Originally posted by Oncewhite
then it sounds to me as if you and the like are at war.
don't worry, people already know that there are those who pretend to be priest and get in the church to defame it on purpose, just because they know it will tarnish the name of the church or God before it tarnishes the name of the folks in office who are intrusted to children.the war is fought in entertainment, church, even in sports now, and don't forget science.
i really do not believe you really want the answer to the question, you are at war, so any oponent will be heckled, ill willed or bullied...remember, i am in a black shell, i know the game.
1) I am not at war
2) In case you missed it, I am hetero
3) Do you have proof of [gay] priest pretending to be priest for the sole purpose of wagging a guerrilla type warfare as you describe?
4) If you have a valid answer to something, I'd actually love to hear it
5) What does your skin color have to do with the topic at hand?
Originally posted by Regret
Agreed
Again you make the error of concluding that Masculinity/Feminity have anything to do with Sexuality.
Masculinity/Feminity, a.k.a Gender Roles are human constructs and do not exist in nature. Sexuality is natural (whether genetic or environmental).
Human Beings were built to have sex, and every human is prone to sex regardless of the conditions. Human Beings are not prone to "gender roles", those are ENTIRELY taught.
Again, a man being feminine does NOT make him homosexual. Please cut this shitty argument already....
Originally posted by Lord UrizenQuit being an ass. For some it does play a role, not necessarily for all.
Again you make the error of concluding that Masculinity/Feminity have anything to do with Sexuality.Masculinity/Feminity, a.k.a Gender Roles are human constructs and do not exist in nature. Sexuality is natural (whether genetic or environmental).
Human Beings were built to have sex, and every human is prone to sex regardless of the conditions. Human Beings are not prone to "gender roles", those are ENTIRELY taught.
Again, a man being feminine does NOT make him homosexual. Please cut this shitty argument already....
"Homosexuality seems to have genetic and hormonal predisposition that can be confirmed or broken through gender roles and conditioning."
Gender roles include marrying a woman, playing in the father/husband role as a child(for boys), gender roles could possibly impact the determination of orientation as they are a part of the environment and cognition of the individual.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Human Beings were built to have sex, and every human is prone to sex regardless of the conditions. Human Beings are not prone to "gender roles", those are ENTIRELY taught.
this i have to agree with. male animals perform sodomy on eachother quite frequently. granted, its more of a 'prison gay' than a preference for the same sex, but point is humans are the only creature in nature to tag "right" and "wrong" on sex acts. in fact i think nature doesnt even belong in a debate such as this.
Originally posted by PVS
this i have to agree with. male animals perform sodomy on eachother quite frequently. granted, its more of a 'prison gay' than a preference for the same sex, but point is humans are the only creature in nature to tag "right" and "wrong" on sex acts. in fact i think nature doesnt even belong in a debate such as this.
Only certain animals do, like dogs. Nature does belong in this debate I'd venture though. Sex is a natural inborn urge, I think we can all agree that we are not taught to want to have sex.
Originally posted by PVS
i think enough personal testimonies and common sense thwart that theory anyhow...you know, that every gay person just one day says "hmmm, i think i'll be gay". however you cannot deny the possibility that it can be conditioning, simply because its a possibility, as well as the possibility that its genetic.
if people would just accept and respect possibilities as well as the ultimate uncertainty of their supportive evidence then this thread would only be like 1/10 of what it is now.
I do not beleive that sexuality has just ONE cause.....I do not beleive it is learned, pre-determined at birth, genetic, chosen, etc. I beleive everything goes into it...genetics, environment, reactions, stimuli, etc.
I beleive Sexuality is developed due to both internal and external factors.
The mistake that almost everybody makes it assuming that there is a true dichomoty between Gay and Straight. That's a load of horse sh*t, and all of us, heterosexuals and homosexuals alike, need to stop buying into that.
Sexuality is a SPECTRUM...not a flat color. There are hundreds of different types of sexualities, not just two or three. Sexualities vary among attraction to gender, body type, race, facial features, age, weight, height, smell, attitude, etc.
There are hundreds of different kinds of straight people and hundreds of different types of gay people, and hundreds of different types of bisexual people (in direct regard to thier sexuality).....
