Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?

Started by whobdamandog324 pages

Originally posted by StyleTime
It's not as much of a contradiction as you'd like us to think.

Humans weren't specifically designed for aquatic travel but it's not unnatural for us to swim.

That's why we make ships you Nimwad!!! 😆

Ships are designed for aquatic travel!!!

The human rectum was never and can never be used for the purpose of procreation!!!

Unless of course..you are suggesting that scientist's have found a way to incubate a human embryo in a man's anus...😆

Everytime a male has sex with a female is it to create another being?

NO it is not.

is it comprehensible.....

Originally posted by Makedde
If gay people 'controlled' their behaiviors, they would be miserable. If you started a relationship with a person of the same sex, you'd be miserable, because you are not attracted to members of your sex.

Makedde do you choose to make dumb posts..or does it just come naturally sweety?

If Jeffrey Dhamer "controlled" his behavior and choose to not eat human flesh..he'd be miserable..

If Charles Manson didn't get a chance to kill people and sacrafice them to the Devil..I'm sure he wouldn't be to happy..

If Michael Jackson didn't get a chance to..well you get the point..

Just because one is attracted to doing "something", it does not make that something right..nor does it mean that they have to act on these "attractions" or "behaviors"

Why are you all having such a difficult time understanding this?

Originally posted by powerfulone1987
Everytime a male has sex with a female is it to create another being?

Yes but the possiblity of procreation exists between male and female...duhh..

Is it comprehensible?

Originally posted by whobdamandog
The human rectum was never and can never be used for the purpose of procreation!!!

The rectum can be used for an efficient method of birth control, then. 😛

Originally posted by whobdamandog
That's why we make ships you Nimwad!!! 😆

Ships are designed for aquatic travel!!!


Please tell me of the last time you went into a swimming pool with a ship.

And now the insults come. Instead of admitting you have no real argument you start namecalling. Just admit you have no real merit to what you say.

Originally posted by whobdamandog

Sometimes it's related to poor social situations..sometimes it's just a person's inherent selfishness, in many instances..I believe this is the case..at least when it comes to those who deem themselves to be "homosexuals" on this board. I'm almost certain most of them are just spoiled little rich kids..whose parents didn't beat their arses enough..and teach them right from wrong.

Whatever the social situation may be..it doesn't negate an individual's CHOICE. And that's what it all comes down to my man..CHOICE..pure and simple..

Anyone who states they don't have a choice to engage in such activities is lying to themselves, however, I have more sympathy for those who keep these things private and truly wish to change, than I do for those who attempt to reconcile such behaviors as being "moral", and attempt to force others to accept and legalize their foolish doctrines.


Why are you doing this? You know people are asking whether the attraction is genetic or not. You realize that most people will read over your post and forget that you are referring to the lifestyle only. Yes, engaging in any lifestyle is choice. That is not what is being debated and you know it.

Do you believe that the DESIRE for such a lifestyle is a choice?

why are you having a difficult time understanding that if they want to act on their feelings, they can, and they are not wrong for doing so, and there's nothing wrong with it. And it makes them happy.

is it comprehensible.....

Originally posted by powerfulone1987
why are you having a difficult time understanding that if they want to act on their feelings, they can, and they are not wrong for doing so, and there's nothing wrong with it. And it makes them happy.

is it comprehensible.....

But he finds it offensive that people want to make their relationships 'legal' by being married, and treated as equally as others.

Originally posted by Makedde
But he finds it offensive that people want to make their relationships 'legal' by being married, and treated as equally as others.

well it all comes down to how miserable is he going to make himself over this when it obviously has nothing to do with him unless he just hasn't come out yet and is acting in everyway he can think of that can give him a feeling of being homosexual.

I really don't know why he or other people care about something and are so intent on controlling how others live. It's their life. Life yours and shut up about others. And if you don't like it, cover your eyes. I'm sure there are many things in your lifestyle that other people don't/wouldn't like and would like make you change them.

is it comprehensible.....

