Wanderer259
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Originally posted by Whobdamandog
I don't think you or others understand how precognition is defined. Let me give you the definition so that we can clarify this.Definition taken from dictionary.com
Knowledge of something in advance of its occurrence, especially by extrasensory perception; clairvoyance.
SM uses an "extrasensory perception" that allows him to get "knowledge" of danger before it occurs. This makes it precognition. It works in accordance with his superhuman reflexes, agility, and speed, making him a difficult opponent to hit, particulary for those who are slower than himself.
Eh, like I said, it technically stretches the definition of precognition. The danger has already manifested before his Spider-Sense has picked up on it - there is no magical feeling that Spidey gets before Cap throws a punch. His Spider-Sense doesn't predict danger, it reacts to it. The only thing it predicts is the timing of the strike being attempted on Spidey. Peter cannot stand there, look at Captain America, and suddenly realize, "Hey, he's about to punch me." It doesn't work like that. Instead, Peter will stand there, see Cap throw a punch at him, and allegedly .003 seconds (still the only number I've found) before Cap's fist connects with his face, his Spider-Sense will go off. Due to Spidey's reflexes, that's usually enough of a warning. It may seem like true precog if he's being attacked from behind and then suddenly dodges - he didn't see it, but his Spider-Sense said he'd be hit in the back in .003 seconds if he didn't move now.
Originally posted by Whobedamandog
Obviously he wasn't going for the kill in this match up, seeing as how it was a TRAINING SESSION. His cockiness was the major factor that caused him to get hit, not his anger. If he had really been angry at Wolverine, he could've completely webbed him up with little effort.
I think you completely missed my point. Spider-Man has lunged at Wolverine due to his cockiness according to you, but like I said, it doesn't look as if Spidey has lunged at all. His body is sideways, his movement is in a sideways fashion, yet Logan's is forward with his body subtly curved to the left, his left arm extended to catch Spidey as he moves to the side. He dodged in one direction, but Logan was able to follow-up and tag him.
Originally posted by Whobedamandog
You're kind of missing the point with the whole strength issue. If his musclature and skeletal structure is dense enough to support 50 tons, what the heck would a shield, punch or billy club thrown by a peak human do to him even if it hit him? Answer: very little. I'm sure certain parts of his body are more vulnerable than others, however, the Trio would not be able to come up close enough to take advantage of these vulnerabilities.
Except that he's constantly shown to be vulnerable to these types of attacks in history.
Originally posted by Whobedamangdog
Wolverine has proven that when in a "bloodlusted" mode, he usually becomes engulfed with an animalistic rage, and although he fights savagely when in this state, he'd be difficult to contain or command. He'd probably be more of a liablity as opposed to being an asset to the Trio. With absence of moral code, Cap and DD would care little for each others welfare and wouldn't be doing much to assist one another if one of them became injured/incapacitated during the battle.
True.
Originally posted by Whobedamandog
But it did..😄
That's not valid and you know it. 😛 If it were, though, then Wolverine beating Spider-Man isn't very far-fetched at all. 😉