole covers, telephone poles, trucks, motorcycles, web nets, web walls, webbed eyes, webbed nose and mouth, fire hydrants, and many other tactics that are at Spidey's disposal without faltering and to falter in this life or death battle is truly more dangerous for Batman who is only human and will not bounce back up if he catches a truck on top of him,a 200 mph brick in the mouth( don't even try to say spidey can't do that, cause even though Bats could evade it Spidey can still do it accurately, over and over.),or any heavy pipe swung at half strength that connects. The durability of characters in the comics are a moot point because they will survive 99.9% of whatever happens to them no matter how unlikely their odds of survival. Batman is the pinnacle of a human being but his limits are stuck at " He can't survive a free fall off of a three story building " Spidey would not be killed by a fall like this because he is Super durable. He might be injured, but he would shrug it off. Batman will falter
from Spidey's assault before Spidey would falter from batman's based on the fact that Spideys physiology is highly superior to any humans by miles. He always holds back unless he's enraged and an enraged fighter is known to fight without any tact or logic and therefore severely handicapping themselves when fighting an extremely skilled opponent. ( DD is normal as far as his physical strength and durability but has Super Senses that make him very formidable. Having said that I believe that he could not survive a half strength punch to the face from spidey because thats enough power to crack a rhino's skull.) Batman is probably the best h2h fighter in DC but you shouldn't assume that he's superior to the likes of DD, White Tiger, Silver Sable, Kazaar, Black Panther, or Wolverine, because there's nothing to say that some of these character's couldn't survive everything that's been thrown at him when it comes down to H2H combat. If Spidey is going all out for the win
then it would be difficult to show exactly what methods he would use by checking his comics because in the comics he won't fight his human enemies the same way he fights powerhouse like the hulk and Morlun.
Think about it, cracking Doc Ock over the head with an I-beam would pretty much make it a short and boring fight. Batman IS out of his league. IMO 😄
Is this over? 😕 (i doubt it) 😮💨
Originally posted by who?-kidGood post
Newsflash : we are debating about Spider-Man, who has superior reflexes and a superior sense of equilibrium, so he very very very rarely loses his balance. What you or me would do in a real fight, doesn't mean crap here.But you actually put a smile upon my face by saying : Spider-Man will punch so hard he loses his balance 😉.
"Alright now I've done some thinking about why I'm absolutely positive that Batman, despite his level of skill would fall to Spidey in a straight up battle and I think that this might just end the argument. The Spider-man that would fight Batman would not be plagued by any of his usual hang-ups because he should at least know that to lose this fight is to die so we should assume that he is as focused as he has ever been and Batman is as well. Spider-man does not have to confront batman H2H to snare or injure him because he can utilize makeshift projectiles due to his Superhuman strength. He can throw extremely large objects as if they were small and his aim is superhuman so Batman would have to be on the defensive. Spider-man has shown himself to be as crafty as Batman when it comes to using whatever to put the advantages on his side so he's clearly aware of many different approaches to any given confrontation. He can also weild makeshift weapons and use them with seemingly expert proficiency. eg A stop sign is lighter than a sword to him and a hubcap is a deadly projectile. Also a 100 pound electric cable is lighter than a bullwhip to him, and a handful of gravel had better be evaded if he throws it full strength. Batman may be as durable as wolverine or moreso but Spidey has a large variety of attack options and In a life or death battle where the safety of his opponent isn't on his mind at all is capable of viscious attacks that no human could withstand."