Originally posted by StyleTime
Please tell me of the last time you went into a swimming pool with a ship.

Can human beings swim and travel in the water using their natural "abilities"?

Can human beings survive indefinitely living underwater and is the human body made specifically for sea travel?

Were human beings designed to live underwater?

Do human beings have the natural ability to live underwater, without assistance from a breathing apparatus?

Follow up questions:

Can the human anus have things stuck up in it?

Can a human embryo survive in the male rectum..and produce a fully

functional human being?

Was the anus designed for embryo incubation or to have things stuck up in it?

Does the anus have the natural ability to incubate human embryos and is it natural to stick things in it?

Originally posted by StyleTime
And now the insults come. Instead of admitting you have no real argument you start namecalling. Just admit you have no real merit to what you say.

Refer to the above..No insults bud..you are just making stupid arguments..blame yourself..not me..😉

Originally posted by StyleTime
Yes, engaging in any lifestyle is choice. That is not what is being debated and you know it.

Do you believe that the DESIRE for such a lifestyle is a choice?

Of course engaging in any lifestyle is a choice..and of course desiring to live a particular lifestyle is a choice. People change their "desires" in life all of the time..when I was in elementary school..I "desired" to be an architect..since becoming an adult..I'm studying to become a computer scientist..

You wonder why I ridicule you..but your arguments are utterly ridiculous.

oh god.

Yes, choosing a career profession in elementary school and then changing your mind when you get older is the exact same thing as ones sexual preference.

Great Analogy Buddy.

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is it comprehensible.....

Originally posted by powerfulone1987
oh god.

Yes, choosing a career profession in elementary school and then changing your mind when you get older is the exact same thing as ones sexual preference.

Great Analogy Buddy.

🤨

is it comprehensible.....

Of course it is buddy..

One person chooses to be a Computer Scientist..

The other chooses to ram a dude up the great cornholio...

I don't see how either of these choices could be labeled as genetic..

🙄

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Can human being swim and travel in the water using their natural "abilities"?

Can human beings survive indefinitely living underwater?

Were human beings designed to live underwater?

Do human beings have the natural ability to live underwater, without assistance from a breathing apparatus?



Yet, we can still swim.

All that posting to say I was right? Not very effecient.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Follow up question:

Can the human anus have things stuck up in it?

Can a human embryo survive in the male rectum..and produce a fully

functional human being?

Was the anus designed for embryo incubation or to have things stuck up in it?

Does the anus have the natural ability to incubate human embryos and is it natural to stick things in it?


When did I imply that an anus could incubate an embryo?

Wait, I didn't.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Refer to the above..No insults bud..you are just making stupid arguments..blame yourself..not me..😉

You claim I make stupid arguments, yet haven't proven any one false.

And you turn around and use banana and anus contact as part of your argument. You should reevaluate your argument.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Of course engaging in any lifestyle is a choice..and of course desiring to live a particular lifestyle is a choice. People change their "desires" in life all of the time..when I was in elementary school..I "desired" to be an architect..since becoming an adult..I'm studying to become a computer scientist..

You wonder why I ridicule you..but your questions borderline on utter ridiculousness..


My questions borderline on ridiculousness, yet you ascertain that a base human desire is choice.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
So yes..to answer your question quite bluntly..one does indeed make a choice when they desire something.

Childish whimsy is not proof that desire is a choice my friend.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Please explain why god "intelligently designed" the prostate gland, with the ability to have orgasms...

"Stimulation of the prostate gland in males has been compared to stimulation of the Gräfenberg spot in females in that prostate stimulation can result in a more powerful orgasm. Stimulation of the prostate gland can be accomplished through anal sex and anal masturbation."

Now this "body benefit" serves no purpose unless you are gay... Seeing as heterosexual sex can never stimulate the prostate gland....

If it causes half of society to be happy then let them be happy... theres loads of things in society that serve no purpose other then for our amusement...

