Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Originally posted by Capt.JK
My mention of his ego has nothing to do with his lack of self esteem. I was talking about his youth, his brash cockiness, which is very much a part of Spider-Man and pretty much every other teenager who has ever lived. His jokes and trash-talking cover his low self esteem to a degree, but they also point out the fact that he truly believes his Spider-powers won't fail him. Unfortunately, this works against him in a battle with 3 older and far more worldly-experienced combatants.

..A wise man once said...

"Age doesn't always bring wisdom..sometimes it comes alone..."

This Captain..is the antithesis to your arguments...and your logic my friend...

The fact that someone's worldly..doesn't necessarily mean they have what it takes to win...Spider-Man, although not as old as the trio, has shown just as much maturity, just as much experience, and just as much willpower when dealing with overwhelming situations as Wolverine/DD/Cap....maybe even more...

From sacraficing his own life for others, without receiving any personal gain..to understanding the responsability that comes with "great power", Spidey exemplifies what it means to be a mature adult...the fact that you negate his obvious feats and acheivements based on his youth...is a sign of immaturity...

It's also kind of funny how you completely tried to flip around and avoid the fact that you stated the EXACT same scenario for Spidey's defeat as I had already pointed out. And then, you came up in true 'whobdamandogoneIreallythinkmyjokesarefunny' disciple style and tried to insult Cap.

lol..well..Captain I don't think anyone is trying to insult Cap my man..honostly though...your arguements are so silly it's hard not to make fun of them...lol

...Arguing with you is like arguing with a paraplegic who criticizes my walking ability...it's hard not to poke fun....... 😆 😆 😆

All of this to divert attention away from the fact that your statement about how Spider-Man would be defeated was the exact same scenario that I came up with earlier. Spidey himself couldn't have flipped and squirmed as well as you just did! (But you STILL got hit.)

JK...there was no logic to your scenario..most of what you wrote didn't make any sense my man.....it was just a few really looong sentences...😆 😆 😆

Spider-Man loses. Check the poll.

Who cares..lol...this ain't the presidential election...besides..check the thread...who should really be laughing...a dude who admits his "love" of a fictional "male" comic book character....or a couple of punks who debate with him about said character..lol...if you "understood" this scenario we've put ourselves in ....you'd probably be laughing/cracking jokes too... 😆 😆 😆

the trio

Spider Man Kick's Wolvies Arch Enemy's arse in this issue...

Whoops the Red Skull and a double of Cap A and himself in this issue...

Originally posted by whobdamandog
[BSpider-Man, although not as old as the trio, has shown just as much maturity, just as much experience, and just as much willpower when dealing with overwhelming situations as Wolverine/DD/Cap....maybe even more...
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First off, this statement is so stupid I can barely see to type an answer I'm laughing so hard. Wolverine has had his ENTIRE life erased and replaced so many times, he doesn't even know what's true and what isn't anymore. Dare Devil is BLIND!!! Captain America woke up after being frozen for decades to discover that EVERYTHING and EVERYONE he ever knew is either dead or an old man. His last memory is of his partner and best friend being BLOWN UP!!! Spider-Man came home from a field trip with a nasty bug bite, and then discovered he had super powers, at the age of 15. Uhh... yeah.

You know, this thread has just about reached the point of pointlessness. You Spidey-fanboys have yet to come up with a plausible way of defeating these 3 ICONS of the MV. You have gone to great lengths to tell us about how great you think Spider-Man is, but you don't really come up with BELIEVABLE ways that he could possibly beat Captain America, Wolverine and Dare Devil all at the SAME TIME. You have insulted the 3 characters, and when that didn't work, you insulted their fans. When THAT didn't work, you insulted their fans based on arguments you had with OTHER fans. You people are pathetic.

EVERY scenario I posted, and several others from "my team", all show an absolutely plausible way for these 3 heroes to defeat your hero; you just don't want to accept it. Spider-Man is NOT Thor. Spider-Man is NOT Silver Surfer or Thanos or Adam Warlock... He's just Spider-Man. Captain America, Wolverine, and Dare Devil would KICK HIS ASS, and no amount of whining or insulting on your part is going to change the poll or anyone's opinion who has ever read anything BESIDES Spider-Man.