sound theory but it suffersseveral flaws.....spiderman has to take his attention away from batman if he's going to reach for something else to combat batman with.....now if he does this batman easily escapes his eyesight.....remember batman only needs a moment to pull off his precious dissapearing act and for spiderman it's no different.... also in pulling his attention away from batman he'll be leaving himself open to attack by batman.....sure spider man may be able to keep an eye on batman but he'll have to ground himself for a momet to grab anything off the street to hit bats with.... again this leaves him open for any of a number of weapons that batman already has readily availible....another thing is thus....spiderman tried to use this same tactic against taskmaster and it appeared to have worked when he apparently slammed a gravestone on taskmaster while he wasn't paying attention to spidey cause he was in the middle of bragging.....however when the dust settled it became very obvious that taskmaster's speed was not only sufficient enough to evade the attack....but run outside of spiderman's visability as well......this was long before taskmaster had tried his experiment with the fast forward button....and I think it's pretty safe to assume that in a battle situation a more aware batman (who has already thrashed poor tasky) will easily be able to do the same and use the dust to his advantage to dissapear.....
"If spidey is thirty feet away from bats and stuck on the wall he can shoot a web blanket that covers a very large area quickly and Batman had better evade it and Spidey knows that most (enemies) should try. Batman will be forced to move. Being forced to move when dealing with Spidey is very likely a mistake especially if Bats is made to leap in any direction as far as he can. All of the Bat's defense would come in handy but not if he's webbed up and spidey's definitely accurate enough to tag a leaping human with webs if he has tagged a missle while he was blind.( he was relying on the spider-sense and his hearing ) If Spidey can hit him with the webbing he can quickly engulf an opponent in it from head to toe."
once again this whole theory relies on batman not being able to compinsate despite the fact he's been able to do such feats before......batman can go clean through the webbing with acid....he can use razor edged batarangs to cut through it, or he can lob a grenade to blow it away... batman also has his own netting....esentially he could do the very same thing to spidey....only if spidey moves batmans has a larger varity of weapons to hit spiderman and his aim when he's on is near bullseye level.....for instance in batman year two: deal with the devil storyline. he was more than capible of dodging weapons fire from multiple attackers....in the middle of doing acrobatics....backflipping and tumbling through the incoming fire.....batman threw a capsule that went directly inside the gunbarrel of one of his assailents...his feats of aim have been equally if not more impressive coming from a human level character.
" Bat's can attack from a distance as well but his trickery and stealth has lost an edge because of the Spider-sense. Though the Spider-sense isn't perfect It has always saved him from death shots as if the deadlier the attack the better his instincts serve him. That's my opinion but Spidey's still alive and he's avoided as many or more fatal strikes than Batman considering the many many battles he's had with characters who have powers that dwarf his and Batman's eg."
comparing who's survived more fatal strikes is comparitive....it really doesn't make a difference in this fight.....comparatively....batman has been crippled. batman has been broken on multiple occasions....batmans survived much more fatal occurances than spidey especially considering that spiderman as super strength and a healing factor....compared to batmans willpowering himself out of traction....batman's still more impressive. as far as spiderman's spider senses go...I still defer to the white ninja just an ordinary man who was vastly superior to the aeverage joe due to his fighting ability...he stalemated spidey in a fight where spidey was PISSED....OFF....this guy was just a regular human with well trained fighting skills batman definitely falls in this category....and then some....
" Sub-mariner, Doc Ock, Doom, The tri-sentinal ( I'd love to see Batman survive inside that thing), Man-beast ( who broke the webbing faster than the hulk and fell from one punch) Sandman, Hulk , The Lizard, and Firelord. ( I really feel that Spidey won this battle within marvel continuity and It's a matter of opinion how or why but the victory was undeniably his. I think it was because Firelord was too proud to cease holding back on someone he considered to be a weakling.)"
submariner?- superman doc ock?-daredevil took him out...batman's much more versatile and dangerous than the man without fear even daredevil writers have admitted to this (on more than one occasion matts been compared to a powered down batman with extra senses) tri-sentinal?-give batman some cosmic powers and see how well the tri sentinal does against him.....without them batman still has more than enough to put it away....How many gigantic killer robots have tried to take down cap and cap using just his sheild not only survvived but beat them.....man-beast-batman's already taken down the hulk too.....sandman?-clayface the lizard? killer croc....or man bat...whichever...firelord?-death.....yeah that's right death.....lol
but serously there were other factors that lead to spidey gaining a victory over hot head......two being that a building collapsed on top of him...and he blew himself up.....
