Originally posted by The Omega
Morningstar> Hello, and welcome to planet Earth! Lets say we have two people Sue and Bob. Bob is a vegetarian and Sue eats meat. Bob is a vegetarian because it says in some holy book, that eating meat is WRONG. This is the only reason why Bob is a vegetarian, and the only reason he says ”EATING MEAT IS WRONG.”
Bob doesn’t like being around Sue because she does something he thinks is wrong, even though they NEVER even have dinner together. He feigns liking Sue.
U know, for all ur good explanations of things, u seem to judge Christians a lot. 🙄 particularly FE. *shrugs*
Dude i dont eat meat (and i know that it wasnt supposed to be taken literally) and heaps of my friends do. I think eating meat is gross but i dont judge them because they eat it. THats just plain stupid. Im not going to stop being friends with someone because they eat meat and i dont. That would be really stupid. 😉
"As soon as you use words such as ”right” or ”wrong” you have passed a judgement on someone or something. ”I dunno” or ”I don’t care” is the neutral, unjudged/undecided answer.
As you may (OR probably may NOT) have noticed, quite a few people around here adhere to the neutral reply, they don’t care whether or not people are homosexuals. They don’t say it’s ”right”, they simply don’t pass ANY judgement on this group of people."
That would be a heathy discussion.
"Do you think homosexuality is chosen or genetic." "I dont care."
"Do you think the Bible is fact or fiction?" "I dont know."
"DO you think its ok to be a prostitute?" "I dont care."
What kind of a discussion is that? Everybody has an opinion (obviously) 🙄 so they can deem what they think is 'right' or 'correct.' As you said, many ppl dont care whether or not people are homosexuals. Neither do i. I just dont approve. I dont approve of what my friends sometimes wear when they go to parties but if they want to wear it, fine.
DId i totally miss the point of that 2nd arguement? 😛
It is a illness.
Originally posted by Silver Stardust
How is it not a good choice? Because the *snort* bible says so?And I cannot believe that you called homosexuality an illness.
Anyway I don't follow the bible in most ways so I don't see why you keep bring it up.Anywho love happens to everyone and it is a action.
It is not a thng that we are born with.We see a guy and fall in love or have a crash on him.
Saying that gays are born like that is bs why do you guys think so?Sure they will fall in love but that is what everyone does.(Wait I am geting confuse ok)
anyway it does not mean that they have to acted upon it.Anyone can control love if they want too.Being that when they get a certain age they like a girl or a boy or (god help us!)both.
And this is there choice no body's elses but theres!So please guys inleast you have any thing that you know of someone being born gay I suggust you don't say anything,Where's the prove?and don't you see that it is a stupid idea?JM
You basically are just repeating the same thing you said earlier Jackie without really changing anything you said, and without bringing in new information.
I wrote a response to what you said, bringing up points that you should have addressed.
You instead decided to repeat your earlier post verbatim.
I suggest you read my argument to your kind of thinking that I thoughtfully posted on page 20 for you to read.
Next time try attack the specific points that others are making and actually read all of their posts before you just start calling things stupid, when you yourself are being too lazy to read responses to your posts, or are incapable of answering the questions raised by others.
"As you said, many ppl dont care whether or not people are homosexuals. Neither do i. I just dont approve."
No offence, Morningstar, but you totally contradicted yourself there by saying that you don't care, and then a sentence later saying that you don't approve.
"Anyway I don't follow the bible in most ways so I don't see why you keep bring it up."
Well, you keep saying about how it's wrong and a sin and you even had the nerve to call it an illness...and d'you know where most people get this perception of homosexuality? The bible.
"Anyone can control love if they want too.Being that when they get a certain age they like a girl or a boy or (god help us!)both."
Number one, anyone who thinks they can 'control' love has never been in love. And don't tell me you have been in love, because you're only 14 and the most you could have felt is puppy love. Number two, you probably have NO idea how many people you've probably seriously offended with that second sentence there, JM.
Re: It is a illness.
Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
Anyway I don't follow the bible in most ways so I don't see why you keep bring it up.Anywho love happens to everyone and it is a action.
It is not a thng that we are born with.We see a guy and fall in love or have a crash on him.
Saying that gays are born like that is bs why do you guys think so?Sure they will fall in love but that is what everyone does.(Wait I am geting confuse ok)
anyway it does not mean that they have to acted upon it.Anyone can control love if they want too.Being that when they get a certain age they like a girl or a boy or (god help us!)both.
