Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Started by jinzin244 pages

This is Bullshit, actually the fact that spider-man idolizes the cap means a great deal in a fight, If you ever had to fight someone you looked up to since you where a kid I think you would find this to be quite true, and the fact that these said things have happened in a previous comic does mean something as well. Like cap said you guys just ignore the facts and accomplishments ofr the other heroes while you puch spidey to a ridiculous level. Spiderman beat firelord coincidently and with a symbiote which inhances all of his powers speed and raw strength to far far far far far superior levels than his normal status.
You are completely contrdicting yourself strawnilla, if we are to ignore all the accomplishments and say that just cause a comic book occurance happened doesn't make it so, than I say this **** Iron man 2020. According to your logic iron man flies up into the stratosphere and reigns lazers and missles upon spiderman till he doesn't exist anymore. But the fact is just because something was written in a comic DOES MAKE IT SO, it may not make it a solid fact, but at least it's a plausibility. Spiderman would lose this plain and simple, I mean the cap took down namor with friggin pressure points. And despite what people may think they know about wolverine's character he rarely goes all out either, when he does go all out people die.
SPIDERMAN LOSES get over it and let it go.

If saying Spiderman's powers alone, then he stands a very good chance against the threesome, but we're talking about Spiderman's powers and Peter Parker's personality, who despite all his apple pie-ness with his Aunt May and others, should be pumping himself with Prozac or other anti-depressants.

It's not always valid to compare switch over villains of one to another as they are usually matched based on the character's abilities. Spiderman could take on a Red Skull or a Kingpin physically, but there belies more story than just taking the head honcho out of picture directly and both corresponding heroes usually fight the mess the lay out and on the conclusion then fight the main villain. Otherwise, we could say any of three against Chameleon.

Spiderman's bouts against numerous groups have been impressive, but you must acknowledge also that it wasn't just flawless wins as he's been humiliated by them too before he succeeded in the finale (he was defeated by the Deadly Foes rather swiftly on the first run). Maybe the three on their own couldn't handle such a circumstance, but they are very suited against one-on-one main villains anyway and that doesn't discount their capabilities on one person, Spiderman.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
But Captain America Has a Shield!!!..... 😆 😆 (Joke)

Oops, I forgot about the shield... OK that's, I'm convinced, Spider-Man is screwed 😉

Originally posted by radioboy121
It's not always valid to compare switch over villains of one to another as they are usually matched based on the character's abilities.

True, I hear what you're saying, but we can't ignore it either, can we ?
Spiderman's bouts against numerous groups have been impressive, but you must acknowledge also that it wasn't just flawless wins as he's been humiliated by them too before he succeeded in the finale.

For the record : Spider-Man has lost many battles. Believe it or not, that's why I like him, he's not written to win every fight. He sometimes loses from third rate villains (only to kick their ass on the second fight lol).

But that's why I like him. On a good day, he can give the Hulk serious trouble (nothing Hulk can't handle, mind you - I think...), on other days, he fights like an amateur.

But in this thread every character uses all of their abilities, and when we look at those, Spider-Man wins. The three can only win if they use their brains and try to corner Spider-Man. In that case, Spider-Man loses.

But Spider-Man is sooo unpredictable, cornering him will be a hell of a job... and it's not like he's gonna let it happen.

Originally posted by jinzin
Spiderman beat firelord coincidently and with a symbiote which inhances all of his powers speed and raw strength to far far far far far superior levels than his normal status.

Thanks for proving you know nothing at all about Spider-Man.

Augmenting all of his powers lol...

Originally posted by radioboy121
If saying Spiderman's powers alone, then he stands a very good chance against the threesome, but we're talking about Spiderman's powers and Peter Parker's personality, who despite all his apple pie-ness with his Aunt May and others, should be pumping himself with Prozac or other anti-depressants.

It's not always valid to compare switch over villains of one to another as they are usually matched based on the character's abilities. Spiderman could take on a Red Skull or a Kingpin physically, but there belies more story than just taking the head honcho out of picture directly and both corresponding heroes usually fight the mess the lay out and on the conclusion then fight the main villain. Otherwise, we could say any of three against Chameleon.

Spiderman's bouts against numerous groups have been impressive, but you must acknowledge also that it wasn't just flawless wins as he's been humiliated by them too before he succeeded in the finale (he was defeated by the Deadly Foes rather swiftly on the first run). Maybe the three on their own couldn't handle such a circumstance, but they are very suited against one-on-one main villains anyway and that doesn't discount their capabilities on one person, Spiderman.

Well put..but I still believe that an enraged/going for the kill Spidey could pull this off...more often than not..as Who_kid mentioned... Spidey's one of those characters who fights better when faced with near insurmountable odds...

Originally posted by whobdamandog
This is coming from a guy who's in love with a comic book character..

Actually, I'm in love with my girlfriend. I idolize the IDEAL that is Captain America.

This is called a contradiction...lol


...But the fact is just because something was written in a comic DOES MAKE IT SO...

...it may not make it a solid fact, but at least it's a plausibility....

To all the Cap/Wolvie/DD supporters..

..if you guys are going to accuse people about using poor grammar/contradictions/and the like......make sure you don't do these SAME THINGS in your posts... 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by who?-kid

But in this thread every character uses all of their abilities... The three can only win if they use their brains and try to corner Spider-Man. In that case, Spider-Man loses.
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THAT'S WHAT I SAID!!!

You remember... Spidey's ego; DD getting him to follow him inside; Cap's brilliant strategy of "controlling the battlefield"; Wolverine boxing him in and getting up close... Remember?

Jeez, you guys really DON'T read anything but Spider-Man!