Basically the point I'm trying to make is that it's highly unlikely that Bat's can just take Spidey with any weapon used from a distance but Batman has a human's endurance and cannot stay on the defensive from webline's, web balls, stones, hit and run tactics, manhole covers, telephone poles, trucks, motorcycles, web nets, web walls, webbed eyes, webbed nose and mouth, fire hydrants, and many other tactics that are at Spidey's disposal without faltering and to falter in this life or death battle is truly more dangerous for Batman who is only human and will not bounce back up if he catches a truck on top of him,a 200 mph brick in the mouth( don't even try to say spidey can't do that, cause even though Bats could evade it Spidey can still do it accurately, over and over.),or any heavy pipe swung at half strength that connects. The durability of characters in the comics are a moot point because they will survive 99.9% of whatever happens to them no matter how unlikely their odds of survival. Batman is the pinnacle of a human being but his limits are stuck at " He can't survive a free fall off of a three story building " Spidey would not be killed by a fall like this because he is Super durable. He might be injured, but he would shrug it off.'
spidey sprained his arm from a several story drop out of the sky....batman's fallen off of multpile rooftops and has survived every last one of them obviously....I think it has to do with his skill and his suit...but he's still okay....another thing is that you're assuming that batman will be totally on the defenssive...batman can evade and close ground at the same time...it's the same kind of tactic that he used when he beat down amazo......spiderman for all his powers and abilities is no amazo...hell he's not even a 50% amazo.....
" Batman will falter from Spidey's assault before Spidey would falter from batman's based on the fact that Spideys physiology is highly superior to any humans by miles. He always holds back unless he's enraged and an enraged fighter is known to fight without any tact or logic and therefore severely handicapping themselves when fighting an extremely skilled opponent. ( DD is normal as far as his physical strength and durability but has Super Senses that make him very formidable. Having said that I believe that he could not survive a half strength punch to the face from spidey because thats enough power to crack a rhino's skull.) Batman is probably the best h2h fighter in DC but you shouldn't assume that he's superior to the likes of DD, White Tiger, Silver Sable, Kazaar, Black Panther, or Wolverine, because there's nothing to say that some of these character's couldn't survive everything that's been thrown at him when it comes down to H2H combat."
actually we can...it's pretty well established that caps is the be all end all H2h fighter on marvel's earth...and he has consistantly proven to be so over and over again....batman is always his dead equal in h2h and he hasn't ever had to resort to usin his more deadly tecniques to fight the good cap...
" If Spidey is going all out for the winthen it would be difficult to show exactly what methods he would use by checking his comics because in the comics he won't fight his human enemies the same way he fights powerhouse like the hulk and Morlun."
now he won't he's usually a defensive fighter more attuned to his spider sense to avoid blows from said powerhouses.....when he attacks street levels though he leaves himself open for attack in return and this is basically what happens to him....but I get what you're trying to say.
"Think about it, cracking Doc Ock over the head with an I-beam would pretty much make it a short and boring fight. Batman IS out of his league. IMO
Is this over? (i doubt it) "
batman is out of his league against 75% of the people he fights...however if it was that simple it would be safe to say that batman would be daed long ago....it's not however...batman can take full on shots from clayface who sends him through walls and has enough power behind those muddy fists to put down buildings.......batman survives and overcomes the odds....that's why he's the man.......in either case this isn't going to be an easy fight for either of them........but the bat takes the spider anyday imo.....cheers and good post 🙂
the problem is...if you use this evidence to support batman...you must also admit that he is not human by real standards. You must admit that "human" is only a label they give him....but he's obviously superhuman. Everything he does is superhuman...
