Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

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Originally posted by jinzin
when has spiderman taken down the sin six in a no prep, surprise fight?
anyway's give wolverine a vacuume and he could take down sandman too....😂
i have the comic and this is how it went down...
Electro😄odged his first blast then grounded himself with cables so the electricity wouldn't hurt him that much then turned off his power source so he couldn't power himself up
Kraven:Tried to attack him with two tigers which he dodged and grabbed the card which he needed to find out where the next battle is
Mysterio:Had to fight robot versions of the original Xmen,minus Jean+Iceman.He destroyed the Beast one with one hit,jumped on Angel robot and ripped him into pieces,and dodged 5 blasts from roboCyclops and flipped him over with his web.Then he sensed Mysterio behind a wall and smashed through it.Then Mysterio released a big cloud which blinded Spidey,but,using his sense,punched him out.
Sandman:Trapped him in an air-tight prison with himself which backfired because Spidey is stronger than Sandman,therefore can hold his breath longer
Vulture:Made him give up his web shooters so he can continue his quest,then sprayed oil on the ledge he was standing on so he would slip,but he attached to a wall.Vulture then lassoed his leg and Spidey used his own rope to pull himself towards Vulture and then ride him to get his web shooters back
Dr.Octopus:Anticipating his arrival,Ock removed his arms,and sneak attacked Spidey.Spidey turned the tide by punching him,which broke his concentration.He recoved and got Spidey to fall into a giant fishbowl.Ock then but on scuba gear and battled Spidey.Spidey tangled him in webbing,trapping him. NO PREP TIME AT ALL!!!

You can argue Wolvie Vs Spidey,but to say Daredevil or Captain America can even be a threat to Spidey is just plain silly.Anyone who's ever seen when the comic where Spidey fight Daredevil(Amazing16)knows Daredevil couldn't even hurt Spidey,and Captain isn't that much of a match either.

Originally posted by Creshosk
CorderaMitchell made the argument that wolverine's healing factor is inconsistant so it can't be relied on.

Granted it has been written inconsistantly, However in each of Wovlerine's fights with spiderman its demonstrated the same consistency.

Moreover, Spiderman's spidersense has also been inconsistant. So if CorderaMitchell argues that wolverine's healing factor doesn't play in then neither should spiderman's spidersense.

I never said that wolverine's healing factor was 100% consistant 100% of the time. Just that it has been consistant in wolverine and Spiderman's fights.

Ya dig?

I said the writing you guys shoot up is hard to rely upon , you said negate it.

Take away wolvies healing for spidey' pre cog. Sure , Wolverine loses that much more worse, and wolverine has been souped up bottom line, with a scramble with someone on Caps or daredevl's level or getting floored by certain x men, then he's shown like he should, fighting spidey or the other's the 63" man gets a handicap.Wolvie taking spidey punches then backhanding him all the way across the roof no prob is lame. Colossus taking power hits from the stronger characters without showing pain right away, yes, Wolverine no , and then Colossus falls down from powerful hits.Why have the guy like superman where he does things better than the team is beyond me , i mean he fights on a team for a reason.

Hating wolverine, no. I like the correct wolverine, not that bs that has been shown to ruin the X-men and marvel at times.

You just want to turn your head from all the examples we have made,and you have yet to show why wolverine is potrayed, ACCURATELY, FAIRLY, AND CONSISTENTLY during his time.

P.S : When spidey got much more powerful, he usually was captain universe. Wolverine gets to do that with no explanation, and is used interchangibly in debates.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I said the writing you guys shoot up is hard to rely upon , you said negate it.

Take away wolvies healing for spidey' pre cog. Sure , Wolverine loses that much more worse, and wolverine has been souped up bottom line, with a scramble with someone on Caps or daredevl's level or getting floored by certain x men, then he's shown like he should, fighting spidey or the other's the 63" man gets a handicap.Wolvie taking spidey punches then backhanding him all the way across the roof no prob is lame. Colossus taking power hits from the stronger characters without showing pain right away, yes, Wolverine no , and then Colossus falls down from powerful hits.Why have the guy like superman where he does things better than the team is beyond me , i mean he fights on a team for a reason.

Hating wolverine, no. I like the correct wolverine, not that bs that has been shown to ruin the X-men and marvel at times.

You just want to turn your head from all the examples we have made,and you have yet to show why wolverine is potrayed, ACCURATELY, FAIRLY, AND CONSISTENTLY during his time.

P.S : When spidey got much more powerful, he usually was captain universe. Wolverine gets to do that with no explanation, and is used interchangibly in debates.

Drop it will ya?

Your argument is illogical and doesn't fly. You just feel threatened by Wolverine's healing factor.

You just can';t accept that in EACH of Spiderman and wolverine's fights Wolverine has stayed concious.

Yea and you cant help the fact that spidey makes logan look like a hairy, yellow , stroke victim due to his superior speed.

And you started it , don't likeyour own medicine eh?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Yea and you cant help the fact that spidey makes logan look like a hairy, yellow , stroke victim due to his superior speed.

