Kerry Bush officaial election thread

So kingcoot you are saying that you would watch one 'documentary' because it supports your view but not watch one that doesn't? Hmmm I watched F-911 and would be willing to Fh-911. I try to keep an open mind even though I am voting Kerry.

My wife said something to me the other day that struck me as interesting. We are not affiliated with either party and usually just vote for person that seems best for the job.

She said, 'I noticed over the last few months that the people voting for Bush/and other Republicans are very closed minded. However the people that I have talked to that are voting Kerry/Democrats seem willing to explore the issues. They listen and explain the issues that I want to talk about.'

I would have to agree with her. We have some people who are voting for Bush across the street. I asked them why they are voting for him. They said because he is Republican. I asked them are they voting because of certain issues that are important to them or just because he is Republican. They told me that they have always vote Republican and will vote for Bush because of it.

Wow! Narrow minded people. It scares me that they vote for someone just because of his party but never find out anything about him. Scary!

^^^^

very true indeed.
there are always exceptions to the rule...but i have yet to meet one

Actually, I'd like to watch both. But in the order of importance it would have to be the documentary based on facts. Then I would see the farce. I'd probably see it more as a comedy piece that way.

hmmm...a farce? how can you deduct that without seeing it?
you want to know what i think of the documentory that you favor?
absolutely nothing as of yet, since i have not seen it yet.
see where i'm going with this? please, think for yourself.

Kerry is a valid alternative to Bush, however I don't find myself enjoying his personality. I find him trying to hard, too great of a debater to really come off as a human being. With Bush, I just see a human. One that can make mistakes and is trying his best to make the right decision. It comes down to the last 4 years. I haven't noticed a change personally, but I respect Bush more than Clinton. I just believe the personality is important. Both would be strong against terror. Bush seems to have the most experience with the current situation given that he is the incumbent.

What bothers me about Kerry isn't so much his "flip flopping". Some of his poorly stated words can also be seen in Bush. What Bush did nail was attendence. Something I find to be interesting. Why be absent in the Senate? It just sticks me the wrong way.

I know where you go with it, and it might be named "assuming too much". I did know Team America would be a farce... and it was. I've gotten some information based on Matt Stones interview on Bowling for Columbine. Trey and Matt saw that right after the interview a southpark type thing that they didn't do. So they rip on Micheal Moore for taking one idea, and adding to a "maybe" and usually it is "not at all". I have heard from "republicans" that F-911 is very entertaining. I've said it probably would make a good comedy. I'd laugh at lies, but I laugh at the truth more so when it slaps everyone in the face. Truth told simply usually makes me laugh because I rarely hear it told simply.

NEWS FLASH:

all politicians are snakes.
the more human they seem, the better they are at decieving.
with that said:

bush does not seem to me to be the type of guy to admit his mistakes.
i dont say this based on what i feel, but by what i witness. bush has yet
to make a single mistake, or so he sees it. yeah, we let osama evade capture,
but we'll get him...yeah we went to war when it was not justified, but the world is a better place without saddam. bush never makes mistakes, only 'happy accidents' as bob ross used to put it.

quote: "What Bush did nail was attendence. Something I find to be interesting. Why be absent in the Senate? It just sticks me the wrong way."

wtf? bush was never a senator...so how do you compare? there is not a single senator with a perfect attendance record, its such an easy card for bush and cheney to play, and it means nothing. and OF COARSE bush needs to keep a good attendance record, since he is the commander in chief.

Dude, Bush talking about Kerry's attendence on the Senate...
I'm a text book essay writer. I don't write easy reading literature. sorry.

"With Bush, I just see a human. One that can make mistakes"

Yes, but do we really want a president who makes so many mistakes? I'd rather have someone who is trying hard to NOT make mistakes.

"She said, 'I noticed over the last few months that the people voting for Bush/and other Republicans are very closed minded. However the people that I have talked to that are voting Kerry/Democrats seem willing to explore the issues. They listen and explain the issues that I want to talk about.'"

I've noticed that myself -- it seems that Republicans vote more for the party, while Democrats vote more for the issues. Yes, I'm a Democrat, but if the Republican candidate raised issues and thought along the sames lines about them as I did, I would vote for them, and most Dems I know are the same way.

BTW, anyone watch the Daily Show last night?

{edit for spelling}

I think like a computer and gather my words in ways people can't read easily. I write it exactly how I think (I fill in many of the blanks when thinking) and what is left is the core idea and that has somthing to do with the fact I had no sleep in 24 hours. Maybe thats why 4 out of 5 people don't get me. And I worked 16 of those hours. If you took some digital electronics, analog, and electronic communication classes in college, read the text book, you would understand my typing style. Its gotta be the freakin text book that influenced my style of writing. I pick up on it, cause I see pages after I close the book. I'm sorry I can do that.