And you're the one who showed me the pic of him being unable to deadlift 630lbs... Well that makes his character inconsistent. No one can perform the feats batman does and not be able to deadlift 630lbs
Originally posted by jinzin
Basically the point I'm trying to make is that it's highly unlikely that Bat's can just take Spidey with any weapon used from a distance but Batman has a human's endurance and cannot stay on the defensive from webline's, web balls, stones, hit and run tactics, manhole covers, telephone poles, trucks, motorcycles, web nets, web walls, webbed eyes, webbed nose and mouth, fire hydrants, and many other tactics that are at Spidey's disposal without faltering and to falter in this life or death battle is truly more dangerous for Batman who is only human and will not bounce back up if he catches a truck on top of him,a 200 mph brick in the mouth( don't even try to say spidey can't do that, cause even though Bats could evade it Spidey can still do it accurately, over and over.),or any heavy pipe swung at half strength that connects. The durability of characters in the comics are a moot point because they will survive 99.9% of whatever happens to them no matter how unlikely their odds of survival. Batman is the pinnacle of a human being but his limits are stuck at " He can't survive a free fall off of a three story building " Spidey would not be killed by a fall like this because he is Super durable. He might be injured, but he would shrug it off.'spidey sprained his arm from a several story drop out of the sky....batman's fallen off of multpile rooftops and has survived every last one of them obviously....I think it has to do with his skill and his suit...but he's still okay....another thing is that you're assuming that batman will be totally on the defenssive...batman can evade and close ground at the same time...it's the same kind of tactic that he used when he beat down amazo......spiderman for all his powers and abilities is no amazo...hell he's not even a 50% amazo.....
" Batman will falter from Spidey's assault before Spidey would falter from batman's based on the fact that Spideys physiology is highly superior to any humans by miles. He always holds back unless he's enraged and an enraged fighter is known to fight without any tact or logic and therefore severely handicapping themselves when fighting an extremely skilled opponent. ( DD is normal as far as his physical strength and durability but has Super Senses that make him very formidable. Having said that I believe that he could not survive a half strength punch to the face from spidey because thats enough power to crack a rhino's skull.) Batman is probably the best h2h fighter in DC but you shouldn't assume that he's superior to the likes of DD, White Tiger, Silver Sable, Kazaar, Black Panther, or Wolverine, because there's nothing to say that some of these character's couldn't survive everything that's been thrown at him when it comes down to H2H combat."
actually we can...it's pretty well established that caps is the be all end all H2h fighter on marvel's earth...and he has consistantly proven to be so over and over again....batman is always his dead equal in h2h and he hasn't ever had to resort to usin his more deadly tecniques to fight the good cap...
" If Spidey is going all out for the winthen it would be difficult to show exactly what methods he would use by checking his comics because in the comics he won't fight his human enemies the same way he fights powerhouse like the hulk and Morlun."
now he won't he's usually a defensive fighter more attuned to his spider sense to avoid blows from said powerhouses.....when he attacks street levels though he leaves himself open for attack in return and this is basically what happens to him....but I get what you're trying to say.
"Think about it, cracking Doc Ock over the head with an I-beam would pretty much make it a short and boring fight. Batman IS out of his league. IMO
Is this over? (i doubt it) "batman is out of his league against 75% of the people he fights...however if it was that simple it would be safe to say that batman would be daed long ago....it's not however...batman can take full on shots from clayface who sends him through walls and has enough power behind those muddy fists to put down buildings.......batman survives and overcomes the odds....that's why he's the man.......in either case this isn't going to be an easy fight for either of them........but the bat takes the spider anyday imo.....cheers and good post 🙂
Originally posted by JWangSDC
the problem is...if you use this evidence to support batman...you must also admit that he is not human by real standards. You must admit that "human" is only a label they give him....but he's obviously superhuman. Everything he does is superhuman...And you're the one who showed me the pic of him being unable to deadlift 630lbs... Well that makes his character inconsistent. No one can perform the feats batman does and not be able to deadlift 630lbs
Good post jinzin 😎 When I reffered to the Tri-sentinal I was refering to the time that he had to go inside it and survive it's internal defense systems which were extremely lethal. He had no cosmic powers. Also Spider-mans Spider-sense is like a homing beacon when in battle and he has used it to find hidden enemies (without a tracer) many times. I also think that Spider-man is skilled enough to expose flaws in Batmans defenses where even superman would fail. DD has evasive skills that are superhuman there is no denying that so that would give him an edge in a fight against the far more powerful Ock. Even a PISSED OFF Spidey isn't going to use killing tactics on a human opponent regularly. He is almost always trying to incapcitate enemies at the most. And like I stated PISSED isn't a good way to fight. It should be an established fact that Cap couldn't stop an evil Spidey by himself at all.