Originally posted by whobdamandog
..if you guys are going to accuse people about using poor grammar/contradictions/and the like......make sure you don't do these SAME THINGS in your posts...

This is getting scary, man. Now you're actually trying to start stuff with other guys based on discussions you and I have had. This freakish infatuation you have with me is sick. I told you in my earlier post...

I already HAVE a girlfriend. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Capt.JK
This is getting scary, man. Now you're actually trying to start stuff with other guys based on discussions you and I have had. This freakish infatuation you have with me is sick. I told you in my earlier post...

I already HAVE a girlfriend. 😮‍💨

YEAH I KNOW HIS NAME IS CAPTAIN AMERICA... 😆 😆 😆

don't take offense cap its called trash talk..no big deal dude...

Originally posted by Capt.JK
THAT'S WHAT I SAID!!!

You remember... Spidey's ego; DD getting him to follow him inside; Cap's brilliant strategy of "controlling the battlefield"; Wolverine boxing him in and getting up close... Remember?

Jeez, you guys really DON'T read anything but Spider-Man!


Stop trying to act like you know something about the character. Spider-Man has NO ego, he always doubts himself and has low self esteem.

Sooo unlike Captain America...

Cap will eat spidey alone . Spidey could swing all he wants but caps shield will rock spideys world . His Spidey sense cant save him because when it goes off he cant dodge all 3 fighters and dare devil could probaly read his moves . Oh yeah wolverine just sits down and smokes a cig because Cap and dare devil will retire spidey. 1 on 1 spidey beats maybe dare dev.. na he to skilled. Spiderman is a great character for his stories but sorry spidey your just out classed

Originally posted by whobdamandog
YEAH I KNOW HIS NAME IS CAPTAIN AMERICA... 😆 😆 😆

Good one.

Spidey still loses, though. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by who?-kid
True, I hear what you're saying, but we can't ignore it either, can we ?

Sure you can accept a villain comparison to a certain degree, but this cannot be used to strongly justify one over another. Spiderman's sense can save him from many jams, but if he was pitted against someone like Omega Red who's death aura can be handled by Wolverine but not him, or Electro against Wolverine (who's tactics are more short-range), then it just confuses the concept of a character's main strengths.

But that's why I like him. On a good day, he can give the Hulk serious trouble (nothing Hulk can't handle, mind you - I think...), on other days, he fights like an amateur.

True. This happens to most characters.

But in this thread every character uses all of their abilities, and when we look at those, Spider-Man wins. The three can only win if they use their brains and try to corner Spider-Man. In that case, Spider-Man loses.

But Spider-Man is sooo unpredictable, cornering him will be a hell of a job... and it's not like he's gonna let it happen.

He still loses. Firelord battle: it was circumstantial where Firelord's repetoire was dangerous that it could do huge damage (as it did) to the city and he's not going to hit that mood, unless given strong reason to and the three will not go recking havok. If you say he has to be pissed to fight, then that admits that he's not capable normally to handle the threesome. Captain America and Wolverine have worked a number of times before and adding Daredevil will not create a liability, so they're not going to run in head on without some form of strategy.

Stop trying to act like you know something about the character. Spider-Man has NO ego, he always doubts himself and has low self esteem.

Sooo unlike Captain America...

Well, he does have an ego, but I don't think it will come to play here. I cannot remember the opponent and can only visualize it in my head, but as Cosmic Spiderman, I remember him taking down the Dragon and tossing his camera to an anonymous boy to take his picture while he stands on the creature. Spiderman always wanted to be appreciated.

Originally posted by radioboy121
I cannot remember the opponent and can only visualize it in my head, but as Cosmic Spiderman, I remember him taking down the Dragon and tossing his camera to an anonymous boy to take his picture while he stands on the creature. Spiderman always wanted to be appreciated.

Yes, true, and you know why he always wants to be appreciated ? Because he has very low self esteem en virtually no ego - though he can hide it very well.

Originally posted by radioboy121
He still loses. Firelord battle: it was circumstantial where Firelord's repetoire was dangerous that it could do huge damage (as it did) to the city and he's not going to hit that mood, unless given strong reason to and the three will not go recking havok. If you say he has to be pissed to fight, then that admits that he's not capable normally to handle the threesome.

I never said Spider-Man has to be real angry to defeat a powerhouse, but it helps of course. But against DD, Wolverine and that other guy whose name slipped my mind, he won't need to go berserk and stuff.

Yeah he won't really have to be angry to take these guys down...just be motivated and have a plan...I mean with his physical superiority/abilities to the trio and overall experience...he could definately do it...

Originally posted by who?-kid
I never said Spider-Man has to be real angry to defeat a powerhouse, but it helps of course. But against DD, Wolverine and that other guy whose name slipped my mind, he won't need to go berserk and stuff.

My mention of his ego has nothing to do with his lack of self esteem. I was talking about his youth, his brash cockiness, which is very much a part of Spider-Man and pretty much every other teenager who has ever lived. His jokes and trash-talking cover his low self esteem to a degree, but they also point out the fact that he truly believes his Spider-powers won't fail him. Unfortunately, this works against him in a battle with 3 older and far more worldly-experienced combatants.

It's also kind of funny how you completely tried to flip around and avoid the fact that you stated the EXACT same scenario for Spidey's defeat as I had already pointed out. And then, you came up in true 'whobdamandogoneIreallythinkmyjokesarefunny' disciple style and tried to insult Cap. All of this to divert attention away from the fact that your statement about how Spider-Man would be defeated was the exact same scenario that I came up with earlier. Spidey himself couldn't have flipped and squirmed as well as you just did! (But you STILL got hit.)

Spider-Man loses. Check the poll.