Again:

And that's what it really "comes" down to in my opinion. ( 😛 )

People doing whatever the hell they want. Fine. Do it if it makes you happy.

But don't say that you do it becuase it feels good, that its how you express your love, and how you want to live your life.....

And then turn around and say it's "natural".

Or even worse... "genetics".

It is a deliberate, concious, on purpose way of living your life that you know the human race wasn't designed for.

I go back to some of my original statements:

If everyone was gay, we could not advance. Everybody would die and there would be no human race.

(It is both ignorance and folly to say that becuase of the population of the world now that this is simply not true. It's still true, you just won't have to deal with the reprocussions of it.)

Your environment/upbringng may make you pre-disposed to certain feelings/actions, but you make your own choices to follow through on them.

(I got in plenty of trouble being raised by a single mother in East San Jose, but I still have to be accountable for getting into that trouble.)

People who are gay cannot say for sure that "nothing out of the ordinary happened in my childhood."

They don't know that for sure.

I won't make the same mistakes twice, so I'll use myself as an example.

I cant' remember much past the age of 5-6. Anything from 3-4 is just images and feelings. Nothing before that.

I don't honestly know if I ever was abused or not.

It could have happened with a babysitter. I went to a day-care when I was young. I only have fleeting (if any!) memories of my years in pre-school and kindergarten. It could have been an uncle over to visit.
If I had older brothers or sisters, it could have been them or one of their friends. Could have been a curious cousin. (I don't know about you, but all the younger children usually went off to play in other rooms while the adults talked before dinner at a family gathering.)

There are so many people that a child age 1-5 or 6 comes into contact with that they would have little or no memory of.

If it was my parents, I would never have heard about it for sure.

It it wasn't, why the hell would they tell me anyway?

Telling a young child that they were abused would only damage them further psychologically, and if they seem not to remember it anyway, I can see quite a few parents just letting the sleeping dogs lye.

(Ditto for not telling you when you grew up, as it wouldn't do any good now.)

I say that it is developed through environmental factors, and the argument I often get back is that "nothing happened.", so I can't say that.

But you are dismissing a vital part of the environmental/genetic debate if you throw these points away, based on nothing more than your inability to remember something that is next to impossible to remember happening!!!!

At any rate, I don't think that "environmental factors" are necessarily always cases of molestation/sexual abuse.

It could be just the influence of an older gay person at a young age.

It could be an inability to fit in being a boy (sports, bugs, dirt...etc.) or a girl (dresses, barbie's, play house...etc...) that makes a child feel as though they don't belong in the group that they were born into.

It could be an exposure to normal, healthy sex at an innapropriate age.

(Kid walks in on dad pounding mom, sees the roughness, imagines his mothers grunts and cries are painfull,.... is either scared or develops a disgust for man/woman sex.)

There are so many avenues in life that could be an explanation, and many more that have not been explored/are not understood.

Gay people have been part of us (the human race🙂 ) for quite a while, and I'm sure they will be with us for much longer.

What I want is more knowledge/education about homosexuality, particualrly its causes.

What I don't want is my little brother's elementary school telling him that homosexuality is a natural way of life, and encouraging him to experiment with it. (such pro-gay curriculum is already being proposed/implemented for teaching to 4th graders.)

A man's sperm doesn't fertilize feces, and a woman doesn't have a period every month because her eggs were unfertilized by another woman.

Teaching kids that gay sex is natural, while also teaching them about polination, rain cycles, and animal and human breeding might confuse them just a bit. 😉

The idea of "born gay" is innacurate and illogical.

The human race was "born with drives, instinct, capabilities, and functional anatomy to pro-create through heterosexual copulation".....

anything anybody else does is up to them. thumbsup

Originally posted by Makedde
But he finds it offensive that people want to make their relationships 'legal' by being married, and treated as equally as others.

The behaviors aren't equal you ****!!!

This has been explained to you guys countless times.