Spider-mans spider-sense even tells him whether he is unseen or not so he can be extremely stealthy when he wants to be. He can definitely keep his focus on Bat's because Batman is very dangerous and therefore
a red flag for the Spider-sense. sorry for the repeat posting but I don't always get a lot of time on the computer.
Batman is human. Thanks to the training he became so much more, like Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee was human but the advancements in his art made him so much more. I tell you If Bruce Lee was still with us his art and his whole being would have held a presence so magnificent, that all we can do is to look in awe.
wang why do you think that he needs superstrength in order to accomplish super human tasks?
"Good post jinzin"
thanks man...you too.
"When I reffered to the Tri-sentinal I was refering to the time that he had to go inside it and survive it's internal defense systems which were extremely lethal. He had no cosmic powers."
I thought you might be...which is why I went to the lengths of finding all of caps showings against super powerful androids even alien giant robots that he has put down using just his fighting savvy and a sheild....batman's more than capible.....esp. since the tri-sentinal's a machine....batman has displayed ability to pick up on patterns trisentinal being a machine would enevitably have these....batman would be able to use that to his advantage.
"Also Spider-mans Spider-sense is like a homing beacon when in battle and he has used it to find hidden enemies (without a tracer) many times. I also think that Spider-man is skilled enough to expose flaws in Batmans defenses where even superman would fail."
perhaps....it's not inplausible....but he usually thinks in an "on the fly" kind of way.....he'd have to be extremely focused to find a flaw in his defenses and fighting style....spiderman when finding a flaw...is usually at home when it comes to him after his initial loss against the villain right before he goe back to use that and gain the victory....but if it were to come down to who would pick out who's flaw first....I still give that one to bats.....
"DD has evasive skills that are superhuman there is no denying that so that would give him an edge in a fight against the far more powerful Ock."
well i think you'r misunderstanding.......batman's been described as DD's superior....you're trying to imply that one of the many reasons batman might lose is because of the oponents he's fought using doc ock as one of them.... if batman's inferior can take him down...I have no doubts that batman could as well.....not to say ock's a pushover....just implying yet again.....it goes both ways.
" Even a PISSED OFF Spidey isn't going to use killing tactics on a human opponent regularly. He is almost always trying to incapcitate enemies at the most. And like I stated PISSED isn't a good way to fight. It should be an established fact that Cap couldn't stop an evil Spidey by himself at all."
(go read the death of jean dewolff story arch in peter parker spec: spider man 106 (i think, but too lazy to go look) - 110.......it's one of the best most dramatic and excellently written spiderman stories in the 80's era by far) anyway's he was trying to go for the kill by the end of the story and when DD got in his way spiderman tried to clobber him....though....you're right he lost because his pissed off state clouded his fighting ability and DD put him down......batman has more than enough tools to cloud his spider sense though.....and though your theory SHOULD be an established fact.....it won't be....sorry man....but we both know that....