And you started it , don't likeyour own medicine eh?

Oh yes mine was the illogical argument "It's inconsistant so let's not use it." 🙄

You just proved one of my statements in another thread.

Wolverine alone can take Spiderman. 😉

Nah you started negating stuff, I simply said his healing isn't even reliable. Its hard to USE in debates, because people disagree on it too much is what I said.

Bottom line, wolvie aint supple enough in wolverine to even touch spidey, put a car on him and wolvie's gone............

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Nah you started negating stuff,
See? Claiming I made the arguments you did. 😛

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I simply said his healing isn't even reliable.
It's reliable enough to stand up to spiderman each and every time they fought. 🙂

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Its hard to USE in debates,
You mean it's hard to argue against in debates, it's easy to use.

"Wolverine has a healing factor." See wasn't that easy? 🙂

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
because people disagree on it too much is what I said.
Because people disagree on it. 😆 You mean you don't like it because it helps to defeat spiderman. 😉

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Bottom line, wolvie aint supple enough in wolverine to even touch spidey, put a car on him and wolvie's gone............
Funny how he's not in the comics. 😛 Spiderman hits him harder than a car could and yet he's stayed concious in all of their fights.

Wolvie can take whatever spiderman dishes out, and that bugs you because it makes spidey look weaker. 😉

Well that definitely,puts Cap and DD out of this, you know seeing as he can hit harder than a car, and they cant really take much more than a human can anyway.

Nah not really, he seems to selectively take certain dishings, punches from namor ok, punches from DD whoosh. You just don't like the fact that wolvie's been souped up, thats common knowledge here except for wolvie fanboys.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Well that definitely,puts Cap and DD out of this, you know seeing as he can hit harder than a car, and they cant really take much more than a human can anyway.

Nah not really, he seems to selectively take certain dishings, punches from namor ok, punches from DD whoosh. You just don't like the fact that wolvie's been souped up, thats common knowledge here except for wolvie fanboys.

Common argument from the spidey fanboys.

Hey spidey's been souped up too. He's a 15 Tonner now, and why did he suddenly able to lift that extra 5 tons?

And he still takes punches from spiderman 100% consistantly. But you hate that fact so have to use other instances. 🙂

No just proving inconsistancy, and this is a match that hasn't happened we want a common understanding of all characters,not Captain Universe Wolvie, you wolvie fanboy.

Everyone is wrong, Captain America is going to be the weapon to look out for. One; his experience, and super-soldier serum has made him a lethal weapon from time to time. Two; any man who can kill Nazis armed with MP40s with just a shield has my respect. Three; Daredevil's 360 radar and Wolverine's fierceness should not be forgotten as well

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No just proving inconsistancy, and this is a match that hasn't happened we want a common understanding of all characters,not Captain Universe Wolvie, you wolvie fanboy.
So because I don't worship Spidercock like you do I'm a fanboy for Spidey's opposition. I knew you were going to resort to openly calling me a fanboy.

Hey,and you worship uncircumncised logancock,You have already called me a fanboy , I know it makes you mad.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Hey,and you worship uncircumncised logancock,You have already called me a fanboy , I know it makes you mad.

😆 Hardly. I just recognize a fight in which Spiderman can't win.

Too bad some people's eye's are so full of a fictional character's genetilia to realize when that character is beaten. 😉 That'd be you cheif.

Whatever,and I know when he's not getting touched by anyone unless he wants to, Cap is the real char here.

Sounds funny since you are married and cheating with fictional char, as for me I can get all the girls i need.

Regardless of such I'm done with insults, until you or me come and post anything useful, then I'm wating, no need for us to get banned now is it, kid?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Whatever,and I know when he's not getting touched by anyone unless he wants to,
Fallacy of exclusion and slothful induction.

"I can't let up. I can't give him a second. He'd kill me."

Yup sounds like he really wanted wolverine to get him in each of there fights. 🙄

"I can't beleieve you stabbed me!"

Uh huh. . .

Hey try this one, how long was wolverine stunned after that, and for that matter if he was going all out he wouldn't be thinking so much,, peter always undersells himself, he's a pretty funny guy, he could web toss any of these guys and laugh while they fall down.
They are not as supple in movement, and they aren't touching him high on that walll regardless, so it makes sense that he would have to open himself up to get hit, therefore, showinng he has the priority in these matches, so theres no fallacy there, there was nothing wrong in the fundamentals in what I said. Period.sly

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Hey try this one, how long was wolverine stunned after that, and for that matter if he was going all out he wouldn't be thinking so much,, peter always undersells himself, he's a pretty funny guy, he could web toss any of these guys and laugh while they fall down.
They are not as supple in movement, and they aren't touching him high on that walll regardless, so it makes sense that he would have to open himself up to get hit, therefore, showinng he has the priority in these matches, so theres no fallacy there, there was nothing wrong in the fundamentals in what I said. Period.sly
Slothful induction and fallacy of exclusion.

Explain my fallacy and stop being lazy.