Alliance holds a stance that all people are on different ends of Bisexuality.....which may be true, but that's such an over simplification of sexuality, it may not be valid enough.
You ever notice how some people have certain fetishes, and some don't ? You ever discover how sometimes a straight person will get aroused by same-sex thoughts/experience, and vise versa. How some bisexuals still have a gender preference (like me for example), while other bisexuals don't give a shit about gender, only a specific look or attitude.....
Sexuality cannot be fully defined, explained, or categorized by ANYTHING any of us have come up with so far.....
I think the only thing we can truly agree on is that NO ONE makes a solid choice about what sexuality to become....that is not up to us....if we had the power to choose our attractions, then all of us would be happy, because then we could settle and make the most of people who we are NOT attracted to, but who may be attracted to us....instead of aiming for someone we couldn't get or someone who didn't notice us.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You haven't seen the posts about voodoo and DNA altering demons and spirits?
I stopped at "By the time 'they' made blacks they were not interested in making a pretty race but a strong race for slave purposes... something about Gods & Snakes..." (not verbatim)... Should I go on reading?
Originally posted by Regret
Quit being an ass. For some it does play a role, not necessarily for all.
Quit being so closed minded, and ill try to stop being an ass...how about that ?
Originally posted by Regret
"Homosexuality seems to have genetic and hormonal predisposition that can be confirmed or broken through gender roles and conditioning."
Only homosexual activity can be broken down by gender roles, not homosexual attraction
In fact, Gender roles are what causes Gay people to pretend to be Straight.....
Originally posted by Regret
Gender roles include marrying a woman, playing in the father/husband role as a child(for boys), gender roles could possibly impact the determination of orientation as they are a part of the environment and cognition of the individual.
Marrying a woman...many marriages end in tragedy when the Gay man realizes that he doesn't truly feel sexual attraction towards his wife....Governor McGreevey for example, nice try 👇
Did you say Cognition ?....I smell further hypocrisy, oh Behavioralist......
Originally posted by Robtard
Only certain animals do, like dogs. Nature does belong in this debate I'd venture though. Sex is a natural inborn urge, I think we can all agree that we are not taught to want to have sex.
no, many animals do. take animals which have the alpha-male. many males of their species which are not alphas. guess how they frequently get off....yup.
animals whack off too. i saw a parrot whack off on its perch. where the **** did it learn that?
human morality and nature are oil and water. in the animal kingdom, sex is not necessarily consentual, or even conventional, animals jerk off, murder their own, mothers can eat their offspring, basically any 'depraved' act can and will be committed in nature to the scrutiny of nobody.
yet nature is universally regarded as the epitome of rationality, while humans are regarded as irrational. we are irrational creatures which create rules, which in the face of nature are purely superficial and....completely irrational.
so long as you feel the drive to put your penis in something or have something put in your vagina, thats nature. beyond that is human morality issues.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Only certain animals.....Like dogs, crocidiles, snakes, geese, mice, cats, moose, ducks, sheep, goats, cows, buffalo, lions, tigers, bears, and most mammals....All of this has been observed...look it up on your own time.
With the exception of dogs, and rodents, I do think it is a rarity. I have looked it up before for the purposes of a different debate.
Originally posted by RobtardI think it might have been in a different thread. Something about the pituitary gland, and a third eye, and how it causes rape...
I stopped at "By the time 'they' made blacks they were not interested in making a pretty race but a strong race for slave purposes... something about Gods & Snakes..." (not verbatim)... Should I go on reading?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Homosexuality is pretty rare in Human Sexuality as well (according to the biased and underdeveloped studies)
Considering the 6+ billion people on the planet and how many of them are hetero vs homo, it would seem to be a rarity. But then again, you can never really know, it's all just a guess how many people are gay, straight, bi or whatever.
The reason I said that the other animals you mentioned "is a rarity" is because how many times have lions, geese, bears etc been seen having homosexual sex and is it really homosexual? I.E. are the male lions genuinly attracted to each other or is it a dominance/territorial thing? I am not entirely convinced that sexuality as we define it can be applied to animals.