"Spider-mans spider-sense even tells him whether he is unseen or not so he can be extremely stealthy when he wants to be. He can definitely keep his focus on Bat's because Batman is very dangerous and therefore a red flag for the Spider-sense."
my thing about batman disapearing into the dark was to imply batman can more than evade spiderman's attacks and play with him psychologicaly.....whether or not spiderman can "redflag" him like you claimed is debateable.....I doubt he can if batman's just hanging back in the shadows for his time to strike...I don't think that he'll be getting the drop on spidey of course and I never claimed otherwise...but he can still use the shadows to his advantage....
Originally posted by who?-kid
I think you're the last one to call someone a fanboy.
I am not the first nor will I be the last.
Originally posted by who?-kid
how come that all the KMC-members who have pics of their favorite heroes/villains under their names and signatures and so on - in most cases more than one picture - are always the first to call somebody else a "fanboy" when they lose a debate ?
Who the hell's lost a debate? How come your arguements have gotten so weak you have to resort to rhetoric? I hope you didn't pay much for it because if you did you you're getting ripped off. Stop buying that two bit rhetoric from guys on street corners and bring something to the table.
Also, please note that you're the only one who responded to this post even though I in no way said specifically that you were a fanboy.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Batman is human. Thanks to the training he became so much more, like Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee was human but the advancements in his art made him so much more. I tell you If Bruce Lee was still with us his art and his whole being would have held a presence so magnificent, that all we can do is to look in awe.
Originally posted by jinzin
sound theory but it suffersseveral flaws.....spiderman has to take his attention away from batman if he's going to reach for something else to combat batman with.....now if he does this batman easily escapes his eyesight.....remember batman only needs a moment to pull off his precious dissapearing act and for spiderman it's no different.... also in pulling his attention away from batman he'll be leaving himself open to attack by batman.....sure spider man may be able to keep an eye on batman but he'll have to ground himself for a momet to grab anything off the street to hit bats with.... again this leaves him open for any of a number of weapons that batman already has readily availible....another thing is thus....spiderman tried to use this same tactic against taskmaster and it appeared to have worked when he apparently slammed a gravestone on taskmaster while he wasn't paying attention to spidey cause he was in the middle of bragging.....however when the dust settled it became very obvious that taskmaster's speed was not only sufficient enough to evade the attack....but run outside of spiderman's visability as well......this was long before taskmaster had tried his experiment with the fast forward button....and I think it's pretty safe to assume that in a battle situation a more aware batman (who has already thrashed poor tasky) will easily be able to do the same and use the dust to his advantage to dissapear.....
And Taskmaster was running away from Spider-Man because he knew he was outclassed.
Oh yeah, remember that huge steel door - built like a safe - between Taskmaster and Spider-Man ? Spider-Man punched the whole freaking door out of its hinges with one (casual) blow.
Still think Batman can take such a powerpunch ?
Originally posted by who?-kid
If you read that story, you should also know Spider-Man was beating the crap out of Taskmaster, he only let him go because he had to take care of the fire.
And Taskmaster was running away from Spider-Man because he knew he was outclassed.
Oh yeah, remember that huge steel door - built like a safe - between Taskmaster and Spider-Man ? Spider-Man punched the whole freaking door out of its hinges with one (casual) blow.
Still think Batman can take such a powerpunch ?
Becuase anyone who performs the feats he does...will have superhuman strength...if only as a by product. You do know bruce lee was known to bench press 350lbs @ a 140lb bodyweight right?
At one point or another...you're going to have to admit to yourself that batman is the most bullshit character in existence...or he is, somehow, superhuman in many physical aspects.
I mean...you do realize this thread is batman vs Spiderman right? A normal human being with spider-man's strength...would be insanely powerful. A normal human being with spiderman's agility would be amazing too (Say like DD)...Either of those should be a match for batman...but yet somehow bats can compare to spiderman...a good fighter who has both 15X the strength of a normal human and 15X the agility?
Originally posted by jinzin
wang why do you think that he needs superstrength in order to accomplish super human tasks?