Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
well seen as the only options we are given are Genetics and Choice 😂otherwise I would have just said a psychological defect.
In a few instances, I would agree that environment plays a role in shifting the point on the sexual orientation scale one way or the other...I wouldn't necessarily call that a psychological defect...rather, I would call that a psychological Effect.
Originally posted by dadudemon
In a few instances, I would agree that environment plays a role in shifting the point on the sexual orientation scale one way or the other...I wouldn't necessarily call that a psychological defect...rather, I would call that a psychological Effect.
but if that environment is forcing your sexual orientation to a side that is "unnatural" then it is defected, is it not?
Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
but if that environment is forcing your sexual orientation to a side that is "unnatural" then it is defected, is it not?
Sort of. Depends on the perspective. From a reproductive standpoint, it is a defect. From a evolutionary perspective, it is a defect. From a psychological perspective, it is perfectly normal and natural. From a biological perspective, it is a defect IF it is genetic.
Considering humans are too intelligent to be restricted to natural selection, we can do things like homosexuality. We are a weak species...yet we are so successful.
These are my opinions and the area I know that least about is the psychological one...it so happens to be the most pertinent and usable perspective in this scenario since humans are almost beyond the "nature" part of it.
I've argued that homosexuality is almost essential to humanity. I've argued that people fake homosexuality. I've argued that people choose homosexaulity. I've argued that it can be genetic. I've argued that sexuality can fickle. I've argued that some literally CHOOSE homosexaulity.
Gay its NOT Genetic
A few years back data was released by the medical world..
a mother who experiences unusally high levevls of stress & anxiety during pregnancy
produces a hormone,that effects the babies hormone levels..
these women had a 90% chance of having a son or daughter who was either bi sexual or gay
so yes unfortunatley its a blame the mother again situation
Originally posted by jimmy's One
Gay its NOT GeneticA few years back data was released by the medical world..
a mother who experiences unusally high levevls of stress & anxiety during pregnancy
produces a hormone,that effects the babies hormone levels..
these women had a 90% chance of having a son or daughter who was either bi sexual or gay
so yes unfortunatley its a blame the mother again situation
wow so the queston has been answered. good thing we have you to report it.
now you'll just have to notify the scientific community. close thread and debate forever.
Same Sex Couples Common in the Wild
Same Sex Couples Common in the Wild
By Clara Moskowitz, LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 16 May 2008 05:10 pm ET
As gay couples celebrate their newfound right to marry in California and opposition groups rally to fight the ruling, many struggle with this question: Is homosexuality natural?
On this issue, Nature has spoken: Same-sex lovin' is common in hundreds of species, scientists say.
Roy and Silo, two male chinstrap penguins at New York's Central Park Zoo, were a couple for about six years, during which they nurtured a fertilized egg together (given to them by a zookeeper) and raised the young chick that hatched.
According to University of Oslo zoologist Petter Böckman, about 1,500 animal species are known to practice same-sex coupling, including bears, gorillas, flamingos, owls, salmon and many others.
If homosexuality is natural in the animal kingdom, then there is the question of why evolution hasn't eliminated this trait from the gene pool, since it doesn’t lead to reproduction.
It may simply be for pleasure.
"Not every sexual act has a reproductive function," said Janet Mann, a biologist at Georgetown University who studies dolphins (homosexual behavior is very common in these marine mammals). "That's true of humans and non-humans."
Some scientists have proposed that being gay may serve its own evolutionary purpose.
"It could be a way that you strengthen bonds — that's one hypothesis," Mann told LiveScience. "Another is that it could be practice for heterosexual sex. Bottlenose dolphin calves mount each other a lot. That might benefit them later on."
Marlene Zuk, a biologist at the University of California, Riverside, suggested that gay individuals contribute to the gene pool of their community by nurturing their relatives’ young without diverting resources by having their own offspring.
One thing that does seem to be exclusive to humans is homophobia.
"It's a very interesting question as to why anybody ever cares," Mann said. "There are different theories about why people find it threatening. Some think it disrupts male bonds, like you're not playing for the right team. The funny thing is that people say homosexuality is unnatural, that non-humans don't engage in homosexual behavior, but that's not true. Then they'll say it's base and animalistic."
Humans' resistance to the idea of homosexuality extends even to research on the behavior in animals. Scientists who study the topic are often accused of trying to forward an agenda, and their work can come under greater scrutiny than that of their colleagues who study other topics, Mann said
"It's kind of a shame because I think that probably is a reason why people don't look at it more," Mann said. "That's probably why we haven't gotten further. You would think we'd know more than we do by now."
http://www.livescience.com/animals/080516-gay-animals.html
What do you think, is homosexuality natural?