Spidey loses. So do you. I'm done.

No truer words have ever been spoken cap....
and about the symbiote thing, I have no knowledge of spidey? yeah I guess that's why I read just about every one of his comics at some point in my lifeup until a few years ago huh? obviously you know jack**** about symbiotes.

Originally posted by jinzin
and about the symbiote thing, I have no knowledge of spidey?

Eddy Brock yes. Spider-Man/Peter Parker no. I'm not even going to argue about such an obvious fact.

If you think you know it better, prove it. Until then, Spider-Man beat Firelord with his fists, and not with the symbiote - was he even wearing the symbiote suit during that fight ? Not that it matters, mind you...

I'm not going to comment anymore on the fight as I already said my opinion in the battle (win for trio), but yes the symbiote was basically more or less just a replacement for Spiderman's destroyed costume. As he was already enhanced, there was no need for the symbiote to add on extra abilities (strength-wise). I think the only extra abilities with the symbiote was built in web shooting capabilities (not a wristband device) and near instanteous costume changing.

He did sport a similar black costume after the symbiote, but it was just a normal costume. I cannot remember whether he was donning the symbiote version or not during the Firelord encounter.

i know it's become a running joke about you Capt.JK, but are you SURE you're not in love with Captain America? you do seem to have an obsession with the guy

just an observation

Originally posted by Capt.JK
First off, this statement is so stupid I can barely see to type an answer I'm laughing so hard. Wolverine has had his ENTIRE life erased and replaced so many times, he doesn't even know what's true and what isn't anymore.

Dare Devil is BLIND!!!

Captain America woke up after being frozen for decades to discover that EVERYTHING and EVERYONE he ever knew is either dead or an old man. His last memory is of his partner and best friend being BLOWN UP!!! Spider-Man came home from a field trip with a nasty bug bite, and then discovered he had super powers, at the age of 15.

You Spidey-fanboys have yet to come up with a plausible way of defeating these 3 ICONS of the MV.

Second, I’m a bit confused : how come somebody like you with Captain America in his pic, an animation of Cap in his post, in his name, well everywhere is always the first to call everybody who disagrees a “fanboy” ?

I hope you realize you’re making an ass of yourself. Ever heard of the saying with pot and kettle in it ?

You have insulted the 3 characters, and when that didn't work, you insulted their fans.

EVERY scenario I posted, and several others from "my team", all show an absolutely plausible way for these 3 heroes to defeat your hero; you just don't want to accept it

Originally posted by who?-kid
Peter Parker already was fighting for his life and emotionally going through hell before Steve Rogers decide to join the army (only to get rejected because he was a wuss).

Er... Peter was born right around the beginning of the Cold War as his parents were agents and Captain America was long frozen by then. Captain America definitely predates Peter's adventures as Spiderman. Also, Captain America before his serum was not a wuss. He was merely physically unfit.

Originally posted by radioboy121
Er... Peter was born right around the beginning of the Cold War as his parents were agents and Captain America was long frozen by then. Captain America definitely predates Peter's adventures as Spiderman. Also, Captain America before his serum was not a wuss. He was merely physically unfit.

He probably meant that Spidey was 15 when he started crimefighting.

Captain America was about 20.

Yup, that's exactly what I meant, thanks for clearing that up.

You tell me i have no knowledge of spider-man and you don't even know he had his symbiotic costume during his firelord encounter, you're retarded. There may be no reason for the symbiote to inhance his abilities but it does it non the less, That's why the venom hulk incarnate in the what if universe was so ungodly powerful, that's what a symbiote does, it inhances it's hosts strength, agility, and healing abilities exponentially and until you find some solid proof otherwise than don't tell me about how muh I do or don't know. Why did spiderman kick rhino's ass sooooo easily in a head on fist fight after getting the costume? it sure as hell wasn't cause he was pumped up on viagra that's for sure.

Anyways, this is ridiculous and besides the point , but back to the point, Spider-man gets his ass handed to him, if not killed.

Originally posted by jinzin
There may be no reason for the symbiote to inhance his abilities but it does it non the less

Prove it. You can't.

Btw, I'm getting tired of correcting your mistakes. The black suit did not make Spider-Man stronger. Fact. Think otherwise ? Fine. Prove it.