Homosexuality isn't the "natural" equivalent of "heterosexuality"

It isn't the moral equivalent of "heterosexuality"

The behaviors can not be compared on a moral, physical, or social level due to all of the distinct differences each lifestyle exhibits.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
The behaviors aren't equal you ****!!!

This has been explained to you guys countless times.

Homosexuality isn't the "natural" equivalent of "heterosexuality"

It isn't the moral equivalent of "heterosexuality"

The behaviors can not be compared on a moral, physical, or social level due to all of the distinct differences each lifestyle exhibits.

😆 201 😆

Whob are you still harping on this? 😆 hysterical

Originally posted by StyleTime
Yet, we can still swim.

Yes..but our asses can't produce babies..get it..

got it..

good..😉

Originally posted by StyleTime
When did I imply that an anus could incubate an embryo?

Well you did imply that "swimming" was unnatural..but acceptable..I thought I would use similar rationale that pertained to the topic at hand..

So do you believe it would be exceptable for a scientist to attempt to incubate a human embryo in a man's ass..that's lined with excrement and all sorts of bile? I mean..it's possible right..they are able to incubate fetus's of a certain age in those incubation tubes..right? So that would make it acceptable to incubate a fetus in a man's asscrack right? 😉

Originally posted by StyleTime
You claim I make stupid arguments, yet haven't proven any one false.

I don't have to claim them to be false..all I have to do is point them out as being stupid and illogical..I think I've done my job there..😉

Originally posted by StyleTime
And you turn around and use banana and anus contact as part of your argument. You should reevaluate your argument.

Okay how about I used an 8 inch spiked dildo instead of a banana..would that be more appropriate for the argument at hand? You tell me bud..is it natural for an 8 inch spiked dildo to go up a man's anus? 😉

Originally posted by StyleTime
My questions borderline on ridiculousness, yet you ascertain that a base human desire is choice.

You assume that homosexuality is a "base desire" and not a "choice"..you have no evidence supporting this position..just a multitude of flawed opinions based on inconclusive evidence, nothing more..nothing less.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Childish whimsy is not proof that desire is a choice my friend.

But proving that human beings are not designed to swim proves that one's "desires" are genetic? 😕 😆

You've made nothing but assumptions my friend, and poor ones at that. Sad to say you've failed with your arguments..but I do hope you've learned something..😉

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Yes..but our asses can't produce babies..get it..

got it..

good..😉

Well you did imply that "swimming" was unnatural..but acceptable..I thought I would use similar rationale that pertained to the topic at hand..

So do you believe it would be exceptable for a scientist to attempt to incubate a human embryo in a man's ass..that's lined with excrement and all sorts of bile? I mean..it's possible right..they are able to incubate fetus's of a certain age in the incubation tubes..right?

I don't have to claim them to be false..all I have to do is point them out as being stupid and illogical..I think I've done my job their..😉

Okay how about I used an 8 inch spiked dildo instead of a banana..would that be more appropriate for the argument at hand? You tell me bud..is it natural for an 8 inch spiked dildo to go up a man's anus? 😉

You assume that homosexuality is a "base desire" and not a "choice"..you have no evidence supporting this position..just a multitude of flawed opinions based on inconclusive evidence, nothing more..nothing less.

But proving that human beings are not designed to swim proves that ones "desires" are genetic? 😕 😆

You've made nothing but assumptions my friend, and poor ones at that. Sad to say you've failed with your argument..but I do hope you've learned something..😉


this is very tiring, as are you. So please just shut up with your ridiculous posts alright.

No one agrees with your warped thinking and you need to spend your time doing something more productive, like coming to terms with your own sexuality and stop worrying about everybody elses.

is it comprehensible.....

Originally posted by powerfulone1987
you need to spend your time doing something more productive,

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is it comprehensible.....

I don't mean to be rude powerful one..but how can I be any less productive than yourself..I mean..you've essentially posted the same post for the past 30 pages..

"is it comprehensible..." got a bit old after the 3rd post my friend...😉