Originally posted by StyleTime
I forgot. Makedde is the world's foremost geneticist and has actually isolated and identified the sexuality gene.
😆 That's just my POV, of course. I didn't choose my sexuality, so I believe it's genetic. I have never met any gay person who said they chose their sexuality. 😉
what causes some people to do drugs?
what causes some people to buy a truck verses a car?
what causes some people to debate whether homosexuality is "chosen" or "genetic"?
They just do b/c they want to.
You know why you choose to comment in here don't you? Well that's your answer.
is it comprehensible.....
Originally posted by Makedde
😆 That's just my POV, of course. I didn't choose my sexuality, so I believe it's genetic. I have never met any gay person who said they chose their sexuality. 😉
Even if it's not a choice, that does not mean it is genetic. It could be an effect of nurture, physical environment, or even experiences. Like I pointed out earlier, it could be a extremely subtle choice. It has not been proven to be anything yet, so why should you assume it's genetic?
Seriously, what is so bad if some scientist manages to prove it is a choice?
I dispute that very strongly.
Personally, I think one of the things that gives the most ammunition AGAINST homosexuality being an acceptable lifestyle is the idea that there is no choice element involved.
Because then, instead of being "Yeah, homosexuality, that's ok, no problem with that."£ it becomes "Oh, we'd better tolerate it because they can't help it."
That's pretty horrible. You cannot fight for a world where homosexuality is accepted as something inevitable, like piles. That's NOT the fight. But that's what you will get if you stick to it not being any form of choice.
I think there is a choice element involved. Like with most things, if is nothing like as simple as just deciding to be gay one day; all lifestyle factors have complicated intertwined causes, from genetic pre-disposition to... random factots that make up your brain... to your attitudes towards life.
I think the quote from Trainspotting is best- "I think we are heterosexual by default, not design."
Culture and history makes heterosexuality the norm, but humanity as a whole has no barriers to its sexuality.
b is an irrelevant point, though. The truth will not be influenced by what the religious types will make of it. You can't go hoping it is not chosen just so they have one less criticism to make.
But the simple assumption that it is morally preferable for it to be non-chosen is unsustainable; I think it is just as bad for it to be hammered down as no choice at all, whereupon it becomes more like an affliction.
So in fact, the question of whether it is genetic or not isn't the important point. The ONLY relevant issue is whether it is a bad thing or not. I consider that in society today, most people think that what people do in private that affects no-one else is not going to be seen as a bad thing, and that is well.
Right or wrong, that's the question. Who gives a stuff about genetic or otherwise, frankly? It avoids the point. If it is right, then the justification for that should be MUCH better than 'there is no choice'. It should be right because it is perfectly acceptable and fine, not because it is unavoidable.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
b is an irrelevant point, though. The truth will not be influenced by what the religious types will make of it. You can't go hoping it is not chosen just so they have one less criticism to make.But the simple assumption that it is morally preferable for it to be non-chosen is unsustainable; I think it is just as bad for it to be hammered down as no choice at all, whereupon it becomes more like an affliction.
So in fact, the question of whether it is genetic or not isn't the important point. The ONLY relevant issue is whether it is a bad thing or not. I consider that in society today, most people think that what people do in private that affects no-one else is not going to be seen as a bad thing, and that is well.
Right or wrong, that's the question. Who gives a stuff about genetic or otherwise, frankly? It avoids the point. If it is right, then the justification for that should be MUCH better than 'there is no choice'. It should be right because it is perfectly acceptable and fine, not because it is unavoidable.
Well right or wrong is something that cannot be proven though....cause it probably is neither. If it is chosen or genetic is actually a scientific question.