Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?

Started by finti324 pages

this is a philosophy forum not a religious forum

JM, you're thinking of theology.

That I am and please call me Jackie or Jacks!Thanks!Sorry to bug you.JM

It's pretty much both. Sometimes you just can't help being gay. And sometimes you choose to be.
You shud watch Oprah more often.

It is possible that rarely, rarely, one can "choose," if by choosing, you mean be affected profoundly in your formative years and embrace any resulting positive associations and/or avoid any resulting negative associations. However, who's to say there's no genetic factor underlying that process, also?
And Oprah really, really needs to give me a car...I think it would make her happy. She's a giving person...

You shud watch Oprah more often.

You should try studying the psychology behind homosexuality.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Once again, Fever has a good point.

Why? Because you both like Carnage?

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
Ok one question.Why on earth is this topic in here when it should be with the deccison part of this site?This has nothering to do with spirtly stuff or have anything to do with god.
So why is this topic here?Makes no sence.JM

Because, much like yourself, shit happens....

Pretty much because we both like Carnage. See, we're that kind of person that is completely one-dimensional in their focus...

Originally posted by fever red
Pretty much because we both like Carnage. See, we're that kind of person that is completely one-dimensional in their focus...

Goals are a good thing. One dimisional is limiting. Don't give either of you such little credit.

Feceman>” Perhaps God's killing of the firstborn children of the Egyptians was to return Pharaoh's favor when he had the Israelite boys thrown in the river.”

But either it’s OKAY to kill babies or it is NOT okay to kill babies (and/or firstborns who can’t change anything anyways).
If it’s NOT okay to kill babies, then God shouldn’t. If it’s okay, then there’s no need to punish the Egyptians.
Simple.

Fever red> The point of Ancient Egypt and the Bible (I think) is a debate on whether or not people should take everything in the Bible literally (such as – homosexuality is WRONG, seeing as these books were written millenias ago) or not.

Ytaker> So... Did you give up already?

Yes- I understand that- I just think that the killing of the firstborns can't speak to the relevancy or validity of the bible. You can point out discrepancies in the bible, and I'll see the relevancy of that- it is a rationale for not accepting the bible literally, and thus negating all that we observe in the natural world and our own biology. But questioning the morality of death? Of how death is dealt? It is, it is, that's all. It is, so why not now, then, here, there, them, us, me, you, firstborns en masse? Mourning is, also.
I don't get it- but I may not have had sufficient coffee.

The Bible isn't the only source homophobes can draw on.

One thing about homosexuality - this whole word ''homosexual'' is the problem - this whole label.

People were having gay sex for over a millennia and before, but it was only in the mid 19th century that this label came about - as soon as a label came about it suggested that there is an ''other'' group a ''different'' group of people and thus they need to be ''treated'' differently.

I think it is genetic - it is partly because we have already labeled ''homosexuals'' as just that, that we even offer the option of it being chosen.

The Bible isn't the only source homophobes can draw on.

Now this I hate. As usual, people who are against gay marriage are HOMOPHOBES. Learn what the word actually means, not what society tells you.

ho·mo·pho·be n. One who holds contempt for lesbians and gay men.

con·tempt n. The feeling or attitude of regarding someone or something as inferior, base, or worthless; scorn.

For one to deny same-sex couples the same rights as opposite-sex couples, he must hold some contempt for homosexuals.

Originally posted by The Omega

Ytaker> So... Did you give up already?

Originally posted by AdventChild

?....ok..... what does that have to deal with Homosexuality being a choice or genetics?

Originally posted by Ytaker
Not a clue.

Omega? After you've posted a long and ardous read about how the Pharoh was actually born into the throne, how the fact that God hardened the Pharoh's will in a human way doesn't change that he hardened etc, shall we drop it?

ho·mo·pho·be n. One who holds contempt for lesbians and gay men.

You're joking, right? That is a contemporary (liberalized) definition. A phobia is an irrational, all-consuming fear of something that ordinary people do not have. A good example is arachnophobia. An arachnophobe is someone who has arachnophobia. Thus, a homophobe is a person who has homophobia, which is an irrational, all-consuming fear of homosexuals.

I don't think Phobos was the god of contempt.

Originally posted by FeceMan
You're joking, right? That is a contemporary (liberalized) definition. A phobia is an irrational, all-consuming fear of something that ordinary people do not have. A good example is arachnophobia. An arachnophobe is someone who has arachnophobia. Thus, a homophobe is a person who has homophobia, which is an irrational, all-consuming fear of homosexuals.

I don't think Phobos was the god of contempt.

I am not interested in what you believe "homophobe" or "homophobia" to mean. The lexical definition as supplied by a common dictionary will suffice.

That is inaccurate. The prefix and suffix of the word don't work like that. They just don't. A phobia is NOT a discrimination or contempt or whatever the hell you want to call it--it is a FEAR.

Homo--same.
Phobos--fear.

Homophobia--fear of the same. In this case, "fear of individuals who have same-sex attraction".

(By the way, nice job altering the definition to suit your needs.)

You see, the problem is that the public uses the phrase "homophobe" incorrectly. If I wanted to see the slang definition of a word, I'd go to urbandictionary.com. It's similar to the way everyone slaps -itis onto a word if they want it to be sound like a medical term.

More specifically, "senioritis". "Inflammation of the senior"? Give me a break.

If I want the actual definition, I will open a dictionary and examine the roots, prefixes, and suffixes of the word.