Prove that it don't.

By the way, during the Firelord fight, Spider-Man did NOT wear his symbiote. It's not because it's black, that it must be the symbiote suit.

****ing hell i'll go back and read the damn comic tonight, but that doesn't have anything to do with the symbiote point OR the fight, BTW spidey loses.

Originally posted by Capt.JK
[B]First off, this statement is so stupid I can barely see to type an answer I'm laughing so hard. Wolverine has had his ENTIRE life erased and replaced so many times, he doesn't even know what's true and what isn't anymore. Dare Devil is BLIND!!! Captain America woke up after being frozen for decades to discover that EVERYTHING and EVERYONE he ever knew is either dead or an old man. His last memory is of his partner and best friend being BLOWN UP!!! Spider-Man came home from a field trip with a nasty bug bite, and then discovered he had super powers, at the age of 15. Uhh... yeah.
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lol...Well your right about Spider bite... but you left out some other pertinent history/experiences about the character.....

Watched his Uncle die, an event he himself could of prevented...
Ridiculed and teased as a child....
Had his parents die at a young age....
Had one of his girlfriends being killed....
Witnessed the death of his best friends father, as well as his best friend...
Continually faces rejection and public scrutiny from the very city he protects....

But I think the most important thing about the character...is the fact that he doesn't use his powers for personal glory...he doesn't receive the constant admiration from the people he protects, nor does he have the security of working with a team..the things he values most are his family/friends..as well as the welfare of the people he protects...that says something about his character/maturity/experience..in my humble opinion...

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You know, this thread has just about reached the point of pointlessness. You Spidey-fanboys have yet to come up with a plausible way of defeating these 3 ICONS of the MV. You have gone to great lengths to tell us about how great you think Spider-Man is, but you don't really come up with BELIEVABLE ways that he could possibly beat Captain America, Wolverine and Dare Devil all at the SAME TIME. You have insulted the 3 characters, and when that didn't work, you insulted their fans. When THAT didn't work, you insulted their fans based on arguments you had with OTHER fans. You people are pathetic.

Let me call this straight..you call

Avoiding multiple attacks from the trio with his spider sense, speed, reflexes...(FYI Spidey does this all the time you know..he's faced multiple foes on much greater strength/power/skill levels than Cap/DD/Wolvie...pick up on of his books...lol)

Sticking to a buildings...(which he also does all the time)

Shooting webs at his attackers...(same thing...you see the pattern)

not plausable?...riiiiight....🙄 😆 😆

EVERY scenario I posted, and several others from "my team", all show an absolutely plausible way for these 3 heroes to defeat your hero; you just don't want to accept it.

let me clarify things with your "scenario"(you just had one..) It was plausible...yes...logical..no....

For example...why in the world would SM...going up against 3 trained people...attack them head on...that just doesn't make sense....especially with his abilities...

logically he would attack from a distance...using a combination of speed/agility/webshooters...which he is fully capable of and does all the time when facing multiple opponents...I mean that's just common sense dude...

Spider-Man is NOT Thor. Spider-Man is NOT Silver Surfer or Thanos or Adam Warlock...

True but he's given two of those characters difficult times based on his abilities...(Silver Surfer & Thor) which is more than can be said about Cap/Wolvie/DD...those three ain't going to do much against any listed above

Cap got swatted away by Thanos as if he were a mere fly in the Infinity Gauntlet Saga...as did Wolvie....Spidey on the other hand...at least got a kick in..which actually knocked Thanos back...

He's just Spider-Man. Captain America, Wolverine, and Dare Devil would KICK HIS ASS, and no amount of whining or insulting on your part is going to change the poll or anyone's opinion who has ever read anything BESIDES Spider-Man.

Spidey loses. So do you. I'm done.

Yes he is Spider Man...but that's saying a lot..he's more of an Icon than Cap/DD/Wolvie put together...not because of his awe-factor..his abilities, ferocity/bloodlust, or commanding presence...but because he's just a normal guy.....that people can relate too...

Popular oppinion doesn't always represent the truth...or represent the correct way of thinking...if that were the case...then Bush/Hitler/Stalin would have never been in power....

Dammmb...messed up the html tags...read in between "Quote" in the first box..lol