Originally posted by kingcoot
Dude, Bush talking about Kerry's attendence on the Senate...
I'm a text book essay writer. I don't write easy reading literature. sorry.

thats exactly what im argueing, read the post again.
senators never have perfect attendance records, it is not
necessary. a senator and a president is like an apple and an orange.

since bush was never a senator, how can you compare his attendance with kerry? and while im on the topic, let me point out that bush took more vacation time in his first 8 months than many presidents take in their entire 4-year term.

Kerry is human. No one is flawless. If you listen to the debates, Bush did name some appointed staff he wasn't pleased with. The fact remains that he believes that taking saddam out of power was right. Is Saddam a good guy? With Saddam in, you have a money center that can and would be hostile to Americans. If you follow me so far, it would happen eventually. If Bush didn't do anything with saddam, and something happens down the road with Saddam, everyone would show that Bush didn't act when he should have. These choices that the president has to make are not perfect-everyone-is-going-to-be-happy choices. Its inherent with the office.

I really think attendence is important no matter what it is. If it is to take the dog for a walk, or sit and watch your sister at piano practice, it means something if you are there. I agree... the senate floor on tv is nearly empty on some votes and really casual.

why do i get the feeling you didnt have this 'he's only human' attitude when clinton got caught with his pants down...literally?

saddam is an evil murdering bastard, and through the proper procedures, bush could have rallied support from all nations. not just from his coalition of the not-so-willing, of which all have dropped out besides the u.k. this could have been a worldwide effort, but instead, the u.s. has to take on most of the burden, and most of the casualties. it could have been done the right way, but bush just had a massive woody and had to do it NOW NOW NOW. now look at the price america is paying.

Originally posted by kingcoot
Kerry is human. No one is flawless. If you listen to the debates, Bush did name some appointed staff he wasn't pleased with. The fact remains that he believes that taking saddam out of power was right. Is Saddam a good guy? With Saddam in, you have a money center that can and would be hostile to Americans. If you follow me so far, it would happen eventually. If Bush didn't do anything with saddam, and something happens down the road with Saddam, everyone would show that Bush didn't act when he should have. These choices that the president has to make are not perfect-everyone-is-going-to-be-happy choices. Its inherent with the office.

I never said anything about Saddam being a good guy or that he should still be in power. I precisely said the opposite. What I SAID was that Bush shouldn't have invaded Iraq under false pretenses. If he was so worried about his war on terror, he should have taken care of Bin Laden first.

I know Kerry's human, but he's actively trying to not screw up. A hell of a lot better than Bush does.

Originally posted by PVS
why do i get the feeling you didnt have this 'he's only human' attitude when clinton got caught with his pants down...literally?

saddam is an evil murdering bastard, and through the proper procedures, bush could have rallied support from all nations. not just from his coalition of the not-so-willing, of which all have dropped out besides the u.k. this could have been a worldwide effort, but instead, the u.s. has to take on most of the burden, and most of the casualties. it could have been done the right way, but bush just had a massive woody and had to do it NOW NOW NOW. now look at the price america is paying.

😂 😂

Also, with the Clinton comment...I bet that was the attitude of most people who now spout the "only human" thing...and hell, I was in like 6th-7th grade when all that happened and I was able to recognize that everything Clinton did for the country overshadowed him having an affair. Now, if I was only 12 at the time and could realize this, why couldn't people much older and more mature? The Senate didn't give a damn about him having an affair, btw, it was that he lied about it. And he was never convicted for it either -- impeachment doesn't mean conviction. Being impeached is just a fancy term meaning that the president was charged with something.

May I add that vacation time is not absent time..it is approved absense.

A PRESIDENT LIED!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
BURN HIM!!!!!! 😂

yeah, im aware of the perjury charge, but the majority of americans who hated clinton focused on his infidelity, and not his lies to the commitee

Originally posted by PVS
A PRESIDENT LIED!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
BURN HIM!!!!!! 😂

yeah, im aware of the perjury charge, but the majority of americans who hated clinton focused on his infidelity, and not his lies to the commitee

OMFG THE PRESIDENT LIED!!! WHO COULD IMAGINE SUCH A THING?! 😂

I'll be willing to bet that many Americans didn't even know about the perjury charge.

Originally posted by kingcoot
May I add that vacation time is not absent time..it is approved absense.

oh now you're just killing me.
its ok for bush to take a break,
but kerry cant, kerry has to be on the senate
floor every single day. what double standards. 🙄