And this is there choice no body's elses but theres!So please guys inleast you have any thing that you know of someone being born gay I suggust you don't say anything,Where's the prove?and don't you see that it is a stupid idea?JM
For someone who says that they don't follow the bible in one breath and then uses the term "god help us" in the next is clearly talking out of their ass. I understand that you have issues with homosexuality, be that because you are too ignorant to understand what you're saying or because you want to start a fight is up to you. Telling me that I have an 'illness' which makes me attracted to the same sex is simply not acceptable to me. If I was anywhere near you, I'd backhand you.
Now, if me telling you I'd like to slap the shit out of you is what you were trying to accomplish, you win. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out of this thread.
When are you guys going to learn that age does not matter?
Originally posted by finti
she is 14 and need to experience life a bit more first, maybe in a 5 years time she wise up a bit
And you are what age?I had wisen up but you had seen to since you had not answeared my last question,
My how the table turns!(I love that saying)and when are you going to stop judging people by there age?
If you were alot older then me then I will be shocked for you are not acting at all wise.Sad excuse to put the blame on me kid.Anyway read my last post and see if you can answear it.OK?It is that easy.JM 🙄
Originally posted by Silver Stardust
"As you said, many ppl dont care whether or not people are homosexuals. Neither do i. I just dont approve."
No offence, Morningstar, but you totally contradicted yourself there by saying that you don't care, and then a sentence later saying that you don't approve.
Sorry 😛 what i meant to say was that i dont care if people have feelings for other people of the same sex. THats absolutely fine with me. If you have a crush on a girl and ur a girl, i dont mind at all. I just dont approve of people acting on them.
Okay, everyone. Picking on someone due to grammatical and/or spelling errors is REALLY low.
Not everyone here swallowed a dictionary, nor does everyone (including this cookie) have English as their first language.
Go after the ARGUMENTS – not the person and not the spelling! Thank you very much… 😉
Finti> LAW of nature???? Last I checked my plants are not in law-school. 😄
Seriously though – there is nothing natural ABOUT humans anymore. So it’s a moot point to argue “laws of nature” or “procreation”.
Humans can choose – willingly and being heterosexuals – NOT to have children. Is that against the law of nature, the existence of his choice?
Morningstar> If I wanted to I can judge whomever I like, as it’s not a sin in MY book, dear.
”Dude i dont eat meat.”
Swooosh! That was the sound of my point going WAY above your head. Try to re-read my last post again, and look for the point which had NOTHING to do with YOU.
Me:” As you may (OR probably may NOT) have noticed, quite a few people around here adhere to the neutral reply, they don’t care whether or not people are homosexuals.”
You: ” "Do you think homosexuality is chosen or genetic." "I dont care."
"Do you think the Bible is fact or fiction?" "I dont know."
"DO you think its ok to be a prostitute?" "I dont care."”
Again, the sound of my point going WAYYY above your head is heard. But since I’m a nive person I’ll rewrite the paragraph you didn’t get:
"As soon as you use words such as ”right” or ”wrong” in relations to a debate on homosexuality you have passed a judgement on someone or something – in this case meaning the homosexuals or the act of homosexuality. ”I dunno” or ”I don’t care” is the neutral, unjudged/undecided answer in THIS particular case.”
Get it now?
To the people who believe homosexuality is a choice AND wrong (the two somehow seem to go hand in hand): With people like you, who DISLIKE homosexuals, why would ANYONE in their right mind CHOSE to place themselves in a situation where they’d be scorned by a lot of people they don’t even know?
"Okay, everyone. Picking on someone due to grammatical and/or spelling errors is REALLY low.
Not everyone here swallowed a dictionary, nor does everyone (including this cookie) have English as their first language.
Go after the ARGUMENTS – not the person and not the spelling! Thank you very much… "
It's hard to go after an argument when it's written in unledgable retard speak.
it's not genetic, it's the result of certain factors in the environment in which the person grew up, and that's according to bio ✅
unless there is a hormonic disorder, in which case, it's not called homosexuality... I think 😬 cause if one claims homosexuality is genetic, then it'll have to do with X and Y chromosoms, and whatever genetic disorder that has to do with those (i.e. male person having XXY instead of XY) is not the cause of different sexual orientation 😖